Wuhan Flu update.

[HisArpy]

Shaddup, GarbageCan.

Like I said, all anyone has to do is type "luk" and you show up.

And you think you're doing it on your own volition.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/Ra675c1d5315ca42f7d38df7fcd1049f8?rik=ALkcmoPL093vng&pid=ImgRaw

 

[HisArpy]

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Harpy better check the ol' blood pressure. It looks like another meltdown is imminent.

*chuckles*

Lolz, luk. I see you're making yet another attempt to have one of your Alts rescue your lying ass.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Timmy triggered again? Lol

 

[Lazaran]

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Sorry Harpy, I'm not "Luk"; you're just an obvious histrionic douche.

*nods*

 

[Fuzzy1975]

*chuckle*


Sweden is pretty damed far away from the Wuhan wet market;
again you cannot disprove the Wuhan Lab theory unless
you have the proof from ground zero, which
despite all of the back-pedaling and
misdirection, is not forthcoming.

You would think the Chinese would at least lie about it and fake some data...


Fauci and his merry band, the WHO, would most certainly back them up to
coverup their complicity in assisting the world-wide spread of this epidemic.

So you chose to keep being the fool.

I figured you would.

 

[HisArpy]

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Sorry Harpy, I'm not "Luk"; you're just an obvious histrionic douche.

*nods*

You're either luk, or his bitch.

You get to choose which. Good luck with that.

 

[HisArpy]

Timmy triggered again? Lol

^ more of luk attempting to make it all about him again.

 

[Lazaran]

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Watch that blood pressure Harpy.

*chuckles*

 

[HisArpy]

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Watch that blood pressure Harpy.

*chuckles*

Not my fault you decided to be luk's bitch. Apparently, you think you're a good ass kisser and cock sucker.

Newsflash, luk don't care as long as you're on your knees.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Why do so many Republicans have homoerotic fantasies about Luk?

 

[RobDownSouth]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/opinion/wuhan-lab-leak-theory-covid.html

I admit I'm kinda surprised that you're reading the New York Times, AJ.

I know you cherry picked the editorial to get the MSM-media-bashing quote you needed, but overall it's a pretty spot-on condemnation of how the media dismissed the lab-leak theory out of hand.

Another valid point from that editorial

One key change to mainstream journalism in the Trump era was the impulse to tell the reader exactly what to think, lest by leaving anything ambiguous you gave an inch to right-wing demagogy. It was not enough to simply report, “Republican politician X said conspiratorial-sounding thing Y.” You also had to specifically describe the conspiratorial thing as false or debunked misinformation...

Remember 'The Boy Who Cried 'Wolf!"? The former guy's staff and followers lied about almost everything else, why should they have been believed at the time?

 

[KeithD]

Remember 'The Boy Who Cried 'Wolf!"? The former guy's staff lied about almost everything else, why should they have been believed at the time?

This. The Trump administration and the board Trumpettes here shot their credibility some time ago.

 

[bellisarius]

All sorts of interesting tid bits in this interview.

Wuhan Lab Leak

 

[Champakian]

The problem is that when the NON mainstream media tried to point this out early on, they got labelled and vilified for it.

Now the evidence is such that all those deniers might have to eat crow. Instead, they'd rather just continue the lies and finger pointing to avoid that. Even if it means that China gets away with killing millions in a world-wide genocide "accident."


Even if it wasn't a lab leak and it occurred naturally, China's denial and coverup, the WHO lack of truthfulness question, and China continuing to send their infected people everywhere abroad without ANY warnings to ANY other nation, shows via circumstantial evidence that the intent was to spread the virus instead of contain it.

Add it up yourselves and see what the answer is in your own mind. I'm on record as saying it was biowarfare. Everything then, and now, points straight to that conclusion. The only ones who don't want to believe, are the same ones who point fingers and blame Trump and everyone else they disagree with except China for the cause.

Yes, you see it here, the doubling down of the Science deniers.

 

[Champakian]

Look at the level of "debate" from the Science Deniers: ridicule, ad hominem, source belittlement,
but no science, no reason, no structured argument and any facts introduced
have had not a single thing to do with China or proving that Covid
is rampant in their various wet-market animal populations.

I wonder who is really "triggered" here...

 

[bellisarius]

Look at the level of "debate" from the Science Deniers: ridicule, ad hominem, source belittlement,
but no science, no reason, no structured argument and any facts introduced
have had not a single thing to do with China or proving that Covid
is rampant in their various wet-market animal populations.

I wonder who is really "triggered" here...

That could be applied to virtually any discussion they involve themselves in. Formulaic and straight out of "Rules for Radicals."

 

[Champakian]

That could be applied to virtually any discussion they involve themselves in. Formulaic and straight out of "Rules for Radicals."

The march of the moral busybodies who would by their actions and words
abrogate basic human nature. Ironically they behave exactly as the religious
who they pillory for the attempt to abrogate basic human nature by word and deed.

There are several fresh example of that here this morning.
As it is with religion, those who have no religion do not need anything other than
their self-assured "belief" and hence they feel free to talk at instead of talking to...

They do not even see that parallel in their behavior and manner of "speech."
I find it hard to discern the moral difference between the Crusades and organizations like #BLM and Antifa
and concepts like woke/cancel culture that attempt to get minds right..



Good thoughts, good words, good deeds.

 

[Rotadom]

Look at the level of "debate" from the Science Deniers: ridicule, ad hominem, source belittlement,
but no science, no reason, no structured argument and any facts introduced
have had not a single thing to do with China or proving that Covid
is rampant in their various wet-market animal populations.

I wonder who is really "triggered" here...

Just because you ignore the science that refutes your opinions doesn't mean that you were not provided plenty of facts. The thread starter states it wasn't released on purpose and doesn't mention wet markets.

I would say you're the triggered one here, unable to keep up.

 

[Champakian]

Neither did I say that it was purposeful in the release, but not in the research.
It was banned here, so Fauci and company simply carried on in China* and
wet markets were inherent in the story from its inception as a magician
uses misdirection to take our eyes off of the illusion of magic.

Like so many issues, too many were all to eager to
latch on to the original story before any facts
were actually put into evidence.

The old saying goes something along the vein of:
A lie travels the entire world before the truth can get its boots on.



* And the PLA were more than happy to have a cover for their activities.

 

[Rotadom]

The original original story was that it would be gone by Spring of 2020 when the weather got hotter and very few would be infected and die.

Then, the truth came out.

 

[bellisarius]

Returning to the subject at hand.

When this all started we had all sorts of scientific types coming out and assuring us that this bug did not originate in the lab. Absolutely NO scientific evidence to support their assertions were presented. But because they had scientific credentials the public 'assumed' that their opinions were based on sound science.

What were their motives? More than likely several different motives. Some were motivated by the desire to defend their scientific colleagues and the integrity of the research (although it appears that just the opposite is occurring). Some were most likely beholding to the CCP financially. Some may have been motivated purely by politics, "The president said this so I'm going to say that." And probably some by motives that I haven't considered.

Regardless of the motives I'm pretty sure that many had wished they'd kept their mouths shut and now hope that the public will forget. Heeding the siren's call for 15 min. of fame in the national media can be costly.

 

[Champakian]

In what way was that the original story?

Remember, when the first outbreaks occurred, Nancy Pelosi said come to San Fransisco
and Saint Fauci told us that going to the Superbowl was completely safe and then
suddenly, they changed their tune because they realized the inherent power
of fear. There was no single coherent position from anyone in government,
but the partisan faithful focused completely on he who shan't be named.

 

[Rotadom]

Are you leaning towards blaming the media for the majority of Covid deaths? Sure seems that way.

 

[rockcasbah]

I love the way everyone here speaks with such certainty about a new, microscopic airborne virus.

The GB is such a repository of expertise!

 

[Champakian]

Returning to the subject at hand.

When this all started we had all sorts of scientific types coming out and assuring us that this bug did not originate in the lab. Absolutely NO scientific evidence to support their assertions were presented. But because they had scientific credentials the public 'assumed' that their opinions were based on sound science.

What were their motives? More than likely several different motives. Some were motivated by the desire to defend their scientific colleagues and the integrity of the research (although it appears that just the opposite is occurring). Some were most likely beholding to the CCP financially. Some may have been motivated purely by politics, "The president said this so I'm going to say that." And probably some by motives that I haven't considered.

Regardless of the motives I'm pretty sure that many had wished they'd kept their mouths shut and now hope that the public will forget. Heeding the siren's call for 15 min. of fame in the national media can be costly.

That is very close to being the truth, the virus was weaponized twice:
once in the lab and then as a political tool by certain elements,
the most dangerous was the left-leaning press...