Why Doesn't Sean Penn...
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Sean Penn can take a fact-finding trip of my ass.
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roxanne69 said:
Relax with the weiners baby......sheesh....
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Waving the flag and blindly following the lead of others is a dangerously naive way to operate. Regardless of whether he comes to the same conclusions about Iraq as the President or the joint cheifs, at least Penn is putting some effort into making up his mind instead of leaving it to be made up by someone else.
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ChefChip said:
Absolutely.
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Pardon me, did you just say "weiner"?roxanne69 said:
Jeeeezus. If I had a Diet Coke, I would have spewed it, too.
And smooth, his opinions had nothing to do with the fact that he went to Iraq. It didn't change his mind at all. He could have simply kept the $50 grand it took and parroted the same trendy shyte all the rest of the celebrities do.
Like Barbra Streisand. She's a real expert. I bet she did exhaustive research consisting of counting her money and taking a few more farewell tours. I got a special place of my ass she's more than welcome to visit.
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Let him do what he wants. My view is, maybe some Muslims will realise we aren't all Reaganites. We aren't allowed information about our government's operations and true intentions---that fact displeases some. Plus, he pays a lot of taxes---since Rove refers to war as a product line----Penn's checking out the product he's paying for.
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teddybear4play said:
He said he went on a fact finding mission, which implies he kept an open mind and was investigating the matter for himself. Regardless of whether it was a publicity stunt or not, I like the idea of someone doing their own thinking.
Its a sad reality that sometimes, celebs do things like start charities or speak out on issues solely for publicity. Maybe thats the case here. That said, I refuse to jump all over this guy when he's setting a good example (think for yourself), even if he may be doing it for the wrong reasons.
Also, I really liked Sweet and Lowdown.
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teddybear4play said:
Oh, but it's cool for you to take the trendy position of bashing these people
Edit: I'm sure you're a real expert, too, champ.
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If I got 100 signatures supporting the war in Iraq, it wouldn't make the news because they're celebrities and I'm not. They're no more qualified to make those statements than I am.Spinaroonie said:Oh, but it's cool for you to take the trendy position of bashing these people
Edit: I'm sure you're a real expert, too, champ.
As a matter of fact, since I've at least researched some things, I would say I should be taken more seriously than they are. I highly doubt most of them have even thought that much about things. Celebrities like having "causes" so they can be seen as more intelligent than they are perceived to be.
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That is most likely what will happen. Penn Ladin is just another dickhead celebrity who speaks out his ass without knowing what he is getting into.TB---I've never called the person you call President, President. I reckon there are more than 100 actors in Hollywood on the "A" list that feel the same way. There are more than 1000 on the "B" and "C" list that feel the same way. GWB has a burden of proof, his tactics don't sit well with many---initially he refused to let Congress vote---then he refused a UN Security Counsel vote, the popular sentiment of the American people has been the primary means to change his mind. GWB deserves skeptics.
Sean Penn went to Iraq to check it out, good for him. We have not declared war with Iraq. We are engaged in a limited war in the Philippines, Pakistan, the imaginary state of Palestine, and Afghanistan. The UN was consulted, the UN will make a decision. This is an international problem that must be treated in such a manner.
It took 12 years of Reconstruction to civilise the defeated Confederacy to Washington DC's standards (it didn't work, tho). I'm imagining the Middle East 21st Century will take at least that length of time. Sufficient international cooperation is necessary. Hollywood wants that cooperation to occur.
Sean Penn went to Iraq to check it out, good for him. We have not declared war with Iraq. We are engaged in a limited war in the Philippines, Pakistan, the imaginary state of Palestine, and Afghanistan. The UN was consulted, the UN will make a decision. This is an international problem that must be treated in such a manner.
It took 12 years of Reconstruction to civilise the defeated Confederacy to Washington DC's standards (it didn't work, tho). I'm imagining the Middle East 21st Century will take at least that length of time. Sufficient international cooperation is necessary. Hollywood wants that cooperation to occur.
