Why do you giggle with the racists?

SleepingWarrior said:
I'm speaking in general terms (much as I usually do) since I don't really give a shit about other people's personal beefs.


Fair enough. I was specifically referencing Retrieval, however.
 
planetqueen said:
I don't know the history behind that post, but surely you can't think that calling someone a redneck is the same as being racist?

If you want to hurt a redneck's feelings, call him a cracker, or white trash.

That stings.
 
medjay said:
You're asking for a rehash of 14 pages of discussion.


I suppose I am even though I'm not trying to. Just pointing out that decrying it at every corner doesn't stop people from being racists. And that "condoning" it isn't on the same level as actually practicing it.
 
bronzeage said:
If you want to hurt a redneck's feelings, call him a cracker, or white trash.

That stings.

What about "Breads?"

That's always been my catch-all for the white folks. I've never heard anyone outside the midwest use it.
 
medjay said:
What about "Breads?"

That's always been my catch-all for the white folks. I've never heard anyone outside the midwest use it.

The thing you have to realize about insulting a redneck, he is not likely to pay attention to anyone but another redneck.

He might think "Breads" is kind of funny, but no one is going to want to fight over it.

Cracker and Trash have meanings which survive from a long time ago. They only have power when used by one redneck to describe another.
 
Of course there was that time when SLEEPINGWARRIOR, perhaps on the powdery stuff at the time, claimed I'm afraid of white men.

This, after I'd already chased a white supremacist

in Texas, only to find he'd skipped town.

Now I dunno where SleepingWarrior comes from, but a black dude looking to fight a white dude in front of the white dude's JIU JITSU DOJO

IN TEXAS!!!

is probably not scared of white people.

:)
 
LovingTongue said:
Of course there was that time when SLEEPINGWARRIOR, perhaps on the powdery stuff at the time, claimed I'm afraid of white men.

This, after I'd already chased a white supremacist

in Texas, only to find he'd skipped town.

Now I dunno where SleepingWarrior comes from, but a black dude looking to fight a white dude in front of the white dude's JIU JITSU DOJO

IN TEXAS!!!

is probably not scared of white people.

:)
shut up!
 
Retrieval said:
There it is, I knew that would pop up.

I bet you feel guilty about acts committed to people that are now dead, by people that are now dead.
i.e some white people used to own black slaves, so now you feel guilty even though you had nothing to do with it and you excuse all present day black racists even though they were never slaves.

Congratulations, you've just exposed yourself as the complete and utter moron I always knew you were.

I don't often bother to respond to your posts because of your repulsive views however, this has nothing to do with guilt, but rather to do with the fact that racism is wrong, and no amount of justification by the white disaffected is going to make me think it isn't.

Perhaps if you go out and get a life you like then you might not be so full of hate for other people.
 
KyleW said:
I don't like that racists here are treated as normal citizens of lit.
what exactly is a "normal" citizen of lit? by the very nature of posting here so much, I'd tend to think we're a little abnormal, at the very least.

I'd even be willing to bet that people who profess to be such anti-racists have thoughts on occasion that could be considered racist.. none of them will ever admit it, tho. well, one of them did... I think it was lady funk that admitted to having some thoughts in the heat of anger.

this is a stupid discussion. I can't stand to read ks's posts, but I'm not going to stop talking to someone just because they choose to talk to him. all these racist threads remind me of trying to talk religion or politics with my bro. I'm not going to change his mind and he's not going to change mine. they're pointless. fucking drop it.
 
Peregrinator said:
Why isn't all racism the same?

Because racism, built on a history of white oppression, is completely different to racism from a people with no historical or current power basis. Its not just about the semantics, but about the actual repercussions of the racist act and thought. Because of this, it is very different. I am not saying that it is ok for one race to hate another race, what I am saying is that the ability of one race to continue to oppress another race, because of the different power base, is what makes the racism completely different.
 
planetqueen said:
Because racism, built on a history of white oppression, is completely different to racism from a people with no historical or current power basis. Its not just about the semantics, but about the actual repercussions of the racist act and thought. Because of this, it is very different. I am not saying that it is ok for one race to hate another race, what I am saying is that the ability of one race to continue to oppress another race, because of the different power base, is what makes the racism completely different.
you are rather brilliant :)
 
Willie Stroker said:
Call a redneck a nigger, then see what happens!!!!

He just thinks your stupid and dismisses it.

He might still beat the shit out of you, but it won't be on account of hurt feelings.
 
SleepingWarrior said:
I suppose I am even though I'm not trying to. Just pointing out that decrying it at every corner doesn't stop people from being racists. And that "condoning" it isn't on the same level as actually practicing it.
Well, you might as well say, "what's the point of living if we're just going to die in the end anyway?"

You might as well say, "what's the point of being nice and respectful to others online if I'm never going to meet them in real life? What am I losing except electrical energy?"

Then you might as well say, "What's the point of acting respectful to others on an internet forum if I'll never be banned for being disrespectful and people will still talk to me and show me 'friendship' no matter how ugly I act or even if I insulted those very same people to begin with?"

What's the point, indeed? Why bother doing anything at all since we're all going to die someday and all our clocks will be reset to the same zero regardless of what we did in our life?

I can't answer that for you, but I know what MY point is.

My point is that I don't want to be some man pushing fifty, living alone and being bitter about it, unable to come to terms with my inability to socialize with people other than in a virtual, faceless medium. I don't want to be that man who desperately wanted to find love through that medium and tried to connect but ultimately failed because my true character didn't permit me that grace and privilege. I don't want to be that man who just gave up and hides his sadness over his life behind a faux wall of bravado on an online forum, letting small cracks of poor-lonely-me cries for sympathy shine through in order to prove that I'm actually human when its painfully obvious that I'm a racist bastard that no one wants to invest real emotional value in getting to know and wanting to love. I don't want to be that man who thinks there is pride in being honest about my racist beliefs just because everyone else is supposed to be and are always hiding what they really feel. I don't want to be that man who is sexually threatened by men from other race clearly having emotional, mental, spiritual and most especially physical happiness with the women of my own race and feels an angry need to compensate for my failure to attain the same, with any woman, by being racist.

There's always a choice. There's always reasons. We aren't living by "accidents."
 
mrtnmoon said:
what exactly is a "normal" citizen of lit?

Oh, you know, those who sneak around behind the scenes gossiping about other Litsters with all the girls in between forwarding PMs and posting private pictures sent to them by betrayed other normal Litizens. Then there are those who threaten to send such pictures to so and so's family members and neighbors and hell, the Town Crier. Sprinkle in some alts, a fierce agenda to better the place by stating clearly that if you talk to Killswitch you will be mocked at from here on and you have yourself a NORMAL citizen of Lit.
 
IrezumiKiss said:
Well, you might as well say, "what's the point of living if we're just going to die in the end anyway?"

You might as well say, "what's the point of being nice and respectful to others online if I'm never going to meet them in real life? What am I losing except electrical energy?"

Then you might as well say, "What's the point of acting respectful to others on an internet forum if I'll never be banned for being disrespectful and people will still talk to me and show me 'friendship' no matter how ugly I act or even if I insulted those very same people to begin with?"

What's the point, indeed? Why bother doing anything at all since we're all going to die someday and all our clocks will be reset to the same zero regardless of what we did in our life?

I can't answer that for you, but I know what MY point is.

My point is that I don't want to be some man pushing fifty, living alone and being bitter about it, unable to come to terms with my inability to socialize with people other than in a virtual, faceless medium. I don't want to be that man who desperately wanted to find love through that medium and tried to connect but ultimately failed because my true character didn't permit me that grace and privilege. I don't want to be that man who just gave up and hides his sadness over his life behind a faux wall of bravado on an online forum, letting small cracks of poor-lonely-me cries for sympathy shine through in order to prove that I'm actually human when its painfully obvious that I'm a racist bastard that no one wants to invest real emotional value in getting to know and wanting to love. I don't want to be that man who thinks there is pride in being honest about my racist beliefs just because everyone else is supposed to be and are always hiding what they really feel. I don't want to be that man who is sexually threatened by men from other race clearly having emotional, mental, spiritual and most especially physical happiness with the women of my own race and feels an angry need to compensate for my failure to attain the same, with any woman, by being racist.

There's always a choice. There's always reasons. We aren't living by "accidents."


Huh? If I were you I'd just stop looking for companionship (friendship/lovers) on the internet then you wouldn't have to worry about becoming that 50 yr old lonely guy you fear you will become.


And my point is this... decrying racism doesn't change the fact that racism exists. Save the energy you use decrying the practice and actually go out and help the community because that is what combats racism, not just saying its bad.
 
SeanH said:
Redneck is based on class, black people can be rednecks. Nigger is a contraction of negro, a race.
Dunno if anyone posted this yet, but "redneck" refers to the sunburned necks of white folk on the plantation. It's related to "cracker" for "whip-cracker." Most certainly not a rainbow-friendly term.
 
SleepingWarrior said:
And my point is this... decrying racism doesn't change the fact that racism exists. Save the energy you use decrying the practice and actually go out and help the community because that is what combats racism, not just saying its bad.

Quite frankly, it'd be nice if those pointing and laughing at those who wish someone like KS a happy belated birthday and start threads like this would post some fucking porn for once.

Literotica's GB with the Racist PoliceMan who never posts porn and only pix of Killswitch in drag with crappy captions = hmmmmmm.
 
planetqueen said:
Yep - and I wouldn't want to share a street with these people, nevermind a conversation. I don't want that hate in my life, and to condone racism is as bad as to perpetrate it. I don't want those people either.


How rosie of you. You never get angry. Every time you look out the window its a sunny day. Never hated anyone or anything in your life.

Life is beautiful all the time and the men in white jackets are right around the corner darlin.

I find people like yourself to be the biggest hypocrites on the block.

You come here and create this person that doesn't really exist.

You should be a movie star, honey.


Queersetti doesn't have bias against anyone. Kyle doesn't. BG....she loves everyone!

Good grief you are all hypocrites.
 
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