Young White Males? What the hell is happening with them?

[Guest]

[Yeah, I'm playin'. I like this "Unregistered/Sparky" thing - for a while anyway.]

A true story......

This weekend visiting my folks down Lake Anna way - in good'ole Virginnie - a young fella of 19/20 - (a white Virginnie boy) - came ambling down the walk and he requests to give us a sales presentation on cutlery, to my mom and I.

He's augmenting his income - while going to school - 3rd year Cornhusker. Hey...... that's cool.

So why not - we make a date for 4pm.

Now - 3rd year college - good lookin', amiable, affable, clean, generally well bred - and a white dude. I mean WHITE dude. This kid screamed - "southern middle income, parents are GS'rs on the hill, Northern Virginia, educated WHITE dude."

Now it's 4pm........

And - I swear - if he had a 200 word vocabulary I'd have been amazed. I assume he felt insecure about it too - because he punctuated his phrasing with - "actually" or "well, actually" about every 20 words or so. Hey could hardly pronouce it too.

He also - "ummmed" - a lot. I mean a lot. And grammar? Fugedaboudit!

I mean it was painful.

And remember - 3rd year Cornhusker too.

I mean - what the fuck???? Where the hell is this kid gonna work? I would not hire him - no fucking way.

The knives were great Cutco - great stuff - but his presentation absolutely sucked - and they were expensive. But my mom took pity (not to mention of course he was a neighbor's grandson) on the kid an bought the most logical knife - the pairing knife.

As the transaction ensued and neared a conclusion - casual conversation flowed. Our infant son was playing on the carpet, so, get this - and this is a direct quote from the kid - "I got me one. (a baby) My girl friend went and got herself pregnant."

Oh my fucking Gawd!!!!!!!!

3rd year college!!!!!!!

Where have all the white kids gone??????

 

[WriterDom]

Two Words

Rap Music

 

[rambling man]

He sounds like what we call in West Virginnie poor white trash. They generally get ignored and passed along in school without getting much real education.

You do have to give him half credit for supporting his kid, but he still fails for not marrying her.

Third year Cornhusker, hmm, Football player perhaps?



I know personnally of students going to college (not even some from West Virginia) who cant write a paragraph without help.

You should not get out of high school if you cant write a paragraph or speak half way correctly.

 

[Texan]

three letters

M T V

 

[scylis]

- 3rd year Cornhusker. Hey...... that's cool.

And remember - 3rd year Cornhusker too.

and you're actually SUPRISED he's dumb as shit?!?
HE'S A CORNHUSKER, FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!!

(not that i have anything against the University of Nebraska... ok, so maybe i do)

 

[scylis]

Two Words

Rap Music

he's going to school in Nebraska... it's that damn country music!

 

[Texan]

Do you know what the "N" stands for on the side of a Nebraska Cornhusker's football helmet?


















Nowledge......

 

[Guest]

Or, perhaps he just duped you into thinking he was a rube, so you'd take pity and make a sympathy purchase.

... Or, possibly he was lying about the 3rd year Cornhusker part.

... Or, it's just that our educational system needs a massive overhaul.

The good news is that there really isn't a whole bunch of talent comming in the future to oust us out of our jobs (which allow us to view the internet all day long) as we get older. I dunno, just a thought.

 

[rambling man]

Reminds me of an old WVU joke about Pitt alum Craig "Ironhead" Heyward.....he can do anything with a football except spell it


not an exaggeration when you think of Dexter Manley

 

[registered "^^"]

spoken like a true texan

lol.Tex. GO NOTRE DAME

 

[Guest]

This kid is not "poor" -

Though he may be "white trash" - but that's his choice.

This is no son of a plumber or other such successfull blue-collar occupation. His folks are well educated Gov't employee's - his grandparents own a million dollar spread on the lake.

This kid has had all the opportunities afforded upper-middle income white boys from Northern Virginia. Some of the very, very best - top ten Public HS's - in the country.

He's just "not gotten it."

Parrenting maybe.

But - this is not an single case - this is epidemic.

This is "dumbing down."

Why?

 

[scylis]

like the gov't says, "the stupid are easy to control"

 

[rambling man]

Maybe because parents are not emphasizing manners and old fashion breeding like they used to. The baby boomers were more egalitarian and raised their kids that way. The only way for everyone to be equal is for everyone to be stupid. The parents want to let them be what they will be rather than guide them into something productive.
I tell my oldest that with her intelligence, if she does not enter a productive profession I will be extremely disappointed in her. Too many kids have heard "we will be proud no matter what you are."
If my kids are gas jockeys or waiting tables when they are 30, they will never hear I am proud of them, they have too much ability to waste. Of course I tell them that now, be a doctor, a lawyer, a social worker, a teacher, a writer, something important to yourself and the world, don't be a paper pusher and dont settle for something menial. Do something that when you go home at night, you feel you have advanced the world, at least a little...

I'd call it backsliding, myself.

It's true too that in successful families, sometimes a black sheep who rebels against their middle or upper class sensibilities will emerge. Maybe his brothers and sisters are successful and following their parents footsteps...then again you know them better than I do.

 

[Guest]

Yeah but.....

How the hell to you figure......

This kid passed his SAT's????

 

[rambling man]

even if you do not pass your tests, colleges just have you take remedial courses that give you the very basic fundamentals. If you pass them, then you get to take real classes. My university accepted everyone regardless of test scores.

 

[Starfish]

Do you know what the "N" stands for on the side of a Nebraska Cornhusker's football helmet?


Nowledge......

That is the funniest thing I've ever heard....

My Daddy is a native to Omaha and a huge Cornhusker fan, and I am always trying to find funny shit, to which I can pick on him about, concerning them.
Thanks ((((((Texan)))))))


OH and I am sorry if this becomes a debouchery(sp?? help??) of your name but...

Hey, registered "^^". (hey, I got it right!)

Are you from Indiana? I am a decendant of one of the Four Horseman and am forced to love N.D. or be shunned. I have tons of family over there.

(I will tell you which one he is, privately if you desire, to know, but his last name is my maiden name, and that is just too public for my blood. Though anyone who wanted to figure out who I am could at least figure out my married name, with a bit of snooping!

 

[registered "^^"]

Re: Yeah but.....

How the hell to you figure......

This kid passed his SAT's????

test score's mean little in the real world. common sense and street smarts mean much more. intelligence is worthless if not taught to strive to do your best and work to better yourself. i may sound like a male oinker, but i was raised in the 50's. when i got home, there was someone there to guide me and talk to me, and make sure i got my homework finished. most kids now are latch key kids, mom and dad are both at work now and there is no one there to guide the kids after school. in search of the great american dream of handing your kids everything you never had, we have failed them miserably but not teaching them basic values. the most important job in the world is being a mother, and too many have given up that job out of boredom.

 

[registered "^^"]

born and raised

Hooiser farmboy starfish. nice to meet you.

 

[rambling man]

damn stright, "^^"

Education comes also from experience, from seeing and being in the world....education should furnish a person with the knowledge that they have to act in a certain way to gain respect. Acting lowbrow only impresses the lowbrow.

I have been reading a lot lately about early America. What impressed foreign travelers was the generally high level of education. Every farmer knew some law, medicine, science, and philosophy and everyone read voraciously. People knew political and social issues and could debate them factually, even if they could not restrain their rage sometimes.

In other words, people who had no need for education went out and got more on their own than the average "educated" person has today.

 

[Tabby432]

But - this is not an single case - this is epidemic.

This is "dumbing down."

Why?

Sparky all old people think kids are dumb.

 

[Guest]

So, you think I'm old huh?

You are so wrong. If only the Shebabe would come in here and tell the tales.

I keep tellin' everyone - I'm 17!!!! I'm stuck there!!!! I'm too young for this here board!!!!

At least that's where my heads at - hell - I'm building my own potato gun for Christ sakes!

Anyway - no - that's not it. Proper use and articulation of the English language has for years and years been the barometer for which to generally gauge one's smarts.

Even "street smart" individuals recognize the value of this.

And I am one - I have no college degree. Sure you can tell by my lack of grammatical skills, especially punctuation - but - I get by - I've learned via example.

Hell - to pick up pretty good use of the English language all one has to do is watch TV - the news, Bewitched, the Flintstone's, the X-Files - even Homer Simpson speaks better than this kid spoke to us.

No - this kid dumbs down - it's peer pressure - peer pressure to be the same - they are all dumbing down - all the white kids - what's that term????

Whigger's. (Of course I use this word with difficulty but I use it to make a point.)

This kid is not what some might refer to as a Whigger - but he is - seemingly, to me - part way there.

And it's his choice. He wants to fit in with his buds - who are all speaking the same way.

 

[Tabby432]

Hell - to pick up pretty good use of the English language all one has to do is watch TV - the news, Bewitched, the Flintstone's, the X-Files - even Homer Simpson speaks better than this kid spoke to us.

Exactly! This kids brilliant.

 

[rambling man]

careful, spark man, Robert Byrd got in big trouble for saying something similar...of course if a republican had said it he'd be kicked out of the Senate


Seriously, though, I remember when I was in school, I was an undeachiever for a time, but my football teammates did rag me for my low grades..I went to a good high school where people who were in sports were also in national honor society, student govt, etc...they had parents that expected them to do well..mine werent around much so i didnt get the same guidance. Bt I never dumbed down my language or behavior for any reason



I dont know why anyone would make a choice to be an idiot

 

[*bratcat*]

Re: Re: Yeah but.....

 

[Never]

One might point out that modern American culture and history is mostly about white kids being wiggers. Elvis, after all, could have been a wigger.
I might even point out that being a wigger has nothing to do with your intelligence, social class, or knocking up your girlfriend - but I think such a point would fall on deaf ears.

Instead I'll simply remind myself this is why I don't open Spunky threads.