Why you'll always be wrong according to the readers

[lovecraft68]

You ever look at a story you either finished or are part way through and have that hmmm, should I shouldn't I? With a scene? You go through, well if I do this, some people are going to...but if I don't do it some might....

Now the answer to this dilemma is....it doesn't matter. Regardless of choice you are going to please or displease someone.

My thought for this thread came from my contest entry. It was originally longer with an extra chapter and additional sex scene, then a quick wrap up epilogue. The closer I got in my editing toward the end the more I began to think...if I cut it here it ends on a romantic note. The other scene was raunchy and featured anal, a big hit/miss. IN the end(anal, the end..stop that) I decided to cut it short and give the sweeter ending. Point here is there were a couple instances in the story where the female MC thinks about anal and being dirty etc...but I didn't go there.

Comments are in and so far there are two saying they wanted the anal(one saying "the anal she teased us with) and two that point out the other comments are wrong and anal would ruin it.

Moral of the story is just go with your gut because one way or another someone will feel the story is lacking something or had something it didn't need.

 

[Athalia]

Moral of the story is just go with your gut because one way or another someone will feel the story is lacking something or had something it didn't need.

It's that old principle of "When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody."

I just submit the story in the category I think most appropriate, and rely on tags to let the readers know what they're in for. After that, my responsibilities are over.

 

[I_Must_Channel_These_Energies]

Yeah. Stories, reviews, and even tier lists are subjected to the gauntlet of crossfire from the masses.

I once wrote a Top 10 list for a gaming site, complete with honorable mentions AND an explanation that many other choices could've made the list but didn't since a Top 10 list has only (you guessed it!) ten entries. The result? Numerous downvotes and comments from individuals decrying the exclusion of choices they would put in their own lists, which none of them even bothered to write.

It's par for the course.

 

[Euphony]

What really is the varience for coloring outside the lines? .3ish maybe? (coloring OTL being stuff not category standard not turning tropes on their head to mess w/readership)

So many quality stories fall within that range anyway. (what I define as 4.8+ is rarely 4.8+ because of page count nutters)

All of us have our own motivations for writing and I can't begrudge anyone who's primarily motivated by score/response b/c most of us fall into that trap at some point or other.

I feel disheartened b/c it seems a fairly finite path to me (b/c scoring here is very generously described as imperfect and able to be mitigated somewhat level "flawed."

My own nitpick is the swimming against the tide "bolt on."

I like to background/justify anything more unusual to the category ostensibly to maintain my own creative interest ( I really do love that shit) but surely there's some subconscious placating going on in me as well.

To thy own self be true.

Hopefully that self is, indeed, your true creative self (or you on the journey to it)

 

[Djmac1031]

In part 9 of my series The Jenna Arrangement, the male lead Tom has been convinced to pose nude for his girlfriend Jenna and her best friend Trish.

This are going great, with the ladies encouraging him to masturbate for them, when Jenna's roommate Michelle walks in.

Seems Jenna knew she was coming home and thought it might be fun for Tom to suddenly be exposed in front of someone else.

In porn, the roommate would have been excited to see him, and joined in watching the show.

My story went the more realistic route; the roommate got pissed and kicked him out, and Tom was upset because he felt Jenna had set him up to humiliate both him and her roommate.

It was my lowest rated chapter of the series, with tons of comments upset about the "ruined orgasm" and "downer ending," despite the fact that Tom and Jenna worked it out shortly afterwards.

Give them a fantasy scenario, they'll complain it's not realistic.

Give them realism, they complain it's a downer lol.

 

[lovecraft68]

Give them a fantasy scenario, they'll complain it's not realistic.

Give them realism, they complain it's a downer lol.

I remember just an outright absurd story here where a daughter has a sleep over and not one, not two, but three of her friends and the daughter crawl into the father's bed and just have to have him

The memorable thing was one of the comments said "You said it was a double bed, no way all those people can fit on a double bed"

So the fact three hot girls wanted to gang bang a middle aged schlub was fine, his daughter joining in was fine...but the size of that bed just took this guy out of the story.

Yup

 

[LongDraw]

I remember just an outright absurd story here where a daughter has a sleep over and not one, not two, but three of her friends and the daughter crawl into the father's bed and just have to have him

The memorable thing was one of the comments said "You said it was a double bed, no way all those people can fit on a double bed"

So the fact three hot girls wanted to gang bang a middle aged schlub was fine, his daughter joining in was fine...but the size of that bed just took this guy out of the story.

Yup

Sometimes it is the smallest most insignificant details that break our stories. I know this all to well with mine lol

 

[Stimtheone]

It's that old principle of "When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody."

I just submit the story in the category I think most appropriate, and rely on tags to let the readers know what they're in for. After that, my responsibilities are over.

Yep, someone somewhere will hate it and the more you try to please everyone the more it loses the things that pleased your main audience. Mine are out there to specifically displease some people but I know those on the other side will like it. Plus, people are chaotic beings of no sense. They will dislike something on a whim or like it for no reason. It's like chasing wind to please everyone.

So choose your audience and work with that one. even if it's you. Often the best person to write is for yourself. If you like it, put it here, see if someone likes it, if not... whatever. You think it's great.

 

[mantonrichards]

That's why the only way to write, is to write for oneself. I had one comment saying "anal incest is the best" over another saying "this is turning into an anal fest".

What really amused me was the acceptance that the mother had sex with the son, only for a reader to be enraged when the mother had sex with someone other than the son and that she had therefore "cheated on him". It didn't seem to bother the reader that the mother had already cheated on her husband.

Whatever one writes, someone is going to get upset.

 

[Duleigh]

I wrote a story episode about a guy whose GF played a game of pool with another woman. He was tied to a chair and forced to watch as his GF and the other woman played a very interesting lesbian version of Eight Ball. It ended with the guy and GF having sex and the other woman watching on from the sidelines and all one reader could say was CUCK!

I give up on some people.

 

[Djmac1031]

Comments on my brother / sister incest story:

by muskyboy on 12/02/2021
Unrealistically reluctant brother

by redpoppies on 12/10/2021
I agree with muskyboy. Where did his anti-incest feelings come from? He's not a Boy Scout. We don't read of him going to church, or that his dad and/or mom were uptight conservatives, or his uncle molested him, or whatever. So all his protestations seem formulaic and perfunctory. So find another way to heighten the tension in the story, or provide sufficient evidence to support your character's position.

Apparently, to these guys, the desire to FUCK ONE'S OWN SISTER is the DEFAULT POSITION.

And so they were upset by the fact that the brother struggled with an inner turmoil over it before cumming on his sister's face.

Those two comments still make me shake my head in wonder.

 

[lc69hunter]

It's that old principle of "When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody."

I just submit the story in the category I think most appropriate, and rely on tags to let the readers know what they're in for. After that, my responsibilities are over.

One of your stories was saved as a favorite of mine years ago.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Comments on my brother / sister incest story:

by muskyboy on 12/02/2021
Unrealistically reluctant brother

by redpoppies on 12/10/2021
I agree with muskyboy. Where did his anti-incest feelings come from? He's not a Boy Scout. We don't read of him going to church, or that his dad and/or mom were uptight conservatives, or his uncle molested him, or whatever. So all his protestations seem formulaic and perfunctory. So find another way to heighten the tension in the story, or provide sufficient evidence to support your character's position.

Apparently, to these guys, the desire to FUCK ONE'S OWN SISTER is the DEFAULT POSITION.

And so they were upset by the fact that the brother struggled with an inner turmoil over it before cumming on his sister's face.

Those two comments still make me shake my head in wonder.

I posted to another thread that stories in the fetish categories such as anal, gay, lesbian, etc draw readers who are specifically interested in those. So, it might stand to reason those looking for incest stories in that category do hold that opinion as if it should be the default for everyone else.

 

[SimonDoom]

I think it's human nature to focus on the negative. If you get 10 comments, and 9 are good, you'll focus on the bad one. I see a lot of that here. I'm not completely immune to it, but over time I've learned almost to ignore it. I try to focus on the positive and ignore the negative. You absolutely cannot please everyone, nor should you try. Write what you want and try to find a readership that appreciates what you write. Ignore the negative as much as you can.

 

[Djmac1031]

So, it might stand to reason those looking for incest stories in that category do hold that opinion as if it should be the default for everyone else.

I always thought the point of a good incest story wasn't the sex itself, but how one gets past the taboo nature of it enough to justify fucking a family member.

But apparently, for those guys, I could have skipped the entire plot line about the sister needing a cum facial to cure her acne and her brother being the only guy available during COVID lockdown (a very silly premise, yes, intentionally so) and just written:

Sister: hey, big brother, wanna cum on my face?

Brother: why?

Sister: oh, no reason. I just enjoy it.

Brother: sure. Why not?

 

[Djmac1031]

I think it's human nature to focus on the negative. If you get 10 comments, and 9 are good, you'll focus on the bad one. I see a lot of that here. I'm not completely immune to it, but over time I've learned almost to ignore it. I try to focus on the positive and ignore the negative. You absolutely cannot please everyone, nor should you try. Write what you want and try to find a readership that appreciates what you write. Ignore the negative as much as you can.

Oh i never focus on my negative comments.

Constructive criticism? Sure. I'll pay attention to those and take them to heart if warranted.

But the few truly negative comments I get always seem to come from someone who's simply missed the entire point of the story.

And there's not a lot I can do about that except laugh.

 

[mantonrichards]

Apparently, to these guys, the desire to FUCK ONE'S OWN SISTER is the DEFAULT POSITION.

And so they were upset by the fact that the brother struggled with an inner turmoil over it before cumming on his sister's face.

I honestly think some people are just contrarians. If you had written it the other way, and there was no moral dilemma, those same people would probably have been complaining that the whole situation was unrealistic for exactly the opposite reasons.

 

[Comshaw]

You ever look at a story you either finished or are part way through and have that hmmm, should I shouldn't I? With a scene? You go through, well if I do this, some people are going to...but if I don't do it some might....

Now the answer to this dilemma is....it doesn't matter. Regardless of choice you are going to please or displease someone.

My thought for this thread came from my contest entry. It was originally longer with an extra chapter and additional sex scene, then a quick wrap up epilogue. The closer I got in my editing toward the end the more I began to think...if I cut it here it ends on a romantic note. The other scene was raunchy and featured anal, a big hit/miss. IN the end(anal, the end..stop that) I decided to cut it short and give the sweeter ending. Point here is there were a couple instances in the story where the female MC thinks about anal and being dirty etc...but I didn't go there.

Comments are in and so far there are two saying they wanted the anal(one saying "the anal she teased us with) and two that point out the other comments are wrong and anal would ruin it.

Moral of the story is just go with your gut because one way or another someone will feel the story is lacking something or had something it didn't need.

To paraphrase an old saying: You can satisfy some of the people some of the time but you ain't never gunna' satisfy all of the people any of the time. There isn't one of my stories that someone isn't bitching about something (mostly that asshole "Anonymous" that hangs around here): 'it's too long" or "it's too short" "the characters aren't exactly like I want them to be" "to much rough sex" "not enough sex" and on and on.

I pay attention to those who bring up legitimate gripes and errors. I smile and pass by those who bitch just to bitch.

As my old man was want to say: "Some people will bitch if you hung em' with a new rope".


Comshaw

 

[Athalia]

One of your stories was saved as a favorite of mine years ago.

Thank you! May I ask which one it was?

 

[lc69hunter]

Thank you! May I ask which one it was?

The Path of Pain. It was so erotic. I am a male, but I felt every pin as it entered her body.

 

[silkstockingslover]

You ever look at a story you either finished or are part way through and have that hmmm, should I shouldn't I? With a scene? You go through, well if I do this, some people are going to...but if I don't do it some might....

Now the answer to this dilemma is....it doesn't matter. Regardless of choice you are going to please or displease someone.

My thought for this thread came from my contest entry. It was originally longer with an extra chapter and additional sex scene, then a quick wrap up epilogue. The closer I got in my editing toward the end the more I began to think...if I cut it here it ends on a romantic note. The other scene was raunchy and featured anal, a big hit/miss. IN the end(anal, the end..stop that) I decided to cut it short and give the sweeter ending. Point here is there were a couple instances in the story where the female MC thinks about anal and being dirty etc...but I didn't go there.

Comments are in and so far there are two saying they wanted the anal(one saying "the anal she teased us with) and two that point out the other comments are wrong and anal would ruin it.

Moral of the story is just go with your gut because one way or another someone will feel the story is lacking something or had something it didn't need.

That may be the truest thing I have read.

Pleasing the readers is impossible. Likely the most important message for readers.

 

[jehoram]

The Path of Pain. It was so erotic. I am a male, but I felt every pin as it entered her body.

When I edited that story for her, I told her that it probably wasn't going to be very popular... too far out. That goes to show you what I know about stories.

 

[Athalia]

When I edited that story for her, I told her that it probably wasn't going to be very popular... too far out. That goes to show you what I know about stories.

Thank you for letting me prove you wrong.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

You ever look at a story you either finished or are part way through and have that hmmm, should I shouldn't I? With a scene? You go through, well if I do this, some people are going to...but if I don't do it some might....

Now the answer to this dilemma is....it doesn't matter. Regardless of choice you are going to please or displease someone.

My thought for this thread came from my contest entry. It was originally longer with an extra chapter and additional sex scene, then a quick wrap up epilogue. The closer I got in my editing toward the end the more I began to think...if I cut it here it ends on a romantic note. The other scene was raunchy and featured anal, a big hit/miss. IN the end(anal, the end..stop that) I decided to cut it short and give the sweeter ending. Point here is there were a couple instances in the story where the female MC thinks about anal and being dirty etc...but I didn't go there.

Comments are in and so far there are two saying they wanted the anal(one saying "the anal she teased us with) and two that point out the other comments are wrong and anal would ruin it.

Moral of the story is just go with your gut because one way or another someone will feel the story is lacking something or had something it didn't need.

So, this sums up your predicament.

It’s my favourite picture of the year of Jamie Lee Curtis’ Oscar, Screen Actors Guild Award and award for best auditor as Deidre Beaubeidre.

It just shows how life is triumphant, bizarre, bonkers and sometimes…sometimes…just a big pain the ass.

 

[ronde]

You ever look at a story you either finished or are part way through and have that hmmm, should I shouldn't I? With a scene? You go through, well if I do this, some people are going to...but if I don't do it some might....

Now the answer to this dilemma is....it doesn't matter. Regardless of choice you are going to please or displease someone.

My thought for this thread came from my contest entry. It was originally longer with an extra chapter and additional sex scene, then a quick wrap up epilogue. The closer I got in my editing toward the end the more I began to think...if I cut it here it ends on a romantic note. The other scene was raunchy and featured anal, a big hit/miss. IN the end(anal, the end..stop that) I decided to cut it short and give the sweeter ending. Point here is there were a couple instances in the story where the female MC thinks about anal and being dirty etc...but I didn't go there.

Comments are in and so far there are two saying they wanted the anal(one saying "the anal she teased us with) and two that point out the other comments are wrong and anal would ruin it.

Moral of the story is just go with your gut because one way or another someone will feel the story is lacking something or had something it didn't need.

I don't intend to ever attempt to please every reader because that's not possible. What my experience indicates is that every author on literotica attracts some number of readers in each genre he or she writes. Other readers may read a story and find something they don't like and they may leave a comment to that effect. If it's a constructive comment and is signed by the writer of the comment, I take notice. If it's just a statement that I did something wrong and is anonymous, I read it, but usually ignore it.