Youtube, Indoctrinate U.

[amicus]

Thanks to a helpful poster that may wish to remain anonymous, I am able to provide a means to view a Documentary Channel special that I found most interesting.

Some of you may have children in college or about to be or even younger and this documentary may change your mind or cause you to rethink where and when you send your child for higher education.

This documentary film illustrates the extreme left wing, social democrat agenda that dictates the content of education in the Arts and utter political control on campus. Even if you support this political philosophy, you might enjoy seeing to what extent you have been successful on campus.

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This is in ten parts, I followed the first one and it indeed led to part one of the documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuQQcXKLWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PMTrH4XuoI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7RSiD-qB9U&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0it5JRleOyU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAud5sfotcs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KywZkYmB0lE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEScaM9_8A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PED4Ht05w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5D-3-js88&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNfnOyGa6i4&feature=related

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I think you will find the part about searching for the, "Men's Resource Center", amusing.

Amicus

 

[Dragonlipz]

Come mothers and fathers
throughout the whole land
and don't criticize what you can't understand
your sons and your daughters
are beyond your command
and the times
they are a'changing

Good advice to any parent of a college age child......get with with it dude

 

[JackLuis]

Maybe it is a good thing that so few Americans get a college education?
It allows them to retain their individualism.

 

[JamesSD]

Ok, I'll bite, and "blog" my thoughts.

First Prof: He's from a California Community College. That's a REALLY dumb policy for science classes.

Ok, so conservatives are now nostalgic for the era of 60s student protests. Huh?

Again, I'm further confused, as the documentary is at once arguing for the guy at Michigan's right to speak, but opposed to the student right to protest?

Ok, yep, Black people are not homogenous. However, Black people in the U.S. are disproportionately poor. This is, however, pointing out that it's not about race, it's about class/money. Rich black kids don't deserve special treatment, but poor kids do.

On to part II!
Bored... Although, I do have to say the MSU professor who took class time away to criticize a student opinion piece is a dick.

Ok, wow, the Central Conn thing is pretty bad. I would not want to send my future child there.

The art school guy interview seems oddly cut. But again, he's a professor at an ART COLLEGE. I'm not shocked that the former UC Berkley professor has a more articulate argument than the Art college teacher.

Ok, no Central Conn or Massachusettes Art School. Good.

The part about racial separatism was really shallow. Huge campuses tend to have many, many graduation ceremonies, none of which is central. Some student groups organize their own ceremonies. Such things existing is about student choice and free speech, which the documentary claims to support.

Ok, Part III. 17 minutes in and I'm already ready to give up.
Oooh, MLK!
Wow, I hate this blonde girl.

Ok, waiting to hear what the Cal Poly administration did... Ok, Cal Poly sucks, although this dude is kind of a choad. The filmmaker is also kind of getting on my nerves.

Part IV
Wow, this guy from the office of the President is good! He's polite, diplomatic, but firm. PWND

Ok, bored with the UT story

Part V
Ah, the problem of free speech vs. Harrassment. It's a tricky issue. There's some things people can't and shouldn't be able to say. The KKK can't burn crosses on a college campus. But where's the line? It's a tough issue.

The WVU thing about "lover" or "partner" is hilarious! Did they not know that gay men use the term "boyfriend"?

"Passion" is a terrible, terrible film. I want to see "Fucking for Jesus!"

The Yale administration was uninterested in paper thefts. My own college has had issues with a controversial liberal paper being stolen. Cry me a river, and distribute by hand like big boys. But yeah, a lot of Berkeley far liberals are awful people.

Part VI
This is actually getting fun. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Ok, Cal Poly does clearly suck. I feel sympathetic for the Psychology prof.

Political ideaology is formulated during the college years. Generally, republicans just don't want to be social science professors. Going to grad school in social science is financially destructive. Grad students lean VERY heavily to the left. You could joke that conservatives get JDs and MBAs and liberals get PhDs (MDs are fairly moderate, perhaps slightly liberal). This is true, to a lesser extent, in the hard sciences.

Yellow bow tie, blue striped shirt. Could he BE any more straight?

Don't major in social sciences.

Part 7:
Stanford is a private university. Obviously the free market wants liberal social profressors.

This dude REALLY needs to call ahead. I'm glad she has a busy schedule.

Students are lazy.

I like this old dude with the beard! But not the Duke professor, he sucks.

Part 8
UC Berkeley Women's Center.... eep, that's scary for a white dude.

Haha, that Title IX guy is hilarious!

There actually is a trend towards Men's studies and men's centers, although it's a gradual process.

Part 9
May as well finish this I guess...
Wow, this Foothill stuff is boring.

Students have the right to protest military recruiters, just as the military has a right to recruit on publicly funded campuses. Again, refer to part 1 about student protest. This documentary needs to decide if it wants more or less student protest.

Why would military recruiters visit UC Santa Cruz? That's like selling steaks to vegetarians.

Damn those liberals at... Yale?

Arab studies: You know, the whole thing we were lacking expertise in when the war in Afghanistan? We didn't have enough translators, and were woefully ignorant of the region.

Part X... the final part. This has been a long 85 minutes.


The interesting thing is, I agree with the most central thesis of this, that the free speech policy needs to be brought back. Allow students to protest things. Allow counter-protests to protest them. Keep it non-violent, and keep the classrooms running. Keep overt politics out of the hard sciences. Allow both left and right wing groups to invite controversial speakers, but don't come running for help when there's a backlash.

Conservatives, we're waiting for your revolution. Can the Party of No abandon the Bible Thumpers, return to its roots, and become the party of small government and rational thought? Will it accept scientific evidence, even when it goes against the Bible or might make a few corporations slightly less profitable? Or is it going to stick to its guns, and wither?

 

[Leto Degeneres]

Ok, I'll bite, and "blog" my thoughts.
...

Oh, man! I wasn't going to look in this forum tonight, much less post.

But this.......is THE MOST entertaining film review I've seen in my life! I started cracking up at line 3 and didn't stop until until your sig. If that's the way you "blog", James, say where. I want to go look.

 

[amicus]

JamesSD...you take notes during a program as I do....perhaps I should try the youtube method, when I watched it, was a two hour program and my notes were sketchy and a bit different than yours.

Even so, I am of a different generation, before the 60's when campus politics became notorious; we used to attend college for higher learning, not politics as usual.

I am, however, appreciative that you took the time to both view and comment, perhaps others will find it more enlightening than you.

Amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Conservatives, we're waiting for your revolution. Can the Party of No abandon the Bible Thumpers, return to its roots, and become the party of small government and rational thought? Will it accept scientific evidence, even when it goes against the Bible or might make a few corporations slightly less profitable? Or is it going to stick to its guns, and wither? James SD

Conservatism isnt a revolution, it's the bottomline for every civilization and culture that endures. The alternative is to reinvent the wheel every day of your life or surrender to anarchic chaos where 6 Billion people do their own thang. Conservatives want to preserve and conserve what's best and what works.

God and Nature are conservatives because their laws never deviate or change. Spring follows winter as night follows day. What came with the big bang is with us today. And there is no appeal.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

Time will cure academia.

For now, academia is where you go to get your ticket for a shot at the American Dream. But the bullshit academia replaces learning with forces industry out of America, and a reckoning will come when enough people are aware they were sold a bag of crap that's a ticket to no where. We're almost there.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

JamesSD...you take notes during a program as I do....

Okay, let's compare Ami's notes to James'... THAT should be interesting reading!

 

[Pure]

old stuff

i watched 1 and 8 and 9

opposition to military recruitment on campus dates back 40 years. the right wing is still trying to whip up concern for 'traitors' who have to nerve to oppose any current war.

the question of guidelines and quotas for minority students, contrary to ami, is not quite so clear cut and lately there may be less case. OTOH we have such anomalies as Clarence Thomas--admired by ami-- as a Black person on the Supreme Ct opposing affirmative action. yet Thomans got into Yale School under affirmative action.


i think ami would be far happier with bob jone university and liberty university, where true conservative values are instilled.

http://www.liberty.edu/

http://www.bju.edu/welcome/who-we-are/



the question of tolerance is legitimate, but as we all know, ami does not actually subscribe to it; he's called for socialists to be shot.

this is just what the Puritans did; oppose oppression, but then do it. ami merely wants the right wing to control faculties; you will find he never has opposed a situation where a 'liberal' is fired by a conservative admin. just as you will never find him opposing the newly asserted power of the President to arrest someone and imprison him without trial, indefinitely.

it's of course hightly ironic and amusing that rules universities set up to prevent persecution are now be used by amicus types who've written term papers based on Ann Coulter and complain when they get bad grades. then they go to the diversity office and say 'convervatives are being persecuted.'

ami wants us to attend to the 'persecution' of xians and randians in the US. the fact that xians constitute almost all of the US Congress and hold the Presidency and form the whole cabinet doesn't register with amicus. the presence of one muslin in the House, does. proves the muslims are taking over.

 

[Verdad]

Waves—no need for anonymity; I sent the links to Ami, though I haven't seen the film yet. It's good to hear what people from all sides think of it.

 

[amicus]

Waves—no need for anonymity; I sent the links to Ami, though I haven't seen the film yet. It's good to hear what people from all sides think of it.

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Thank you, Verdad, I did not wish to subject you to, 'guilt by association', often applied to anyone even remotely in agreement with yours truly.

My intent is posting those links and the previous post I did describing the series, is to make a comparison between Religious schools, that openly indoctrinate their students in Christianity, or of late, Islam, and a modern liberal arts education which indoctrinates students in a social philosophy of a political nature than can be described as intrinsic Marxism or as some watered down derivative that ranges from socialism to social democracy to left wing liberal, to secular humanist and on and on and on, none of which have a place on a public campus as a litmus test to achievement and graduation.

Do what you will, use it as a basis for another diatribe, such as Pure did, or find some amusement and partial agreement, as did JamesSD, or be astonished, considering the usual content of the Documentary Channel, that such a film was ever aired in the first place.

I found it informative and educational and a confirmation of that which I already knew.

Thanks...

Amicus

 

[Pure]

incidents

the films cobble together dozens of incidents over the years, without digging into the facts. a farrago of complaints from a dozen profs and students from over a period of several years, with little indication as to sequenceing

in the last video clip, the 'most objectionable' act--according to the narrator-- was at a small college in Mass, where one dept chairman asked his sec to take down an american flag.

this was widely reported in the right wing press in 2001 [[see urls]], to show that the american haters and sympathizers-with-9-11-attackers were on the ascendant in the universities. apparently a half dozen other incidents occured in the thousands of colleges and universities; some were likely unofficial acts and the most likely interpretation, rather than treason, was perhaps that there was a desire NOT to make muslim foreign students feel treated as possible enemies.

http://www.academia.org/campus_reports/2001/nov_2001_1.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35562,00.html

the ability of amicus to churn out a dozen innuendos, falsehoods and accusations--all without references-- in a single posting is legendary, and unfortunatley teams of fact checkers are not available. i've simply chosen one 'fact' at random.

 

[amicus]

One is required to inquire as to the sanity of one who constantly ignores and rejects reality.

Included in the piece are the facts that 70, 80, 90 percent of all college faculty members are left wing liberals who vote Democrat every time. Those who are, 'tenured', guaranteed a job for life, are 95 percent liberal left wing professors and hold almost all the 'Department Chairmanships'.

That the American University scene is a hotbed of left wing liberal propaganda is no longer a question but a fact.

Step on a stage at any college rally and say you are:

Pro Life...you are booed off the stage

Anti Gay Marriage, same.

Pro Capitalism, same

Anti Marxist/Socialist...same

Anti UN, World Court, World Government...same, booed off the stage.

Pro Christian...same

Anti Affirmative Action (special treatment for blacks)...same...

Pro Military....same

I could go on and list the entire mantra of the left...but why bother?
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Ask me how I know? I did a lecture tour and discovered it as fact and that was many years ago...Indoctrinate U. just confirmed what I already knew....as I said before.

Take the 85 minutes, view the film, draw your own conclusions, that is why I posted it, not so that some idiot could interpret it for you, make your own decision.

Amicus

 

[Pure]

bizaree comparison

ami// My intent is posting those links and the previous post I did describing the series, is to make a comparison between Religious schools, that openly indoctrinate their students in Christianity, or of late, Islam, and a modern liberal arts education which indoctrinates students in a social philosophy of a political nature than can be described as intrinsic Marxism or as some watered down derivative that ranges from socialism to social democracy to left wing liberal, to secular humanist and on and on and on, none of which have a place on a public campus as a litmus test to achievement and graduation.//

this bizarre comparison of indoctrination at US xian universities and "liberal" universities-- the other 95%-- should be considered.

Bob Jones University did not admit Blacks till 1970s, and banned interracial dating till the year 2000, after George W Bush's shameless appearand there drew fresh attention to the matter.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/marchweb-only/53.0.html


If you're gay, you don't even get into an evangelical place like Liberty [!] University, nor if you're an atheist.

The ivy league universities admit their share of oddly beliefed persons, be they Jesus freaks, or Randists, or even chastity advocates. Read the story of Ms Fredell at Harvard, at the end of this post.

Consider Ami's list, and its implications:

That the American University scene is a hotbed of left wing liberal propaganda is no longer a question but a fact.

Step on a stage at any college rally and say you are:

Pro Life...you are booed off the stage

Anti Gay Marriage, same.

Pro Capitalism, same[...]


Pro Christian...same

if these folks are, as occasionally happens [and i do not applaud], are "booed off stage" that means they were *on stage as invited speakers*. and they likely finished their talks in smaller venues.

by contrast, consider whether at BJU or Liberty Univeristy, or any University controlled by the unlettered Mr. Amicus would even invite any the following types of persons to speak on campus.

Pro choice,
Pro gay marriage,
Socialist,
Anti Xian

Ami holds forth at Literotica, in hundreds of threads: Imagine Ami's LIBERTY UNDER CAPITALISM website and its forum and consider how many socialist threads would be allowed, how many gays would be able to praise the lifestyle??

So folks, let's keep perspective, and not go by the shrieks from the 'right' about persecution. In-group phenomena happen at Harvard, yes (see below). If you wear your WWJD t-shirt (what would jesus do?), or your finger sports a "saving it for my husband" pledge ring from Daddy, you will get razzed. but these occasional unfortunate incidents are not intrinsic to liberal principles, the way that intolerance is intrinsic to ami's so called 'libertarian" ('family values') conservatism.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/m...1e16412b40e7&ei=5087 &oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Students of Virginity

By RANDALL PATTERSON
Published: March 30, 2008


There was a time when not having sex consumed a very small part of Janie Fredell’s life, but that, of course, was back in Colorado Springs. It seemed to Fredell that almost no one had sex in Colorado Springs. Her hometown was extremely conservative, and as a good Catholic girl, she was annoyed by all the fundamentalist Christians who would get in her face and demand, as she put it to me recently, “You have to think all of these things that we think.” They seemed not to know that she thought many of those things already. At her public high school, everyone, “literally everyone,” wore chastity rings, Fredell recalled, but she thought the practice ridiculous. Why was it necessary, she wondered, to signify you’re not doing something that nobody is doing?



And then Fredell arrived at Harvard. Sitting in a Cambridge restaurant not long ago, she told me that people back home called it “godless, liberal Harvard.” Some discouraged her from going, but Fredell went anyway, arriving in the fall of 2005. She wanted to study government, she said, maybe become a lawyer, and she knew that “people take you more seriously as a Harvard student.”

From the start, she told me, she was awed by the diversity of the place, by the intensity, by the constant buzz of ideas. There were so many different kinds of people at Harvard, most of them trying to change the world, and everyone trying to figure out what they thought of everyone else. “Harvard really puts pressure on you to define who you are,” Fredell said, and she loved everything about Harvard, except the sex.

Sex, as she put it, was not even “anything I’d ever thought about” when, as a freshman, she was educated in safe-sex practices. What she was told was the sort of thing found in a Harvard pamphlet called “Empowering You”: “put the condom on before the penis touches the vagina, mouth, or anus. . . . Use a new condom if you want to have sex again or if you want to have a different type of sex.”

Fredell began to understand she was in “a culture that says sex is totally O.K.” When a new boyfriend came to her, expressing desire, she managed to “stick to my guns,” she said, but there were “uncouth and socially inept” men, as she considered them, all around, and observing the rituals of her new classmates, Fredell couldn’t help being alarmed. “The hookup culture is so absolutely all-encompassing,” she said. “It’s shocking! It’s everywhere!”

She did nothing about it until her sophomore year. Then she began to read in The Harvard Crimson, the student newspaper, about a new student group on campus — a band of celibates, men and women, calling themselves True Love Revolution. They were pushing, for reasons entirely secular, the cause of premarital sexual abstinence, and Fredell, by this time, was utterly committed to abstinence.

She could hardly bear to see it ridiculed in The Crimson. An article about the group’s ice cream social appeared under the headline “Not Tonight, Honey, I Have a Brain Freeze.” A columnist who wrote about the group joked of getting “very, very aroused” just thinking about virgins and wondered if such people might be available for “dry humping.”

“It’s an odd thing to see one’s lifestyle essentially attacked in The Crimson,” Fredell said. She began to feel a need to stand up for her beliefs, and what she believed in more than anything at Harvard was the value of not having premarital sex. In an essay she wrote for The Crimson, she asserted that “virginity is extremely alluring,” though its “mysterious allure . . . is not rooted in an image of innocence and purity, but rather in the notion of strength.” As she told me later, “It takes a strong woman to be abstinent, and that’s the sort of woman I want to be.”

After the essay appeared a year ago, Fredell was immediately aware of a loss of privacy, of having entered “whatever it is, the public sphere.” As students began responding on The Crimson Web site, she understood that she had defined herself at Harvard. “Everything became very clear to me,” she recalled when we met. She would join True Love Revolution. “I realized it was bigger than me, more important.” [article continues...]

 

[Pure]

supreme court justices; "liberal" institutions

here's an oddity; conservative justices applauded by amicus graduated from "intolerant" AND 'liberal fascist" institutions!!

harvard law: roberts, scalia, kennedy, souter; ginsburg (grad columbia)

yale law: thomas

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undergraduate degrees.

roberts, harvard
stevens, u chicago
kennedy, stanford
souter, harvard
ginsburg, cornell

 

[amicus]

I draw attention to a phenomenon exhibited by the above Poster that I choose to coin a new phrase for: Inverse Obverse proportion. Now ya have to go along with me here on a perilous journey to provide an existential definition, with stiletto like incision.

Each and every time I assault one of the liberal left wing bastions of belief; Pure rises to the occasion in direct relationship to the accuracy and audacity of my efforts.

Inverse obverse proportion is functional in the aspect of just how dangerous and threatening Pure judges my exposition to be.

The hour and twenty five minute video is there for all to see and judge whether my portrayal of the intense left wing domination in American Universities is valid or not. Pure knows it is accurate and valid; thus his rabid, urgent search for something obversely contradictory takes on a desperate aura that is evident from his usual plagiaristic copy & paste procedures.

For the third time, depend not on Pure and gang to define your perception, just click on the links and watch.

Ain't this fun, folks?

Amicus