Why War Protestors are Unpatriotic

[Olivianna]

It is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.




- Herman Goering, Nazi Minister

 

[just pet]

I admire the workings of your mind

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Nice!!!

I'm glad to know I'm not the only person to have seen that quote.

 

[crysede]

What scares me the most about the Nazi's, is that they demonstrated how truly easy it really is to get perfectly ordinary, decent people to support the indefensible and do the unthinkable.

ALL THERE IS TO KNOW
ABOUT ADOLPH EICHMANN
- by Leonard Cohen

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What did you expect?

Talons?

Oversize incisors?

Green saliva?

Madness?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

What scares me the most about the Nazi's, is that they demonstrated how truly easy it really is to get perfectly ordinary, decent people to support the indefensible and do the unthinkable.

All you have to do is claim that 'God' is on your side, and that the enemy is evil and inhuman, and the mob tendencies will come to the fore.

 

[Propagandist]

 

[busybody..]

11:53 AM EST | 7:53 PM IRAQ | Town Bans War Tributes on Public Property
FIELDSBORO, N.J. (AP) -- Yellow ribbons and all other war memorials have been banned from public property here, a decision that has drawn criticism from residents and business owners who want to show their support for American troops fighting in Iraq.

 

[Propagandist]

11:53 AM EST | 7:53 PM IRAQ | Town Bans War Tributes on Public Property
FIELDSBORO, N.J. (AP) -- Yellow ribbons and all other war memorials have been banned from public property here, a decision that has drawn criticism from residents and business owners who want to show their support for American troops fighting in Iraq.

SHOOT THEM! SHOOT THEM ALL!

 

[sunstruck]

Nice find Oliviana. Very nice find. This administation has me scared, and it has little to do with the war.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Who cares about a yellow ribbon?!? A ribbon doesn't do ANYTHING.

 

[busybody..]

Its ok to protest the war.....after all its free speech and patriotic.....

But ITS NOT OK to display support for our troops..........

 

[Spinaroonie]

11:53 AM EST | 7:53 PM IRAQ | Town Bans War Tributes on Public Property
FIELDSBORO, N.J. (AP) -- Yellow ribbons and all other war memorials have been banned from public property here, a decision that has drawn criticism from residents and business owners who want to show their support for American troops fighting in Iraq.

Too much content based, not enough compelling state interest... an apellate court will overturn that.

As for the original post, I lorled.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Its ok to protest the war.....after all its free speech and patriotic.....

But ITS NOT OK to display support for our troops..........

Again, I ask you...what is teh importance of a ribbon? Free speech helps keep us free....a ribbon lets you feel good about yourself. One is important, the other is not.

 

[Blazes B.]

Nice find Oliviana. Very nice find. This administation has me scared, and it has little to do with the war.

This administration apparently was planning this war long before they um, were selected.

I don't totally disagree with our purposes there. I just hate the rationalizations that have been put forth. They're totally bogus.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

Nice find Oliviana. Very nice find. This administation has me scared, and it has little to do with the war.

take administration out and insert government. at that point I am with you.

All aspects of the government deserve equal blame in writting this blank check to the pentagon.

Here is some homework for you google fans, find Napoleons address to the Egyptian people before he attacked and compare the wordings to Bushs address to the nation/world.

busy, before you accuse anything concerning me with some crazed insane shitheaded rhetoric, no, you can support the troops in any way you choose. very admirable thing to do.

 

[Propagandist]

Who cares about a yellow ribbon?!? A ribbon doesn't do ANYTHING.

Ribbons, badges and so on are symbols. Perfect for the symbol minded.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Ribbons, badges and so on are symbols. Perfect for the symbol minded.

Good Carlin quote...

 

[Guest]

 

[sunstruck]

Again, I ask you...what is teh importance of a ribbon? Free speech helps keep us free....a ribbon lets you feel good about yourself. One is important, the other is not.

The ribbons are important to those who put them out. Do you even know what they are for?

 

[Propagandist]

Good Carlin quote...

I thought so Also pretty appropriate

 

[Frimost]

Again, I ask you...what is teh importance of a ribbon? Free speech helps keep us free....a ribbon lets you feel good about yourself. One is important, the other is not.

Wearing a ribbon is PART of free speech you hypocritical dumb-ass!!!!!! How would you like it if a town banned AIDs ribbons or Gay Pride paraphernalia? You would be crying to high heaven! So don't be a fucking hypocrite. NO ONE has the right to tell me what to waer or what I can or cannot hang out in front of my apartment/home/car or whatever. If they tried to force me to take it off they can eat some lead!

 

[sunstruck]

Its ok to protest the war.....after all its free speech and patriotic.....

But ITS NOT OK to display support for our troops..........

Of course it is. That NJ decision is bullshit. I think even people who don't support the war should support the troops.

 

[Purple Haze]

This article is a little over-the-top, but so is our government's bullshit level lately...

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Friday, Mar. 28, 2003. Page XXIV

Global Eye -- Blood on the Tracks

By Chris Floyd




Before the first cruise missile crushed the first skull of the first child killed in the first installment of George W. Bush's crusade for world dominion, the unelected plutocrats occupying the White House were already plying their corporate cronies with fat contracts to "repair" the murderous devastation they were about to unleash on Iraq. There was, of course, no open bidding allowed in the process; just a few "selected" companies -- selected for their preponderance of campaign bribes to the Bushist Party, that is -- "invited" to submit their wish lists to the War Profiteer-in-Chief.

It should come as no surprise that one of the leading beneficiaries of this hugger-mugger largess is our old friend, Halliburton Corp., the military-energy servicing conglomerate. Halliburton, headed by Vice Profiteer Dick Cheney until the Bushist coup d'etat in 2000, is already reaping billions from the Bush wars -- which Cheney himself says "might not end in our lifetime."

Cheney is an old hand at this kind of death merchanting, of course. In the first Bush-Iraq War, Cheney, playing the role now filled by Don Rumsfeld -- a squinting, smirking, lying Secretary of Defense -- directed the massacre of some 100,000 Iraqis, many of whom were buried alive, or machine-gunned while retreating along the "Highway of Death," or annihilated in sneak attacks launched after a ceasefire had been called. When George I and his triumphant conquerors were unceremoniously booted out of office less than two years later by that radical fringe group so hated by the Bushists -- the American people -- Cheney made a soft landing at Halliburton.

There, he grew rich on government contracts and taxpayer-supported credits doled out by his old pals in the military-industrial complex. He also hooked up with attractive foreign partners -- like Saddam Hussein, the "worse-than-Hitler" dictator who paid Cheney $73 million to rebuild the oil fields that had been destroyed by, er, Dick Cheney. And while the Halliburton honcho became a multimillionaire many times over, some of his employees were not so lucky -- Cheney ashcanned more than 10,000 workers during his boardroom reign. (At least, he didn't bury them alive.)

Old news, you say? Irrelevant to the current crisis? Surely, now that Cheney has been translated to glory as the nation's second-highest public servant, he is beyond any taint of grubby material concerns? Au contraire, as those ever-dastardly French like to say. At this very moment, while the smoke is still rising from the rubble of Baghdad, while the bodies of the unburied dead are still rotting in the desert wastes, Dick Cheney is receiving $1 million a year in so-called "deferred compensation" from Halliburton. That's a million smackers from a private company that profits directly from the mass slaughter in Iraq, going into the pockets of the "public servant" who is, as the sycophantic media never tires of telling us, the power behind George W.'s throne -- and a prime architect of the war.

This is money that Cheney wouldn't get if Halliburton went down the tubes -- a prospect it faced in the early days of the Regime, due to a boneheaded merger engineered by its former CEO, a guy named, er, Dick Cheney. In a deal apparently sealed during a golf game with an old crony, Cheney acquired a subsidiary, Dresser Industries -- a firm associated with the Bush family for more than 70 years -- which was facing billions of dollars in liability claims for its unsafe use of asbestos. Dresser's bigwigs doubtless made out like bandits from the deal, and Cheney left the mess behind when the grateful Bushes put him on the presidential ticket, but there was serious concern that Halliburton itself would be forced into bankruptcy -- unless it found massive new sources of secure funding to offset the financial "shock and awe" of the asbestos lawsuits.

Then lo and behold, after Sept. 11, Halliburton received a multibillion-dollar, open-ended, no-bid contract to build and service U.S. military bases and operations all over the world. It also won several shorter-term contracts, such as expanding the concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay, where the Regime is holding unnamed, uncharged suspected terrorists in violation of the Geneva Convention. With this fountain of federal money pouring into its coffers -- and Bushist operatives in Congress pushing legislation to restrict asbestos lawsuits -- Halliburton was able to hammer out a surprisingly favorable settlement deal with the asbestos victims. The company -- and Cheney's million-dollar paychecks -- were saved. Praise Allah!

Halliburton is just the tip of the slagheap, of course. Daddy Bush's popsicle stand, the Carlyle Group -- which controls a vast network of defense firms and "security" operations around the world -- is also panning gold from the streams of blood pouring down the ancient tracks of Babylon. Junior Bush -- who like a kept woman made his own influence-peddling fortune through services rendered to a series of sugar daddies -- has conveniently gutted the national inheritance tax, swelling his own eventual bottom line when his father joins the legions of Panamanian, Iranian, Afghan, Iraqi -- and American -- dead he and his son have sent down to Sheol.

Never in American history has a group of government leaders profited so directly from war -- never. Like their brothers-in-arms, Saddam's Baathists, the Bushists treat their own country like a sacked town, looting the treasury for their family retainers and turning public policy to private gain. Like Saddam, they feed on fear and glorify aggression. Like Saddam, they have dishonored their nation and betrayed its people.

But the money sure is good, eh, Dick?

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[honeylick]

...If they tried to force me to take it off they can eat some lead!

what? are you going to hit them in the jaw with your lazy-boy footrest as you snap yourself back into a reclining twinkie-eating position?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

No, I don't agree on banning a yellow ribbon, it sounds stupid. And you don't have to be rude about it, boss...I see your points, mixed in with your idiocy.

If you really want to help, though, really support troops, don't settle for something insignificant like a ribbon or flag. Tying something to your car might make you feel patriotic, but it doesn't make you a patriot.