Wuhan Flu update.

[rockcasbah]

He wasn't the only one but go ahead and take your national pride victory lap.

Not the only, just the first.

The link’s a bit too sciencey for me, but the point is that proving when and where a virus began is secondary.

 

[HisArpy]

Things that make you go hmmm.....


1. The time and energy being spent to try and convince everyone that there's no need to look at or investigate the how, what, when, where of the origins of Covid19.

2. The depth of the denialism that the country where the virus originated, and which has a lab actually studying that particular virus while trying to enhance its transmissibility to humans, in the exact province where the virus was first detected in humans, didn't cause the virus to become a pandemic and that it occurred "naturally."

 

[Rightguide]

Here's a link to provoke thought on the subject. I don't think the BBC is some extreme right wing rag, but others may think otherwise.

Wuhan Flu Origins

Facts;

Three researchers that worked at that lab were hospitalized in Nov. of 2019.

The lab was actively engaged in research on coronavirus's carried by bats.

Wuhan is the epicenter of the epidemic.

No evidence was found, or brought forth, that the 'wet' market was the origin.

I doubt that at this late a date that any irrefutable evidence is going to be found. Both the CCP and the researchers at that lab are going to do every thing in their power to bury any 'smoking gun' evidence. But the circumstantial evidence is damning.

What I know about the Mainland Chinese. They lie as a matter of course, often when the lie serves no purpose. It's not that the Chinese are liars by choice, it's a matter of survival. The consequences of making a mistake or causing embarrassment to the CCP are dire. Four generations of Communist rule have forced this upon them. The Taiwanese have no such tendencies. And they're sloppy. They take short cuts sacrificing safety in the interest of production. Safety is NOT #1 in their world.

Back to the link I provided. The last paragraph basically exposes the dilemma. Any investigation will require the full cooperation of the CCP. That fact in and of itself is highly problematic. The notion of a 'no fault' policy is fine on the surface but with 3.5 million deaths, and counting, world wide it's unlikely that the public at large is going to take such an unprejudiced view and the CCP is well aware of that fact too.

So far the CCP's reaction is to accuse and deflect and that too is telling.

Bottom line to date. This virus, to date, not been found in animals.

The very first cases, three lab workers at the Wuhan Lab, became sick in the fall of 2018 with symptoms identical to the Covid-19.

The NIH, through an intermediary, the non-profit EcoHealth Alliance, gave US taxpayer money to help the Chinese finance "gain of function" research on the virus. Fauci initially lied about this. The media, big tech, and the left tried to cover for him. They recognize the implications of US taxpayer money connected to the deaths of 600,000 Americans and millions worldwide.

Here's additional info on the origins and intelligence reports that have come to light. There's no pay wall for this WSJ article:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/intell...covid-19-origin-11621796228?mod=djemalertNEWS

 

[rockcasbah]

Bottom line to date. This virus, to date, not been found in animals.

But Notish had a thread about Covid19 in housepets that was just as strident and self-assured as this thread, Notvette.

Was Notish....wrong...or are you?

Conundrum!

 

[oggbashan]

But Notish had a thread about Covid19 in housepets that was just as strident and self-assured as this thread, Notvette.

Was Notish....wrong...or are you?

Conundrum!

Rightguide is 100% wrong, as usual.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

To date this virus has not been found in animals. So the wet market narrative is bullshit.

Note the Biden administration just shut down the State Department investigation into the sources after a meeting in which the investigation results were revealed. We know Biden is compromised by the CCP so we also know why the investigation was halted and the findings withheld from the public. Trouble for Joe is, it will be leaked.

Keep telling people they need to keep up with the news.



What you need to know



While coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) mostly spreads from person to person, it can also spread from people to animals.

COVID-19 is a type of coronavirus. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Some cause cold-like illnesses in people, and others cause illness in animals, such as bats. In addition, some coronaviruses infect only animals. While the specific source of origin isn't known, the virus that causes COVID-19 is believed to have started in an animal, spread to humans and then spread between people.

Coronavirus in dogs and cats
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a few pets — including cats and dogs — also have been infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. This happened mostly after the animals were in close contact with people infected with the COVID-19 virus.

Based on the limited available information, the risk of animals spreading the COVID-19 virus to people is considered low. Animals don't appear to play a significant role in spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. There is no evidence that viruses can spread to people or other animals from a pet's skin, fur or hair.

However, keep in mind that young children, people with weakened immune systems, and people age 65 and older are more likely to get sick from some other germs that animals can carry.

Bottom line to date. This virus, to date, not been found in animals.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/intell...covid-19-origin-11621796228?mod=djemalertNEWS

It's funny how you reply to me when you *think* you're right but when I prove you wrong... *crickets*

 

[silver gurl]

Animals
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...ection/prevention-risks/animals-covid-19.html

I guess some people just listen to the voices in their head...

 

[jaF0]

Bottom line to date. This virus, to date, not been found in animals.

Researchers detect coronavirus in two feral American mink

Phys.org|9 days ago

Researchers from the Faculties of Veterinary Sciences and Health Sciences of the CEU Cardenal Herrera (CEU UCH) university of Valencia have published the detection of two positive cases of SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in wild American mink,


https://phys.org/news/2021-05-coronavirus-feral-american-mink.html


COVID-19: Mink tests positive at Fraser Valley fur farm

The Vancouver Sun on MSN.com|11 days ago

B.C.'s Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Fisheries says 20 mink were tested for the virus as part of the province's general surveillance procedures, with the one positive test result confirmed on Monday.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=covid+mink&t=seamonkey&iar=news&ia=news



All 8 Covid-19 positive Asiatic lions in Hyderabad zoo recover

India Today on MSN.com|2 days ago

Eight Asiatic lions at Hyderabad's Nehru Zoological Park, who had tested positive for Covid-19 on May 4, have recovered now.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/news...tic-lions-in-hyderabad-zoo-recover/ar-AAKseVh


Giant poodle becomes first dog in Spain to test positive for British variant of Covid

Daily Mail|2 days ago

The 14-year-old giant poodle was asymptomatic but was found to be carrying the virus after a nasal swab conducted by researchers in Madrid who are studying the effects of coronavirus on animals.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pain-test-positive-British-variant-Covid.html


Pet cat in England tests positive for COVID-19

POLITICO|23 days ago

LONDON — A pet cat in England has tested positive for COVID-19, the first confirmed case in an animal in the U.K. and one of very few worldwide. The U.K.'s Chief Veterinary Officer Christine Middlemiss said that it was "a very rare event" and there ...

https://www.politico.eu/article/english-cat-tests-positive-for-covid-19-coronavirus/


31% of dogs and 40% of cats tested positive to COVID-19 after owners' diagnoses

EurekAlert!|30 days ago

31 percent of pet dogs and 40 percent of pet cats tested positive to COVID-19 after their owners' own diagnoses, though under half displayed symptoms, in small Brazilian study.


https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-04/p-3od043021.php


And that's without even looking very hard.

 

[rockcasbah]

Rightguide is 100% wrong, as usual.

He is Irony Man.

 

[oggbashan]

The Wuhan laboratory was studying dozens of Coronaviruses hosted by bats and other animals.

But Rightguide didn't know that...

 

[jaF0]

Bat got your fingers ReichGuide?

Or maybe a mink?

 

[jomar]

Bat got your fingers ReichGuide?

Or maybe a mink?

He tends to do that when confronted with reality.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

He tends to do that when confronted with reality.

It's strange that he would come back after being proven wrong several different ways in the same thread.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's strange that he would come back after being proven wrong several different ways in the same thread.

He is a stupid piece of shit, not even worth engaging with on most any subject.

Even his meltdowns are not worth reading...at least HisArpy's have a certain humour about them...

 

[Champakian]

Animals
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...ection/prevention-risks/animals-covid-19.html

I guess some people just listen to the voices in their head...

Meaningless. There's nothing there about actual cases of infection;; just part of the general panic.

Animals are being tested and are not coming up positive, even in China, where it matters most.

Those of us who posited that it was a lab leak and ridiculed and vilified are now getting a measure of vindication.

 

[Champakian]

Researchers detect coronavirus in two feral American mink

Phys.org|9 days ago

Researchers from the Faculties of Veterinary Sciences and Health Sciences of the CEU Cardenal Herrera (CEU UCH) university of Valencia have published the detection of two positive cases of SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in wild American mink,


https://phys.org/news/2021-05-coronavirus-feral-american-mink.html


COVID-19: Mink tests positive at Fraser Valley fur farm

The Vancouver Sun on MSN.com|11 days ago

B.C.'s Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Fisheries says 20 mink were tested for the virus as part of the province's general surveillance procedures, with the one positive test result confirmed on Monday.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=covid+mink&t=seamonkey&iar=news&ia=news



All 8 Covid-19 positive Asiatic lions in Hyderabad zoo recover

India Today on MSN.com|2 days ago

Eight Asiatic lions at Hyderabad's Nehru Zoological Park, who had tested positive for Covid-19 on May 4, have recovered now.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/news...tic-lions-in-hyderabad-zoo-recover/ar-AAKseVh


Giant poodle becomes first dog in Spain to test positive for British variant of Covid

Daily Mail|2 days ago

The 14-year-old giant poodle was asymptomatic but was found to be carrying the virus after a nasal swab conducted by researchers in Madrid who are studying the effects of coronavirus on animals.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pain-test-positive-British-variant-Covid.html


Pet cat in England tests positive for COVID-19

POLITICO|23 days ago

LONDON — A pet cat in England has tested positive for COVID-19, the first confirmed case in an animal in the U.K. and one of very few worldwide. The U.K.'s Chief Veterinary Officer Christine Middlemiss said that it was "a very rare event" and there ...

https://www.politico.eu/article/english-cat-tests-positive-for-covid-19-coronavirus/


31% of dogs and 40% of cats tested positive to COVID-19 after owners' diagnoses

EurekAlert!|30 days ago

31 percent of pet dogs and 40 percent of pet cats tested positive to COVID-19 after their owners' own diagnoses, though under half displayed symptoms, in small Brazilian study.


https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-04/p-3od043021.php


And that's without even looking very hard.

Same thing here; it's not from China. Those cases probably go it from human contact.

What you need to stick to the original Chinese/WHO propaganda are cases from China...

 

[Champakian]

The Wuhan laboratory was studying dozens of Coronaviruses hosted by bats and other animals.

But Rightguide didn't know that...

They also have a section that works under the direction of the PLA that does what Fauci
said needs to be done, taking a normal virus and making it dangerous and he is on record
saying that it was worth the risk of a lab leak in order to pursue enhanced viruses.

Or were you not aware of that? He was even funding this research, but for political reason,
the Left is anathema to that possibility because it makes them wrong; science deniers.

 

[MartinHeidegger]

They also have a section that works under the direction of the PLA that does what Fauci
said needs to be done, taking a normal virus and making it dangerous and he is on record
saying that it was worth the risk of a lab leak in order to pursue enhanced viruses.

Or were you not aware of that? He was even funding this research, but for political reason,
the Left is anathema to that possibility because it makes them wrong; science deniers.

Rand Paul thanks you for the reacharound.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Meaningless. There's nothing there about actual cases of infection;; just part of the general panic.

Animals are being tested and are not coming up positive, even in China, where it matters most.

Those of us who posited that it was a lab leak and ridiculed and vilified are now getting a measure of vindication.

*chuckles*

So no documented cases of animal to human transmission of COVID-19 eh?

Maybe if you read news from outside the RWCJ you might have learned Sweden had "documented" cases of transmission between humans and mink, as well, there were four other countries who also documented this.

Now I am not going to post a link, ( right now) but I will come back after, and edit one in. Instead I suggest you exercise your massive intellect and search out the information, or keep looking like an idiot. Either way you choose is fine by me...

 

[Champakian]

*chuckle*


Sweden is pretty damed far away from the Wuhan wet market;
again you cannot disprove the Wuhan Lab theory unless
you have the proof from ground zero, which
despite all of the back-pedaling and
misdirection, is not forthcoming.

You would think the Chinese would at least lie about it and fake some data...


Fauci and his merry band, the WHO, would most certainly back them up to
coverup their complicity in assisting the world-wide spread of this epidemic.

 

[Champakian]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosive-study-claims-to-prove-chinese-scientists-created-covid

"Dalgleish is a London oncology professor known for breakthrough work on a vaccine for HIV. Sørensen is a virologist and chair of the pharmaceutical company Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has a financial stake in that company.

"It was during their COVID-19 vaccine research that the pair came across "unique fingerprints" indicating the virus didn’t come from nature, they said. The telltale clue: a rare finding in the COVID-carrying virus of a row of four amino acids, which give off a positive charge and bond to negative human cells."

 

[HisArpy]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosive-study-claims-to-prove-chinese-scientists-created-covid

"Dalgleish is a London oncology professor known for breakthrough work on a vaccine for HIV. Sørensen is a virologist and chair of the pharmaceutical company Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has a financial stake in that company.

"It was during their COVID-19 vaccine research that the pair came across "unique fingerprints" indicating the virus didn’t come from nature, they said. The telltale clue: a rare finding in the COVID-carrying virus of a row of four amino acids, which give off a positive charge and bond to negative human cells."

I don't know if this is true or not. BUT, does anyone want to bet that the mainstream media either won't report on this or will try and label these guys (in Sweden) as "Trumpsters" or "fascists" or idjits who don't know squat about virology?

 

[Champakian]

I don't know if this is true or not. BUT, does anyone want to bet that the mainstream media either won't report on this or will try and label these guys (in Sweden) as "Trumpsters" or "fascists" or idjits who don't know squat about virology?

This has clearly become a political Science issue. The #BlameTrump crowd sided quickly with our enemy China
and their stooge and co-conspirator, the WHO, in order to coverup for China because
our avowed enemy was not the threat, Trump and his supporters were. The mantra was
Trump lied and people died, but the people who lied were the Chinese Communist Party.
If they had been forthright, they would have warned the world and we could have better protected ourselves.
They covered up because they would have been quarantined and that would have been economically devastating,
so they let the virus out of their country in order to protect their economy in a reverse JFK;
a lowering tides sinks all boats (which would preserve their economic ambitions).

You note that the same people who now ignore Science in order to virulently defend the original lie,
are the same ones who hurl the insults such as anti-vaxers, and are the same ones who cling to the
original story without being able to produce any actual evidence and instead engage in source attacking
preferring only the sources that reenforce their political belief system.
They are also the ones who deny that Warp Speed had anything to do with anything
and give Biden the credit for the totality of the vaccine successes and also call for "passports."

You ask them for proof that the virus is alive and well in China and you get Sweden.

SWEDEN???

 

[jaF0]

Damn, where the hell'd that goalpost go?

 

[Champakian]

British Intelligence Believes Lab Leak

"The newspaper reported that three researchers from the WIV were hospitalised in November 2019 with symptoms 'consistent with Covid-19'. That is at least a month before Beijing officially reported the existence of a new respiratory illness to the world on December 31, 2019.

"The revelation gives fresh impetus to long-standing claims that the novel coronavirus virus — official name SARS-CoV-2 — originated not at the Huanan seafood and wildlife market in Wuhan, or at any of the other suggested 'ground zeros', but via a leak in a Wuhan laboratory."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...heory-feasible-says-British-intelligence.html