Why Peter Jackson didn't get an Oscar nod

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Too many voters are watching the tapes and DVDs the studios send them to judge the films, instead of actually seeing the pictures in the medium they were created for -- theatres. IF you see LOTR on TV it will play like an excellent Star Trek episode. To fully appreciate the love and craftsmanship of Jackson's achievement you need to see the flick 40 feet high. Every year the Oscars become more and more marginal.

 

[scrymettet]

I just hope that they keep him for next year with the third movie

 

[phrodeau]

He said he wasn't interested in Oscars anymore. While doing all the requisite campaigning for the first movie, he fell behind on the work involved in the other two. He was critical of their processes and clear in his attitude toward that industry.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

All three films were shot at the same time with Peter Jackson directing. The third film is in post.

 

[JazzManJim]

That and there's a huge, huge snob factor in the nominations, at least from the layman's point of view.

LotR would never be a serious candidate for the big awards, chocked full of relatively unknown and pedestrian actors and being a fantasy-type movie. On the other hand, a half-assed "Chicago" (Don't believe me? See any decent stage production of the musical. You'll be a believer then) can be a big nominee, because the studio pushes it so hard and because the stars in it are rather in vogue.

Feh.

 

[Saint Valentine]

Too many voters are watching the tapes and DVDs the studios send them to judge the films, instead of actually seeing the pictures in the medium they were created for -- theatres. IF you see LOTR on TV it will play like an excellent Star Trek episode. To fully appreciate the love and craftsmanship of Jackson's achievement you need to see the flick 40 feet high. Every year the Oscars become more and more marginal.

I also think it has a lot to do with the subject matter. Fantasy is still looked down upon. In my mind, the man took on a near impossible task and completely blew away my expectations. He has to be the most driven individual on this planet. He deserves much more recognition for what he's done.

 

[cheesysusie]

Hey! I saw Chicago, and I rather loved it. Granted, I haven't seen it on the stage, but it was still pretty damn good in my book. So there!

 

[Killswitch]

Maybe Peter....did the Nod on the wrong Oscar?

 

[sunstruck]

That and there's a huge, huge snob factor in the nominations, at least from the layman's point of view.

LotR would never be a serious candidate for the big awards, chocked full of relatively unknown and pedestrian actors and being a fantasy-type movie. On the other hand, a half-assed "Chicago" (Don't believe me? See any decent stage production of the musical. You'll be a believer then) can be a big nominee, because the studio pushes it so hard and because the stars in it are rather in vogue.

Feh.

I've seen Chicago in New York and Boston. I still loved the movie.


As to LOTR, I am sad to hear he didn't even get a nomination. The undertaking of such an epic and widely read (isn't it like second to the bible in readers?) story alone is worth recongnition. The fact that he took that story and recreated it almost perfectly deserves serious acolades.

But then look how long it took Speilberg. I agree with Dixon that the film vision can not be truely recognized on a small screen, but I also agree with Jim that one of the main reasons Jackson was not nominated was the academy's bias against scifi/fantasy films.

Did it not even get nominations for special effects? Cinematography? I would think it would be a shoe in, in those categories. I can't think of any competition there.

 

[lavender]

I am upset that Chicago got 13 nominations. It's an ok movie - but 13. It doesn't deserve that.

I feel that The Hours is also rather bland.

I haven't agreed with the Oscars best film pick in almost a decade - so I'm not one to really be saying anything.

I am sad Far From Heaven didn't get more recognition. Hell, About Schmidt didn't even get a writing nod. And Adaptation - well, it was snubbed.

But the worst thing, was the fact that City of God (my favorite movie of last year) and Talk to Her (even though it got a best director nod) are not in the Foreign Film category. That category is friggin ridiculous. Monsoon Wedding didn't even receive a nod.

Whatever.

Unless Gangs of New York cleans house, I think I'm done giving a shit about what happens on Oscar night.

 

[badasschick]

Nah, I think its the fact that Jackson is from New Zealand....the LA crowd doesn't like this much, it means their work goes there...so if NZ prods get no support then perhaps in a strange way Companies will be discouraged from going there. The unions are already putting pressure on producers to keep production domestic...this is just another tactic.

 

[sunstruck]

Nah, I think its the fact that Jackson is from New Zealand....the LA crowd doesn't like this much, it means their work goes there...so if NZ prods get no support then perhaps in a strange way Companies will be discouraged from going there. The unions are already putting pressure on producers to keep production domestic...this is just another tactic.

Wow, I never thought about that.

 

[Minkey Boodle]

I think Gollum should have gotten a best supporting actor nod. He darn near stole the show from the show.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

There was some talk about that. The CGI mask the actor wore was so good that people were asking what's the difference between that and a rubber mask?

 

[modest mouse]

But the worst thing, was the fact that City of God (my favorite movie of last year) and Talk to Her (even though it got a best director nod) are not in the Foreign Film category. That category is friggin ridiculous. Monsoon Wedding didn't even receive a nod.

Talk to her was not eligible as best foreign language film because Spain chose to submit a different film. A victim of somewhat arbitrary rules by the academy.

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Too much wieght is put into these awards. the nominations are essentially a victory for the marketing machines fo the studios. The winner is who is left standing after votes are split, people vote 'strategically', etc. What coems out in the wash is an wards show that makes money, and some ablove average films hailed as great.

 

[Spinaroonie]

He said he wasn't interested in Oscars anymore. While doing all the requisite campaigning for the first movie, he fell behind on the work involved in the other two. He was critical of their processes and clear in his attitude toward that industry.

Right. That sounds like a defense mechanism if you ask me. Sounds like the dude was hurt when he lost.

 

[Cerberus666]

two towers was the best damn movie i ever saw. perhaps my view is biased towards the fantasy genre. perhaps i dont have a sophisticated taste in movies. but it was still the best damn movie i ever saw.

 

[Lasher]

I swear the first 6 times I scrolled past this thread I thought that said Peter Jennings.

I was pretty sure why Peter Jennings didn't get nominated so I didn't bother opening the thread.

This makes a little more sense now.

 

[Guest]

That and there's a huge, huge snob factor in the nominations, at least from the layman's point of view.

LotR would never be a serious candidate for the big awards, chocked full of relatively unknown and pedestrian actors and being a fantasy-type movie. On the other hand, a half-assed "Chicago" (Don't believe me? See any decent stage production of the musical. You'll be a believer then) can be a big nominee, because the studio pushes it so hard and because the stars in it are rather in vogue.

Feh.

^what he said.
Also, I think he should've gotten an award for Meet the Feebles, what a cult classic!