Wireless network assistance

[Daolas]

Hi all,

I'm currently trying to set up a wireless network at home. I'm using a Netgear 614 router and my internet is Alltel wireless broadband. It's using a Franklin CDU550 USB card.

I've got the network set up and am able to share media files. My problem is that my internet connection isn't being shared. I've selected the share internet connection in the properties for the wireless connection.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Dao

 

[robertearl]

I would get a different modem that has an ethernet output and then connect it directly to the netgear router. Then connect all of your computers to the router. That way you won't have to have the one computer the modem is connected to on all the time.

 

[Snowman5933]

More information please?

How many computers are you networking? I'm trying to figure out which machine is using the wireless card. Are you able to access the internet from one computer, but not with the other? Let me know and will get you some help.

Snowman

 

[kindashy]

Hi all,

I'm currently trying to set up a wireless network at home. I'm using a Netgear 614 router and my internet is Alltel wireless broadband. It's using a Franklin CDU550 USB card.

I've got the network set up and am able to share media files. My problem is that my internet connection isn't being shared. I've selected the share internet connection in the properties for the wireless connection.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Dao

So far I have made zero sense of what you are saying. For example:
If you have wireless broadband, why do you need the Netgrear 614 router?
Or, you have Franklin CDU550 USB card, what for, it is connected to something?

Here is topography of my home LAN:

Wanting to share you internet connection is great, but show me what you have and how you want to have it.

 

[bighornedsatyr]

So far I have made zero sense of what you are saying. For example:
If you have wireless broadband, why do you need the Netgrear 614 router?
Or, you have Franklin CDU550 USB card, what for, it is connected to something?

I think he doesn't have the regular broadband, but is using a broadband-over-cellular solution. Alltel is a cellular company, and, according to Google, the Franklin USB card is for EVDO.

So he has two wireless things. The 802.11 LAN (local area network) and the EVDO WAN (wide area network, i.e. the internet).

Now, the USB card probably needs to be plugged into the computer because it needs to be configured. Then, you'll want to set up internet connection sharing and plug computer's ethernet cable into the WAN port of the router. The router can then share the internet connection with multiple computers. But (a) you'll need to leave the computer the Franklin USB card is in on, and (b) you likely won't be able to share files with that computer.

The problem is that, unless you have a server edition of Windows, Windows Internet Connection Sharing will only share with one other device, so you need the router to share your connection with multiple computers, but to do that, you need to use the WAN port on the router, which effectively firewalls it from the rest of the network.

If you were really technical, you might be able to get around this by either (a) installing a DHCP server on the computer with the USB card or (b) hacking the router for your unique situation.

Most home networks work by having a small cable or DSL modem to act as the gateway device, to handle negotiating the connection with your ISP, and then using the router to handle the connection sharing/multiplication. You'll essentially need to have your router in the same role.

I'd ask Alltel about if there is a similar product for their data network, or better yet, switch to a cable or DSL provider. They're going to be much faster than any cellular data access.

 

[kindashy]

I think he doesn't have the regular broadband, but is using a broadband-over-cellular solution. Alltel is a cellular company, and, according to Google, the Franklin USB card is for EVDO.

So he has two wireless things. The 802.11 LAN (local area network) and the EVDO WAN (wide area network, i.e. the internet).

Now, the USB card probably needs to be plugged into the computer because it needs to be configured. Then, you'll want to set up internet connection sharing and plug computer's ethernet cable into the WAN port of the router. The router can then share the internet connection with multiple computers. But (a) you'll need to leave the computer the Franklin USB card is in on, and (b) you likely won't be able to share files with that computer.

The problem is that, unless you have a server edition of Windows, Windows Internet Connection Sharing will only share with one other device, so you need the router to share your connection with multiple computers, but to do that, you need to use the WAN port on the router, which effectively firewalls it from the rest of the network.

If you were really technical, you might be able to get around this by either (a) installing a DHCP server on the computer with the USB card or (b) hacking the router for your unique situation.

Most home networks work by having a small cable or DSL modem to act as the gateway device, to handle negotiating the connection with your ISP, and then using the router to handle the connection sharing/multiplication. You'll essentially need to have your router in the same role.

I'd ask Alltel about if there is a similar product for their data network, or better yet, switch to a cable or DSL provider. They're going to be much faster than any cellular data access.

This I can work with.

The only problem with your future setup Daolas is that you will need a spare computer. You need it to run the EV-DO Franklin CDU550 USB card. If you have a spare computer, great. If not, then you will either have to get it or settle down for not sharing internet, or switch to DSL/Cable internet. You pick.

If you decide to get spare computer, you can get nice Pentium 4 with Xp for 150 delivered to your door.

Hey Satyr. I think an UpLinked hub (for wired) would work for sharing if the computer with the EV-DO card is running DHCP. Xp should be able to do that.
Or.
UpLink Netgear router to computer with EV-DO card and then you have choice, let router do DHCP or let computer do DHCP.

Daolas, you have choices. Lots of them! (maybe too many)

 

[cd1_christine]

The problem is that, unless you have a server edition of Windows, Windows Internet Connection Sharing will only share with one other device,

Not true. Windows XP Pro will share with a full class C network of 254 machines. (That includes the one doing the sharing.)
I've done multiple machine networks with ICS on Windows Me (shudder), and I'm pretty sure I've done it with XP Home, too.
You'll need a switch or hub to connect all those machines, but that's where the Netgear router comes in.

Having said that, I think I know what the problem is:
I'm assuming you have the machine with the USB interface connected to the Internet through the USB card, then connected with an ethernet cable to a LAN port (usually labelled as 1 2 3 4). Then all the other computers connect to another of the LAN ports, with the WAN port on the router empty. If not, this is how you should be doing it. But, you'll also need to turn off DHCP on the router. The router will automatically assign a gateway of itself, and an IP address on it's own network, which will bork the Internet connection that's being shared through the PC with the USB interface, probably with a completely different address range and gateway. That PC is also acting as a DHCP server, so the two DHCP servers will conflict with each other.

Hope that wasn't too technical.

CD