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OUTSIDER

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Next summer I'm planning to visit the US and would like suggestion's on places to visit.

I don't want to go to disney world or florida as they are swarming with English people and what I want to do is talk to Americans not other English people ( I can do that at home ).

By the way I don't want to go to Disney because I find them overly corperate and creepy in a Bill Gates kind of way I'm much more interested in small town America ( the real kind not the fake disney type ).

Also if any of you are coming to the UK and need to know something then feel free to ask through this thread.
 
Whereabouts would you like to go - east coast, west coast, midwest, southern states? It's a big, diverse place, and there's lots to see.
 
OUTSIDER said:
Next summer I'm planning to visit the US and would like suggestion's on places to visit.
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By the way I don't want to go to Disney because I find them overly corperate and creepy in a Bill Gates kind of way I'm much more interested in small town America ( the real kind not the fake disney type ).

The Oregon Coast is an interesting area to visit, or at least it was when I was a child. <G>

If you are looking for the differences, then you want to take in the "natural wonders", the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Yellowstone, Mt Rushmore, Pike's Peak, The Rocky Mountains, The Great Plains, and that type of thing.

The scale of the USA is so much more than many Europeans are expecting. Think of trying to visit every building in London on a two week holiday, and you have some idea of the scale of choices you are faced with.

If you are interested in the variety of natural wonders, the National Park service should have a website with information on all of the numerous national parks.

As for Disneyland, or Disneyworld, if you haven't been there, you don't know what you're missing. I personally prefer Disneyland because I share it's birthday. It's a fantasy vision of how America should be, but that doesn't make it not worth visiting. Bill Gates has absolutely nothing in common with Disneyland.
 
A visitor's perspective

I loved Disneyland! I went when I was 24 and felt 8 years old all over again. It was hard figuring out who was the bigger kid my mother or me. The magic and wonder of it still stays with me. I didn’t find it “corporate” at all but then I was to busy following Mickey around.

I been to Florida several times. It’s a beach.

For small town USA I would recommend Vermont. I spent many childhood summers there and still go back to visit every now and then. I remember fondly the summer of my seventh year when my mother dragged me all over the state looking at covered bridges.
 
Thanks to all you who have sent in sugestion's so far, let me explain somehting to you all about why I don't want to go to disney or florida, Outsider does not like big group's of people just big place's and also every other British person I know of went to disney/bush gardens or some other park in Florida I want to talk to local's not other British tourist's and as to wich part of the USA to visit I just want to go somewhere interesting but not to big.

P.S. I live in London so I know what a big city look's like now I thinck it's time to see a small one.
 
if you want a cool city, go check out Chicago.

if you want quaint, go to monatana.
 
OUTSIDER said:
I don't want to go to disney world or florida as they are swarming with English people and what I want to do is talk to Americans not other English people ( I can do that at home ).

you suck donkey dick

some of the bestest people in the world live in florida... but thats ok... you stay away.. its your loss.. and we have to many tourist here already so there!

and florida is not all big busy cities... I live in a small rural north florida town that is very beautiful.. we have so many natural springs around here.. people cpme from all over the world to visit them and to explore them

{{{{squeezes my hometown,FL}}} ohhhhh i wuvvvvv u!



[Edited by Savage Kitten on 09-14-2000 at 07:17 PM]
 
NO NO IT'S ALL BEEN A TERIBLE MISUNDERSTANDING.

SK I have nothing agaist Florida or it's ressident's I just want to go a little off the beaten track and trust me the Florida track is being beaten to death by Brit's, also if you think about a holiday destination that most of your friend's have all been to but you aren't into then you may be able to see where I'm coming from. Sorry if I upset you before.
 
Not to sound like a local tourist board but if you want real america where people will talk to you come visit the midwest. The Great Lakes esp Michigan and Superior are majestic and the people all along the lakeshores friendly. Chicago has the added attraction of being a large city with the museums and gardens. I live in Grand Rapids and this has about the second largest city here in Michigan. People are very nice here in fact last nite I had a flat tire and three men and two little boys helped me change my tire. It turned into a little clinic with the big guys teaching the little ones and then everyone was off on skates and boards. If you let me know what you are interested in seeing I can give you some suggestions. My email is in my profile. Good Luck no matter where you go.
 
Gingersnap is right- come to the heartland. Do you like outdoor activities like fishing, swimming, boating? Music festivals? Art shows? Small town parades? Email me if you want more ideas and you have a better idea of when exactly next summer you will be here.
 
New England ....specificly the mountains of New Hampshire (with the added bonus of booze so cheap you'll wanna fill up your gas tank with it), Coastal Maine a drive up Rt1. through Kittery and Kennebunkport, Bar Harbour up to the Passamaqouddy Bay is breathtaking in its rugged beauty. And never to far away is Boston a great city by anyone's standards. Through all of this you have access to a thousand small towns and hamlets where you can see what you percieve as the "real" America.
 
Well give me land lot's land under stary skie's above don't fence me in.

New England...mmmmmmm tell me more young man.
 
I like the four northern states the best. Maine- Heavily forested interior but with some great ski and climbing mountains, Sugarloaf for skiing, Katahdin for climbing. Mt Katahdin is located in Baxter State Park which also offers the best white water rafting in the eastern part of the continent (easily arrangeable, guided and mild to wild). The coast is spectacular from Kittery on the New Hampshire border to Calais on the canadian border from quaint fishing villages to resort towns. Sea Kayaking in or around Acadia National Park is amazing (I personaly reccomend it) sitting in a kayak less than ten meters from a whale is not something you soon forget.

New Hampshire - Fantastic mountains in the north including Mt. Washinton (highest point on the eastern seaboard and the highest recorded windspeed on earth) lots of unspoiled beauty. In the south on the coast I love Hampton Beach miles of white sand beach and decent deep sea fishing. In between a hundred small towns out of a Norman Rockwell painting. Taxes are low to non existant in this state. Due to that fact, if you enjoy a drink, its damn cheap. 60 oz bottles of premium liqour run about $9.99 US:eek:

Vermont- Gaucho could do this better but. The Green Mountains are beautiful. And you'll find hundreds of examples of real america. In the winter there is also great skiing. I liked Smugglers Notch (not sure if its still in business) and Killington the best. Stowe is also a beautiful place to visit.

Massachusettes - Boston , the Bruins, the Patriots, The Celtics. Harvard, Boston common, Fenway Park. Arts and entertainment venues as good as anywhere. And loaded with areas extremely important to american history. Cape Cod which is beautiful and romantic any time of the year and far less crowded in the "off seasons". To the west you will find a fair amount of urban decay in former mill towns but the Berkshires are particularly lovely in the fall.

Thats enough for now

[Edited by Expertise on 09-15-2000 at 11:26 AM]
 
Oh dear...?

Just found out that physical stuff is out.

Go see "Bad new's for OUTSIDER" for more info.
 
Some folks like to get away, take a holiday from the neighborhood; they hop a flight to Miami Beach or to Hollywood. Me? I'm taking a Greyhound on the Hudson River Line. I'm in a New York State of mind.
 
Not to worry Outsider. Most of these places are accessable to all. As long as you can walk or drive you can do everything but the mountain climbing. Even the summit of Mt. Washington is attainable by car and rail.
 
Time for a cup of tea.

It's funny but the new's about my knee hurt more than the knee ever did but rest asurred that once outsider has had a cup of tea and sit down then he will be right back on trak.

anyway got to go as there is a thunder storm outside and I don't want a fried modem and watching the thunder always make's me feel better.

will log back on again later.
 
Minnesota is where it's at for you. The small towns are charming and plentiful. Visit the land of legend Paul Bunyan. Go fishing. Visit the Renaissance Festival south of Minneapolis, it is wonderful. If you like malls, Bloomington has something for you. If you do anyhting in America, you must attend a minor-league baseball game. Trust me.
 
We will fight them on the beaches...ect...ect.

Damn it I don't care what the doc said I'm going to carry on regardless and paaaaarty...?
 
Dr. Tiggsie's 2 cents!

The coats of Maine is VERY beautiful, but, then again so are the mountains of Napa Valley, Calif. New Orleans is a lovely city full of diversity (but not quiet in the least!). You could always CUM to the Midwest and meet me... ;) lol That could be one hell of a tour of the states! lol

~Dr Tiggs~
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Let me get my banjo.

Tigg's can we go and see some real live redneck's, I'v always wanted to be eyed suspiciously and be called "city folk", I'm only joking but I am realy interested in the mid west and New England.
 
Silly boy. The rednecks are down south! Not so many in the middle. :D
 
Could be cowboys of the west are being confused with rednecks of the south?

Hey Tiggs- to me you live in the West. I'm in WI- that would be the mid-west. :)
 
Hmmm...

I'd say Ne., Ks., Ia., SD., and Mo. would be the Midwest. :) Wi. would be simply North.
 
Re: Hmmm...

Tiggs said:
I'd say Ne., Ks., Ia., SD., and Mo. would be the Midwest. :) Wi. would be simply North.

No, no, no. WI, MI, IL, MN, IA would be mid-west. How are we ever going to give Outsider a tour if we can't point to the correct states in the mid-west? lol
 
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