Yes it is C&P but the anti-flag ideology is sickening and I ain't even american

Todd

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MORE OF THESE DEPRESSING ANTI-FLAG STORIES

With every day that passes we get more stories of the anti-US Flat nitwits out there gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands over the feelings of foreign students.

This time it happened at Florida Gulf Coast University in Ft. Myers. The head of library services at that school stopped displays of the American flag by employees. Said that it might be “offensive” to some foreign students.

A story two days ago from California. Quotes from people who starting to be “bothered” by the sight of too many American flags.

Lehigh University in Pennsylvania last week. A student affairs dean orders an American Flag removed from a university shuttle bus

School system in Pasadena, Texas sending children home with American Flags on their t-shirts. “Inappropriate attire.”

NCCI Holdings, Inc., an Insurance company in Boca Raton, Florida prohibiting the display of American Flags. Says it may be offensive to some workers.

Two Black Muslim firemen stationed in Opa-Locka, Florida, refused to ride on a fire engine decorated with the Stars and Stripes. Hundreds of angry people have called the city. The two firemen are now on scheduled vacations--and the Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Director has ordered that county fire engines display the American flag as a tribute to the New York firefighters killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092001noflag.story

Residents at Sahuaro Hall, a dormitory on the campus of Arizona State University, posted American flags throughout their hall and printed fliers showing the World Trade Center and the caption, "Remember." But Sodexho Marriott, which runs the Sahuaro Market, took down a flag one of the residents had posted in the market. Some students say Sodhexo Marriott is afraid of offending international students. Sodhexo Marriott says students need to obtain permission before posting anything in the market.
http://www.statepress.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=95171

An employee of John Elway Ford in Boulder, Colorado, arrived at work Friday afternoon wearing an American flag bandana tied around his head. The manager told the employee that the bandana was "unprofessional" and violated the dealership's dress code. He told the employee he could wear the bandana all day if he wanted...at home. http://www.bouldernews.com/news/local/15lflag.html

New York's Cablevision Corporation, the owner of Cable News Channel 12, has
banned the American flag from its news programming. On-air displays of the flag are prohibited. News 12 news director Pat Dolan said he became concerned when American flags started showing up in his newsroom. And his news anchors started wearing flag lapel pins. Dolan says he doesn't want to give "a false impression that we lean one way or the other" or give the impression that "we may subtly endorse what the government is doing."
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/9/19/114214

Just what is going on here? Suddenly it’s politically correct to go out of your way to protect people from becoming offended by the sight of an American Flag! Look, I have no problem with letting law-abiding foreigners attend our colleges and universities – at their expense. The idea, though, that they should be shielded from the sight of an American Flag while attending school in America is an absurdity of stupendous measure.

I would be ashamed and embarrassed to be associated with Florida Gulf Coast University at this time. The library services director has now issued an apology which you can read at http://www.fgcu.edu/PressReleases/09-19-01statement.html OK, that’s fine. But how many of you think that this apology is genuine? That apology, as well as the apologies issued by the CEO of NCCI in Boca Raton and that student dean at Lehigh are apologies driven by public outrage, not by genuine feelings of remorse.

America has fought wars before – but not even during the Viet Nam War do I remember such animosity being shown toward the American Flag.
 
This is saddening I had read most of these stories before compiled here and it makes me sad that after such a huge american tragedy that an anti american sentiment amonsgt americans is coming through so loudly.


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Todd said:
This is saddening I had read most of these stories before compiled here and it makes me sad that after such a huge american tragedy that an anti american sentiment amonsgt americans is coming through so loudly.


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Define "anti-American""
 
riff said:


Define "anti-American""

to me a part of anti american is the fact that the american flag is an offense to an american.

I mean if I was a business owner a boss or anything in america, I would be holding that flag tall and proud and it would be all over the place.

I would not be hiding it and cowering incase I might offend anyone especially on american soil in an american state in an american town in an american business. no way no how. Stars and strips would be everywhere at a time like this.
 
Here in the UK it has been deemed offensive to display our flag for many years, it has even been called racist to be proud and patriotic about your country, it is all total bullshit and political correctness has gone way too far. Most English people don't even know when St. Georges (our patron saint)Day is because it is often classed racist to celebrate it. I for one believe that not only does this offend people like me who are proud to be British, but I feel it undermines the hard work done for equal opportunities for all, when in trying to give equal rights you take away the right to be proud of your country.
 
Todd,

You're right, it's completely and utterly disgraceful that Americans are being denied their freedom of expression in this way. And that's what it is. Substitute an emblem for a cause, Aids awareness, breast cancer awareness, women's rights, whatever, and the ACLU would be filing lawsuits because their right to freedom of expression had been violated.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

I'll lose my flag when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
 
News professionals -

Should not wear flags or any other signal of political allegiance, when they are on the job. This is to maintain the myth of objectivity. Obviously most of them are excited about the flag.
 
Re: News professionals -

shadowsource said:
Should not wear flags or any other signal of political allegiance, when they are on the job. This is to maintain the myth of objectivity. Obviously most of them are excited about the flag.


When did OUR flag become a signal of political allegiance?
 
Political allegiance to our country is not allowed for newscasters?
They're supposed to be neutral in their allegiance to our nation?

Damn, things are a worse than I thought if we actually believe that.
 
the right to complain about too much flag-waving is exactly what makes this country sooo friggin great, even if the irony of it passes right over the heads of the fools who engage in it

umm...that's a hard sentence to follow isn't it?

let's see...what i mean is (and i have no idea if this will clarify or confuse, but what the hell), we have to tolerate the anti-flaggers, otherwise we wouldn't be who we are...right? the fact that the anti-flaggers are so willing to use that right to denigrate the country that allows them to express it is more than a little foolish...

...it's downright stupid...but then that's the subject of another thread, isn't it?
 
Complaining about too much flag waving is freedom of speech. Yeah it's protected.


But these are cases where American citizens were forbidden to display their flags. Their right to freedom of expression were violated in the guise of political correctness.


There is a problem here.
 
News people are simply not supposed to wear badges of any kind.

As I said, displays make them seem less objective. The more problems you people have with that, the happier I am with the policy as is. It's like prayer in the schools: "What, you don't have a flag pin? Are you a communist? FIRE HIM!!!!!" let people do their jobs. News people have to seem as if they're above it all, which of course they're not. You're all so shocked!!!! Well what if they come on the air with peace symbols? You wouldn't like that, would you?
 
sigh said:
the right to complain about too much flag-waving is exactly what makes this country sooo friggin great, even if the irony of it passes right over the heads of the fools who engage in it

Exactly. By desecrating the flag, they are destroying a symbol of the freedom that allows them to desecrate it.

And by pushing for an anti-flag burning amendment to the Constitution, certain politicians are protecting a symbol while chipping away at the freedom that the symbol represents.

I respect the flag and would never desecrate it, but I am much more protective of the freedoms it symbolizes than the cloth from which it is made. Those who rant on about the flag while supporting anti-freedom legislation miss the point entirely.
 
There are two things I'd like to reply to Todd. The first is the Student Market. In most Union buildings on college campuses, dorms, and even regular buildings, you need permission to post material. Regardless of whether its an American flag or not, had there been a ton of flags on my bullentin board back at school when I was an RA in the dorms, or worked in the union, I woulda taken them down as well. Its a policy thing.

I'm sure the same thing applies to the bandana at the Joh Elways Ford dealership. You didn't say whether the guy was a mecahnic, receptionist, or salesman. If he was either of the last two, yeah, wearing a bandana is in poor taste when it comes to professional attire, and I have no problem with his boss telling him he could wear it elsewhere but not at work.
 
F******* Bullshit!!

My Grandpa was in World War II and I am so proud of that. I am proud as I can be of my country right now and I love the fact that people are uniting. But now since some of the ferver has died down just a tad, now all these big whiny babies come out and have to start being "offended" over things.

This is what offends me PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO LOYALTY!!! PEOPLE THAT GET OFFENDED AT THE SITE OF A FLAG BUT NOT THE SITE OF THOUSANDS OF OUR CITIZENS BEING KILLED AND INJURED!!!!

This is probably not the best way to elaborate on my feelings so please excuse me. I am pissed off. I mean who the hell do these people think they are???? We have no control over where we are born, but I thank God every day that I was born here and I have all the freedoms and liberties that I have. I am soooo fucking sick of people getting offended at things all the damn time. MY GOD, don't we have other things to worry about. I mean, really, if someone has a flag up, WHY should that offend anyone living here in THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!! I mean, come on people you live here, work here, claim all of your rights and priveledges but oh no don't put up that offensive flag. What a crock of shit.



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