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[Draco]

Draco,

I have a 20 gigabyte hard drive that contains a lot of very important work data files. Are you saying my protection would be significantly improved if I created a partition so that say, 5 GB remained in the C: drive for the active, reloadable programs, and 15 GB was in an H: drive for data? I do back up with my CD-RW drive, but not as often as I should...

Yes, thats what I always maintain. All it would take is one "boot sector" virus and all your work data has gone, costing you time and MONEY. Any hard-drive should be partitioned (no matter what size it is) Windows is a fickle beast and can crash and take out most of your data with it.

My own system (running Win2000 Pro) has a seperate drive (4 gb) for the Operating System and then all my data, music, games, porn and all other stuff is stored on a partitioned 20 gb. Win 2000 is far more stable, but after loosing everything once or twice, I came to the conclusion, better to be safe than sorry.

Partition Magic can create these new partitions without risking your data, there are other programs, but PMP is the one I know and trust.

It has a relatively simple "wizard type" interface which walks you thru the operations step by step....

See the chart attached for the requirements. I dont want to confuse anyone with technical jargon, so this graph will explain to you the things you will need to know.

Primary Partition
Extended Partition
Logical Drives
Boot Partition (or Startable)

 

[sarahuk4]

Dejanu ....Yes you are correct you can only cam from 5.0 to 5.0 or 5.5 to 5.5 , but for the peace of mind for your pc, I would recommend going back to 5.0 ....my personal preference ...

BTW, that booter hits all systems , I have 98 ....

It has been reported in U.K. to Yahoo! and the police , but dont know what good it will do .....but imagine if it happened to a business person who uses Yahoo! for fun ....and they havent backed up their files .....

This is the worse booter I have seen on Yahoo! and I have been chatting on Yahoo! for over 30 months ....had loads of Y pager errors etc before , and blue screens , white screens but never total wipe out before ....

Sad bastards they are ...

 

[Draco]

Partition - A division of memory or disk storage into logical sections.

Basically you are dividing up your drive space into pieces. This is mainly used to segragate data, so you can store some items(system files) on drive c, and other data(Mp3's, games, movies) on drive d. If you needed to reload windows, you would just need to get rid of drive c and all of your data on drive d would still be there. Therefore not losing anything "important".

Just a technical point...partitioning HAS mothing to do with memory....only STOrage, this is a common error.

All your other advice was spot on.
Many folks confuse memory and storage.

 

[sarahuk4]

Draco , I am totally confused , I have 128 Ram ( whatever that is !!..LOL..)...but been told to upgrade to 256 , but i might have 2 x 64 thingys of it ...but told to have 128 and 64 ...is that partioning please?

 

[Draco]

Nope, nothing at all to do with Partitioning.

PC 101 will now start...please take your seats. Ladies...in the front row please, so I can perv at your legs....(grin)

OK, down to business....

RAM (Random Access Memory.)...usually described as 128 meg, 256 meg etc.

These chips are socketed onto the main circuit (motherboard) board of the PC and are a long circuit board (usually green in colour and have a series of small chips on them)

This is where Windows and all your programs run from, the more memeory you have, the faster the program will run and the more programs will run at the same time (Multi-tasking)

A Hard-drive or Hard Disk Drive: Usually decribed in Giga Bytes

This is a device connected to the motherboard by a wide cable and holds all the data, Windows files and any other stuff you have, (games, movies, music, porn, emails, etc).

When you start Windows (boot up), the system loads the files needed into the RAM space and feeds this to the CPU (Computer Processing Unit). The CPU (the brain of the PC) runs the instructions carried in this data and it displays this on your monitor as graphics (pictures)

Say you want to display a picture of your Mom on the desktop. you go to the location of the file and click it, Windows tells the CPU it wants to see Mom's picture, so the CPU says to Windows, "Give the file to the ram" (think of the RAM as a holding tray for Windows) Windows scans the Hard-Drive and says to the CPU "I have found the file" and sends it into the RAM, the RAM checks the file and then hands it over to the CPU, the CPU processes the instructions in the file and passes the results of the instructions back to the RAM, which once again checks it for accuracy and then hands it pack to Windows. Windows then delivers the the results to Graphics sub-system and Mom appears on your monitor.

Now, the wonder of this all is....that all happens in about 0.005 seconds. Amazing!

Right..Partitioning.

Think of your Hard-Drive as a CD (music CD). Now if they just put all the songs one after the other, that would be chaotic. So they split them into tracks, with a gap between them. You can go to any track you want and play it. Partitioning you drive is similar to that. It divides the hard-drive into sections. You create different partitions (up to 23) on one drive, as many as you want within that limit.

Your Windows drive will always be C:\ (there are exceptions, but I wont go into them here) and normally your CD-Rom is D:\ (This means you only have 1 partition, the Primary Partition.

Ok, if we have a partitioned drive, you can have C:\, D:\ and then E:\ for your CD-Rom.

My System (for example)
Primary Drive 4.3 gb (C:\) Not Partitioned
Secondary Drive 20.4 gb (D:\ = 13 gb) (E:\ =7gb) Partitoned
Teirtary Drive 1.3 gb (F:\) Not Partitioned
CD-Rom (G:\)

If for any reason the C:\ drive crashes or dies, all my data is safe, coz its not one the drive most likely to fail.

I hope this helps
Class dismissed.....

 

[sarahuk4]

Draco , Mmmmmm , Mmmm , now I am even more confused as my GB thingy is only 7.85, so how do I partition that ?...How would I buy more GB thingys......I know now about RAM as you explained that , so I understand about the sticks you buy and you have them put in ....but it is that hard drive thingy I find hard to understand ....

Btw I know, on net , where you can get that Magic Partion thing aswell ....

 

[Debbie]

Hey Dr D? Tonight I deleted the latest yahoo messenger. It kept locking up on me, logging me off etc. I was also getting constant microsoft error messages, this page will be closed, do you want to report the error. etc

Also found this on my desktop...
rdxr 020305.dat.

I ran that through google and deleted it.

The error msges are still happening.
Then my computer will lose it's internet connection.
If I dial up? I keep getting dropped.
To the point that I have to reboot.


Please help, Doc.
Taking two aspirin and hoping you will call my computer in the morning, warning it to behave or else!

 

[Draco]

Ok...basically...a HDD is a sealed unit...you can upgrade the size by purchasing another drive (theres no magic bullet like RAM)
The good thing is You can set up the PC to run 1, 2 or 3 HDDs or even 4 if you dont have a CD-Rom.

Ok Partition Magic is available as a disabled download from
http://www.powerquest.com/downloads/eval-soho.cfm It will do everything EXCEPT the actual partitioning.

There are others out there, but I only use PMP 7.

Grab the download and take a look, it will explain itself as it goes thru it....

PM if you want.....I have the bit you need to unlock it

 

[re_Mark_s]

Squirming in my chair

*hand up*

Um.....Ma'am? How does this nasty sounding "boot virus" work ? I have the newest messinger and as yet have had no problems ...'course I run win95 and on weekends only one hamster is hooked up to my processor. (silly Intel said I needed 2..Ha ! )

Does one have to download something to activate the virus?

*crosses legs and sits attentively*

 

[Draco]

Hey Dr D? Tonight I deleted the latest yahoo messenger. It kept locking up on me, logging me off etc. I was also getting constant microsoft error messages, this page will be closed, do you want to report the error. etc

Also found this on my desktop...
rdxr 020305.dat.

I ran that through google and deleted it.

The error msges are still happening.
Then my computer will lose it's internet connection.
If I dial up? I keep getting dropped.
To the point that I have to reboot.


Please help, Doc.
Taking two aspirin and hoping you will call my computer in the morning, warning it to behave or else!

Debs, I'm not sure on that file..I'll search PC Cillin to see if its virus related and get back to you. I have added You to my ICQ list again so i will get back to yopu ASAP.

Anyone else need help..or can the Dr D go home and fool around with Nurse Cherry now...??

PS: ICQ id 74143512 (let me know your from LIT)
Yahoo is kurgzcomp

 

[Draco]

SarahUK4, it doesn't matter what size it is, you can split it into as many sections as you need.

 

[re_Mark_s]

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,13724,00.asp

sigh

 

[DéjàNu]

Dejanu ....Yes you are correct you can only cam from 5.0 to 5.0 or 5.5 to 5.5 , but for the peace of mind for your pc, I would recommend going back to 5.0 ....my personal preference ...

no no we were 5.0 together but when 5.5 went out we couldnt connect with our webcam so I had to change version. But I think it has to do with the Super webcam for higher speed connection.

Anyway... if you want to know more go make a visit in the yahoo messenger chat room Computer/Yahoo support. Its the better place to get information and help.

 

[Draco]

http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/ymsgr/ymsgr_1065.exe

this is the link from ExtremeTech to a new PATCHED Version of Yahoo. I've posted it here for you guys and gals that want to try it...I'll stick with the one I have.

Dr D

 

[Debbie]

Debs, I'm not sure on that file..I'll search PC Cillin to see if its virus related and get back to you. I have added You to my ICQ list again so i will get back to yopu ASAP.

Anyone else need help..or can the Dr D go home and fool around with Nurse Cherry now...??

PS: ICQ id 74143512 (let me know your from LIT)
Yahoo is kurgzcomp

I have done house call, no virus.
Thank you for all your help.

Thank you again Dr. Nurse Cherry is waiting.
Please don't be late for your appt.
I wouldn't want her to have to discipline you.

 

[Draco]

No worries Debs...

Now, about that discipline thing.....

 

[Debbie]

No worries Debs...

Now, about that discipline thing.....

Have you been a naughty boy? Sweet Cherry and I may have to send you to her room and make you pay the consequences.

 

[Draco]

Have you been a naughty boy? Sweet Cherry and I may have to send you to her room and make you pay the consequences.

Oh yeah...I've been bad....really really bad....please send me to her room.....PLEASE..she'll know how to deal with my badness....

 

[Debbie]

Goddamn yahoo!!!


http://smilies.sofrayt.com/1/k0/smashfreak.gif

Off to reinstall and install the older version AGAIN!

 

[watergirl]

Hmm..

I use yahoo messenger, and for the past few days, none of my friends have appeared to be online, and I've gotten no offline messages. I thought it was just a busy time for all, but maybe it's yahoo and I didn't know.

Now I'm all baffled.