Why do women do it?

[riff]

First of all, I love women. In real life, most of my closer friends are WOMEN. I get along just fine with my bro's and we have a blast together, but I spend most of my time with women.

I think that most men understand this. If not you are probably just a boy. Don't worry, you'll outgrow yourself.

But the older I get, the more obvious it seems to me that women are far more vicious to each other than guys are to each other. When two of you kittens get into a scrap, it's like you just sink in the teeth, fangs, and claws, and you don't fucking let go.

Most guys, I think make peace after a scrap sooner than girls.

Am I totally off-base here? What gives? Fucking women! I love yall to death, but yall can be so damned CRUEL to each other! I am not saying that you don't have wonderful sisterhood relationships and all of that- because I know you do (I spend a lot of time with women). But when yall start marking your turf and walking in circles, you scare the freakin' life out of me.

Call me a pussy. Call me a guy. I am 39 years old and I still try to understand it. Please explain.... and go ahead and flame me if you want, but I am really more trying to learn about something that never ceases to amaze me than to stir-up shit.

It's your world. Have at it.

 

[InnocentAngel81]

ugh i rarely understand chicks and I am one. The claws come out when other chicks look like they are starring at my man or if they got something negative to say about me and need a little help getting it out. I think it's a in born trait. I rarely use my powers to fight evil anymore, I just watch a wwf match or watch some action movie and everything is fine

 

[Guest]

 

[riff]

ugh i rarely understand chicks and I am one. The claws come out when other chicks look like they are starring at my man or if they got something negative to say about me and need a little help getting it out. I think it's a in born trait. I rarely use my powers to fight evil anymore, I just watch a wwf match or watch some action movie and everything is fine

You sound pretty cool to me, but then again.... you got that things ain't what they seem thing about ya!

 

[riff]

Hey, if just every man were as in tune to this, women wouldn't be shit on by men.

I think it safe to say that every woman would KILL for their kids and loved ones. Fight for a friend to the end. Help plan in the demise of someone. (That is my favorite!)

It is instinctive really. We are protecting our own. Not that I've ever literally fought but I have gotten into a few pissing matches because of the threat to people close to me.

You can never have enough good women in your life.

LL.... but why are yall so different to each other than guys is what fascinates me. Or is it just a matter of the women who get my attention? Maybe that is it. Maybe all women are not this way?

You are right- there is a bit of it in the psycho-biological make up, I think. And you are right- I will never have enough good women in my life! But it isn't so much a matter of "good" and "bad" as it is women around whom I feel safe, I think.

 

[sabbathstorm]

Oh I agree that women can be pretty cruel to each other. I've been on the receiving end of some pretty nasty words more than I'd care to remember. I don't bother with it since I don't see the sense. Then again, I tend to get along better with men. It's their wives that don't like me

 

[erosman]

Geez, riff

I'm not sure that beyond y-chromosomes, and a few - very few - physical differences, that the male/female stereotypes run very true. Maybe it's the 6 months of age that I have on you, but I know some guys who will NOT ever let go, and some women who are easily moved to yield.

Maybe your awareness is just focused this morning, on something from your experience. Meditate on some kewl porn, and see if your viewpoint changes.

 

[april-wine]

riff I know exactly what you are talking about, I have seen it a million times lol....Though I think my genetic wiring was crossed at birth....I rarely have the claws come out, unless someone close to me is being hurt....Then all bloody hell breaks loose lol....

But as far as pissing matches, I rarely entertain em.....

 

[lavender]

 

[InnocentAngel81]

You sound pretty cool to me, but then again.... you got that things ain't what they seem thing about ya!

lol not me I am almost the opposite of chick, except the little things. I kinda like a tomboy, steak and potatoes type, not vegetables for me hehe, ask devilboy79 he knows me and how I am. all action movies, blood and gore, get that lifetime stuff away from me.

 

[riff]

I just want everyone to know that I have very ambiguous feelings about this. Everything you are saying rings true, even though I find contradiction in some of the views.

lavender, I am reading your thread now..... thanks.

 

[Summery]

Add me to the list as a woman who doesn't understand women either. Not well anyway.Women can be extremely catty individuals. I have know idea why. Maybe, insecurity/self esteem issues, jealousy...they seem to go hand and hand. We tend to be protective and territorial (hate using that word) almost to the extreme at times, when it comes to the ones we care about and love the most. Let me clarify I am not speaking on the behalf of all women, more my own opinion and take from my point of view. All I really know is, you will rarely see my claws come out. You mess with my child though, look out!But, what the hell do I really know? Most, though not all of my closest friends are male.
Sadly, I guess I don't have any answers for you, Riff.

 

[iwmggw]

riff

i say this under the witness protection program ......so my lady doesn't come in here and tear my ass a new hole......its been my experience that a woman can be far crueler and tougher when things get down and dirty. maybe because men keep learnin this honor thing from an early age.....scouts,organized sports,military....we keep gettin all these honor codes thrown at us and women don't,not to the same extent. i know this is a generality ...and you can argue this away but there has got to be a reason they are tougher than us........and way tougher on themselves!

 

[riff]

This makes sense to me, Mr. Hiller.

 

[Aphrodisiac]

Maybe some thing went astray with me ... because I have never ever been in a fight with a woman, I have never acted in a cruel way and I have never wanted to - I don't care for women like that - when they come @ me , I simply walk away.

Why would I degrade myself in such a manner as to fight a woman or say childlish cruel things to her ... even though she might say cruel things about me , like I said I simply walk away ...

Besides I am " just to intelligent , too powerful, to beautiful, too sure of who I am ... " to ever lower my self to another woman's pettiness.

 

[april-wine]

" to ever lower my self to another woman's pettiness. [/B]

How about I lower myself to your petticoats?......Hmmmmmm

 

[Hamletmaschine]

Women being shitty to other women doesn't bother me.

I just want to know why they're always so shitty to me.

"Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. . . ."

 

[Rubyfruit]

You know, this just isn't my reality. I've never had that problem with women. My best friend and I got into a bad fight once and all we did was not talk to each other for a couple of very painful months. *shrug*

 

[erosman]

See riff, I don't think this viciousness is gender specific. There's some good examples posted here. We all lose out when the easy road of stereotyping is travelled. Each flower in the garden deserves individual attention, to appreciate their uniqueness.




besides, projections inhibit our awareness.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Show me a woman who says, "I've never been catty to another woman" and I'll show you a liar.

Men and women fight differently. That's all this crap about cruelty is about. It's the way women fight with each other. Men get all hot and sweaty throwing body parts around and behaving like bulls in a china shop. Women aren't allowed to do that because it's "beneath their dignity." Just check the women getting into fights over a man thread.

I know that I always feel better after swinging a punch at my object of dislike. Nothing like good physical exertion to really make the other person know how you feel.

When I resort to fighting with words then the cruelty comes out. The old phrase "sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me" is the biggest load of bullshit a third grader ever uttered. Nothing hurts worse than a few well aimed words.

Think about this, if a male normally fights with his fists instead of words, what has he honed to an art? If a male fights with his words instead of his fists, what has he honed to an art? Women, almost as a group, fight with words exclusively. It's the part of fighting that's not "beneath their dignity."

And words hurt worse and for longer periods of time. A fist in the face has a way of building up anger, but not really a great deal of resentment because once someone hits you, you can hit back immediately. Words build up anger and resentment because no matter what you say, you can't be sure it was as effective or taken seriously.

I can make anyone angrier by saying a couple of words then laughing at them when they sally back than I ever could if I just outright hit them.

It's not that men or women are inherently crueler, it's just their choice of weapon that is.

 

[Cherry]

OMG!!!



What is it, Ugly Av Day today?

riff. lavy, Ruby, Hamlet ... Ughhhh!

 

[Private Vasquez]

*meeow*

I'm pretty mean to everyone. I spread my cruelty out evenly amongst men and women.

 

[riff]

Think about this, if a male normally fights with his fists instead of words, what has he honed to an art? If a male fights with his words instead of his fists, what has he honed to an art? Women, almost as a group, fight with words exclusively. It's the part of fighting that's not "beneath their dignity."

Well, I am not here to agree or disagree with you on the original post, but I would like to say that karate and kung fu are an art.

You know what I mean, KM. And I am hearing you. I just trying to sort out what is in my head and what is real, I guess. So I am collecting opinions.

 

[riff]

*meeow*

I'm pretty mean to everyone. I spread my cruelty out evenly amongst men and women.

Communist. heh.

 

[DevilBoy79]

lol not me I am almost the opposite of chick, except the little things. I kinda like a tomboy, steak and potatoes type, not vegetables for me hehe, ask devilboy79 he knows me and how I am. all action movies, blood and gore, get that lifetime stuff away from me.

aye tis true, my lady is a tomboy, and i love it, dont get me wrong she does like to dress um how do you put it babygirl? oh yea "girlie" in dresses and stuff time to time, and she is georgous in them, but still a steak and potatoes girl,

p.s. the claws do come out from time to time also