Wilfull damage.

[Beco]

Are you even serious?

Comparing a pen to a mobile phone?

It's what juvenile delinquents do.

You know... nascent criminals?

Have you priced out Montblanc' lately???

 

[warrior queen]

Parents today are like, but, but, what if my kid has an emergency or needs a ride or something??.....I mean, what ever did we do without cell phones??? How did we make it through those tough times???

Cellphones are the way life is.
Late last year, the schoolbus my kid uses to go to and from school was involved in a minor accident. Henry the bus driver, used my sons phone to call for assistance, and then my kidlet phoned me to let me know he'd be an hour late.
This was handy, because the bus stop is in the middle of nowhere, and I was able to tell the other parents that the bus would be late.
Literally, we all park on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere - about 14km from any other phone or town.

 

[fgarvb1]

Welcome to Left-wing liberalism in control of the education system or whatever they call it in your country.

Chances are if you really do manage to start something, your kid will pay for it by the system if nothing else.

Be careful.

 

[warrior queen]

Welcome to Left-wing liberalism in control of the education system or whatever they call it in your country.

Chances are if you really do manage to start something, your kid will pay for it by the system if nothing else.

Be careful.

See? I see that whole 'be careful' attitude as being a big part of the problem.
Everybody is being careful not to upset anyone, and in the meantime these shits are getting away with everything!
Somebody has to stand up. And I am not going to back off this time.
Nor are about 9 other parents of kids that have had their stuff damaged. We've all had enough.

 

[fgarvb1]

See? I see that whole 'be careful' attitude as being a big part of the problem.
Everybody is being careful not to upset anyone, and in the meantime these shits are getting away with everything!
Somebody has to stand up. And I am not going to back off this time.
Nor are about 9 other parents of kids that have had their stuff damaged. We've all had enough.

I'm just trying to warn you of what kind of people you are dealing with.

Have a alternate schooling plan in the works.

Prepare to be investigated on being an unfit mother and God only knows what else. ( warn the kid to be on their toes also.)

Take steps to see that the kid is not harmed before or after school.
And a host of other things.


Sometimes what is right can harm the one we love.

I say again...be careful.

 

[Aquagal]

So if the cops are involved, the parents of the bully kids most likely know what's going. What do they have to say for themselves, or their malicious boys? Referring to the torn shirts, aren't there bully rules in the school?

 

[Wings]

Is there anything that happens own your country that your family doesn't come to the rescue on?

 

[warrior queen]

So if the cops are involved, the parents of the bully kids most likely know what's going. What do they have to say for themselves, or their malicious boys? Referring to the torn shirts, aren't there bully rules in the school?

Of course there's bullying rules.
But they're so damn pathetic that they are ineffective.
For some reason, educaters these days seem to think the best way to deal with bullies is to have bully and victim attend an intervention, where they both say how they feel, the bully apologises, they shake hands, and it's all better.
Crap.
The second the kids are out of sight, it all starts again.

 

[warrior queen]

I'm just trying to warn you of what kind of people you are dealing with.

Have a alternate schooling plan in the works.

Prepare to be investigated on being an unfit mother and God only knows what else. ( warn the kid to be on their toes also.)

Take steps to see that the kid is not harmed before or after school.
And a host of other things.


Sometimes what is right can harm the one we love.

I say again...be careful.

I am not an unfit mother. This KRC bullshit line is getting old.
What I am right now is an angry mother.

What you are telling me, in effect, is that it's good that I have taught my son not to damage other peoples things, but that my son should know it is perfectly acceptable for other kids to do so?
That he should never stand up because it won't achieve anything, and may well make the situation worse?
Is that your credo?

 

[InSlowMotion]

Of course there's bullying rules.
But they're so damn pathetic that they are ineffective.
For some reason, educaters these days seem to think the best way to deal with bullies is to have bully and victim attend an intervention, where they both say how they feel, the bully apologises, they shake hands, and it's all better.
Crap.
The second the kids are out of sight, it all starts again.

Yep. In a way, the authorities can be bigger bullies, for feeding into the phenomenon.

 

[fgarvb1]

I am not an unfit mother. This KRC bullshit line is getting old.
What I am right now is an angry mother.

What you are telling me, in effect, is that it's good that I have taught my son not to damage other peoples things, but that my son should know it is perfectly acceptable for other kids to do so?
That he should never stand up because it won't achieve anything, and may well make the situation worse?
Is that your credo?

Don't get the panties wadded up!

I am on your side.
I didn't say you were.
I don't keep up with KRC and most gossip around here.
I don't trust many people. I sure as hell don't trust School Boards and Liberals.


I am not a kid. I have had a few problems with our local School District, City and other powerful people say Beruacrats.

They can be helpfull or low down dirty sons of bitches.

They do not play or fight fair and they stick together.

They normaly don't give a fuck what is right, fair or a good thing to do if it doesn't cost them pain, embarressment or money not to do it.

warrior queen, I am only trying to get you ready for battle.

 

[warrior queen]

Just had a ph call from the police - after interviewing the boys involved, the families have agreed to cough up the cost of replacing the phone in order to avoid damage to property charges.
We can pick up the money from the local cop shop tomorrow afternoon.
Result.

 

[oxphocker]

Speaking from the school side of things, often times we are way more limited by current educational law than many people realize. I have one kid who is a known drug dealer, been busted IN SCHOOL several times, and they still sent him back to the same school after a semester at the alternative school in town. Because most of the actual punishments have been declared inhumane or innappropriate in the school setting often times schools are limited in the ways we can deal with particular issues.

Most of it stems from the school district being afraid of lawsuits especially in low income/high crime areas.

If you are looking for ways to address the shirt situation at your school, ask for an appointment with the principal of your school. Instead of going in there guns blazing, calmly outline the concerns you have regarding the shirts and ask what their take on it is. There is a good chance they are limited in what they can do because of district policies. If that is the case, the only way you will be able to affect change is to get a large group of parents to go to the school board meeting, make yourselves very vocal about this being a priority and make it very clear that you are holding the board responsible and plan to vote against them at the next election if there isn't any progress made. This will filter down to the schools very quickly and the principals will be able to take action. Principals are often caught in the middle between parents, staff, students, and the district. Instead of venting at someone who probably doesn't have a lot of options in how to deal with something....go to the people who actually make the policy (the board). This pretty much holds true for anything in a school district short of state/federal laws.

 

[KRCummings]

Why do people believe this idiots line of bullshit?

 

[warrior queen]

Why do people believe this idiots line of bullshit?

I am beginning to wonder about your obsession with me!

Seriously - what could I possibly have to gain by talking about my sons phone and school shirt?
Think about it for a minute before you reply.....



Edited to add.....
I wonder if you could please explain exactly how you KNOW everything I post is bs?
It would help for the n00bs

 

[warrior queen]

Speaking from the school side of things, often times we are way more limited by current educational law than many people realize. I have one kid who is a known drug dealer, been busted IN SCHOOL several times, and they still sent him back to the same school after a semester at the alternative school in town. Because most of the actual punishments have been declared inhumane or innappropriate in the school setting often times schools are limited in the ways we can deal with particular issues.

Most of it stems from the school district being afraid of lawsuits especially in low income/high crime areas.

If you are looking for ways to address the shirt situation at your school, ask for an appointment with the principal of your school. Instead of going in there guns blazing, calmly outline the concerns you have regarding the shirts and ask what their take on it is. There is a good chance they are limited in what they can do because of district policies. If that is the case, the only way you will be able to affect change is to get a large group of parents to go to the school board meeting, make yourselves very vocal about this being a priority and make it very clear that you are holding the board responsible and plan to vote against them at the next election if there isn't any progress made. This will filter down to the schools very quickly and the principals will be able to take action. Principals are often caught in the middle between parents, staff, students, and the district. Instead of venting at someone who probably doesn't have a lot of options in how to deal with something....go to the people who actually make the policy (the board). This pretty much holds true for anything in a school district short of state/federal laws.

I live in Australia.
Our school system works a little differently.

 

[McKenna]

Hey WQ, just a thought, but have you tried contacting the parents of these thugs?

If it were my kid ripping shirts and roughing up phones and being a general pain in the ass, I'd appreciate some parent letting me know, and thereby giving me a chance to deal with it "in house" before going to the cops.

If, as a parent, I fail to curtail the bad behavior, hell, I'd be the first to march him/her straight to the cop-shop.

 

[warrior queen]

Hey WQ, just a thought, but have you tried contacting the parents of these thugs?

If it were my kid ripping shirts and roughing up phones and being a general pain in the ass, I'd appreciate some parent letting me know, and thereby giving me a chance to deal with it "in house" before going to the cops.

If, as a parent, I fail to curtail the bad behavior, hell, I'd be the first to march him/her straight to the cop-shop.

Yes, tried that last year.
The response I got was 'it's just boys being boys'.
Brought it up at P&F meetings too, but nothing was done.
So this year, a bunch of us parents have decided to not replace the shirts and just send our kids to school in torn ones.
Let's see if the school decides to do something now.