Why do so many Americans distrust the mainstream media? By John Engelman

[FelHarper]

the average citizen takes pride in their country -

it's the average republican that cares nothing about the world alliances, why they're there - history etc.

please don't vote.

The average Republican fully supported US involvement in Ukraine. All that talk of auditing and such was just Republican politicians warning Ukraine that they better play ball with the incoming House majority. You may notice that this has quieted significantly.

 

[dkovic77]

Blacks are not discriminated against any more. They are discriminated in favor of with affirmative action programs. That needs to end. I am confident it will end.

Know a lot of black people do you? Just because we elected an African-American President of the United States, don’t let that fool you into thinking discrimination no longer exists.

All that did was make racists double down and bring more white supremacists to the forefront, like yourself, with these grandiose looks at statistics that are all based on racism. Your argument of IQ is the biggest of the issues since it was a system developed and normed for Europeans.

Through the efforts of you and other white supremacists here and elsewhere, I’m sure you will do all you can to try to return us to a time when you put all other races in their proper place, firmly below those that are white.

Thanks for the opportunity, as always.

 

[Raazor]

I think that Ukraine was none of our business. I think that US and EU intervention, plus the idiocy of Zelenskyy, have resulted in the unnecessary deaths of 100,000 young Ukrainian soldiers, as revealed in a recent speech by European Commission president, Ursula von Der Leyen. This is a tragedy that could have been averted at any stage if Ukraine had shown any willingness to negotiate towards a balance of power in the region.

Russia is going to be Russia. They’ve been there for a very long time and have their own interests and fears. But what the US and EU have done, for reasons that your average citizen in either region cares nothing about, is inexcusable. This war didn’t have to happen at all.

It could have been averted by Russia not invading Ukraine and laying waste to its cities and towns. Everything else said on the subject is bollocks.

 

[dkovic77]

The average Republican fully supported US involvement in Ukraine. All that talk of auditing and such was just Republican politicians warning Ukraine that they better play ball with the incoming House majority. You may notice that this has quieted significantly.

Fully supported?

And average Republican or average MAGA member?

I think that Ukraine was none of our business. I think that US and EU intervention, plus the idiocy of Zelenskyy, have resulted in the unnecessary deaths of 100,000 young Ukrainian soldiers, as revealed in a recent speech by European Commission president, Ursula von Der Leyen. This is a tragedy that could have been averted at any stage if Ukraine had shown any willingness to negotiate towards a balance of power in the region.

So if Ukraine just let Putin take whatever he wanted. That worked so well in the 1930s, tell us how that went?!?! Tell us how many died then.

Russia is going to be Russia. They’ve been there for a very long time and have their own interests and fears. But what the US and EU have done, for reasons that your average citizen in either region cares nothing about, is inexcusable. This war didn’t have to happen at all.

Russia will be Russia. So of course this war happened. But they do what they always do, try to mislead everyone into thinking they are the poor victims so they can justify their response. Attacking hospitals and materity wards and using the Info Wars playbook of look at those actors, those weren’t nurses and pregnant mothers..

Wow.

 

[Raazor]

The amount of effort that goes into believing and advocating this white suprematist shite could surely be put into something useful, like sniffing glue or drinking toilet duck. If you’re going to rot your brain at least opt for a more socially responsible activity.

 

[ll74]

The amount of effort that goes into believing and advocating this white suprematist shite could surely be put into something useful, like sniffing glue or drinking toilet duck. If you’re going to rot your brain at least opt for a more socially responsible activity.

Copypasta isn't difficult.

 

[dkovic77]

The amount of effort that goes into believing and advocating this white suprematist shite could surely be put into something useful, like sniffing glue or drinking toilet duck. If you’re going to rot your brain at least opt for a more socially responsible activity.

It’s not that much effort, the volumes of evidence do it on it’s own. Look at the centuries of laws that were passed.

Try the Jim Crow south, if you want to focus on one part.

Or the recent census and projection which show the white population will not be the majority in 20 years time.

Or how when the issue of civil rights was debated and passed, those racists that couldn’t handle it left the Democratic Party for the Republican Party- that welcomed them with open arms.

 

[FelHarper]

Fully supported?

And average Republican or average MAGA member?

Both. Sean Hannity (I hate him too) was huge on this for a long time.

So if Ukraine just let Putin take whatever he wanted. That worked so well in the 1930s, tell us how that went?!?! Tell us how many died then.

The early days of the war were characterized by the restraint of the Russian offensive. If you’ve been keeping track, recent attacks bear that out.

Russia will be Russia. So of course this war happened. But they do what they always do, try to mislead everyone into thinking they are the poor victims so they can justify their response. Attacking hospitals and materity wards and using the Info Wars playbook of look at those actors, those weren’t nurses and pregnant mothers..

Wow.

If if Ukraine and the NATO powers had negotiated with Russia, a reasonable solution might have been reached.

 

[Raazor]

Both. Sean Hannity (I hate him too) was huge on this for a long time.

The early days of the war were characterized by the restraint of the Russian offensive. If you’ve been keeping track, recent attacks bear that out.

If if Ukraine and the NATO powers had negotiated with Russia, a reasonable solution might have been reached.

No, it wouldn’t. There was endless European diplomacy trying to avert this senseless, pigheaded war on Russia’s part. No one wanted it, except Putin, and now he’s shit deep in a failing war because he imagined himself as the next great Russian Tsar. Vanity and hubris caused this war, and with support and good fortune, this war will be Putin’s graveyard.

 

[dkovic77]

Both. Sean Hannity (I hate him too) was huge on this for a long time.

Hannity wanted DJT to do something on Jan 6 too. And then after?

The early days of the war were characterized by the restraint of the Russian offensive. If you’ve been keeping track, recent attacks bear that out.

Keeping track of? The 1930s and the appeasement of Hitler? He felt like he needed space and then what happened.

If if Ukraine and the NATO powers had negotiated with Russia, a reasonable solution might have been reached.

Yes, NATO could have bent over and let Putin have his way, thankfully DJT wasn’t there because he would have been there with a smile to applaud Putins efforts.

 

[Sugar Baby Wanted]

Both. Sean Hannity (I hate him too) was huge on this for a long time.

The early days of the war were characterized by the restraint of the Russian offensive. If you’ve been keeping track, recent attacks bear that out.

If if Ukraine and the NATO powers had negotiated with Russia, a reasonable solution might have been reached.

A reasonable settlement was reached by Ukraine and Russia. Biden rejected it because he wanted to punish Putin. You know, fake Russia, Russia, Russia, that this imbecile believes.

 

[ll74]

A reasonable settlement was reached by Ukraine and Russia. Biden rejected it because he wanted to punish Putin. You know, fake Russia, Russia, Russia, that this imbecile believes.

That story is bullshit.

 

[Raazor]

A reasonable settlement was reached by Ukraine and Russia. Biden rejected it because he wanted to punish Putin. You know, fake Russia, Russia, Russia, that this imbecile believes.

No it fucking wasn’t. Biden has no power or leverage to make Ukrainians fight and die in this war. If Ukraine wanted to settle tomorrow, Biden could do fuck all about it. Afghanistan showed you that creating and supplying an army means jackshit if there is no will to fight.

The fucking problem is wankers who insist on defining everything through the lens of American or Western politics or culture wars, as if this is all that matters. You fail to realise that Ukraine and Ukrainians have agency, have the ability to decide what they want for their country, and want they want right now is to defend their homeland and fuck Russia and the tanks they rode in on.

 

[dkovic77]

A reasonable settlement was reached by Ukraine and Russia. Biden rejected it because he wanted to punish Putin. You know, fake Russia, Russia, Russia, that this imbecile believes

Reasonable to who? Putin?

Please provide that full story, should be good reading. Wonder what MAGA friendly source we will get for this one!?!?

 

[FelHarper]

Hannity wanted DJT to do something on Jan 6 too. And then after?

Irrelevant. Hannity is an idiot.

Keeping track of? The 1930s and the appeasement of Hitler? He felt like he needed space and then what happened.

Contrast the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the US invasion of Iraq. The US will bomb the hell out of a country, destroy its infrastructure, basically flatten it, then March troops in to “liberate”. That kind of war is devastating and rife with civilian casualties. We’re only seeing that kind of total war recently.

Yes, NATO could have bent over and let Putin have his way, thankfully DJT wasn’t there because he would have been there with a smile to applaud Putins efforts.

Well, NATO certainly hasn’t done much other than send money and weapons. Why is that?

 

[dkovic77]

Irrelevant. Hannity is an idiot.

So you brought him up.

Contrast the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the US invasion of Iraq. The US will bomb the hell out of a country, destroy its infrastructure, basically flatten it, then March troops in to “liberate”. That kind of war is devastating and rife with civilian casualties. We’re only seeing that kind of total war recently.

Kuwait invasion? They weren’t targets, maybe collateral damage. The Russians targeted those buildings.

Well, NATO certainly hasn’t done much other than send money and weapons. Why is that?

Ummmm because money isn’t countries and world war 3. How much do you think you understand?

 

[FelHarper]

So you brought him up.

Because of his stance as a hawk on Ukraine. He has a nightly show on Fox News, so people watch him tended to favor Heavy US support of Ukraine. Jan 6 was out-of-the-blue irrelevance that you brought up.

Kuwait invasion? They weren’t targets, maybe collateral damage. The Russians targeted those buildings.

Iraq invasion. The US bombed the infrastructure. Electricity, media, telecommunications, etc. The damage to the electrical grid also caused problems with potable water.

Ummmm because money isn’t countries and world war 3. How much do you think you understand?

Because the US does not want a direct confrontation and escalation to yes, world war 3. It is using Ukraine as a proxy.

 

[FelHarper]

Reasonable to who? Putin?

Please provide that full story, should be good reading. Wonder what MAGA friendly source we will get for this one!?!?

Russia wanted Ukraine to agree not to join NATO and to stop killing ethnic Russians in the Donbas region. Supposedly, an agreement for the first concession was reached just before the invasion commenced, but the veracity and timing of that has not been confirmed.

 

[ll74]

Russia wanted Ukraine to agree not to join NATO and to stop killing ethnic Russians in the Donbas region. Supposedly, an agreement for the first concession was reached just before the invasion commenced, but the veracity and timing of that has not been confirmed.

Ukraine already agreed not to join NATO. They weren't killing ethnic Russians.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Ummmm what?

Before the civil rights movement, the highly racist south who fought a civil war to keep their enslaved labor property, understood what exactly?

That they can pass laws that made it a crime to be black? So just that mere fact made black people criminals. And stemming from that, you want to use that as defense for your data that goes all the way back to then?

So glad you can clearly admit to your white supremacy here. Thank you.

Actually, I am a yellow supremacist. By every criterion I value Orientals tend to be superior to white Gentiles. I am a white Gentile.

 

[FelHarper]

Ukraine already agreed not to join NATO. They weren't killing ethnic Russians.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ease-shelling-donbass-is-alarming-2022-02-18/

 

[ll74]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ease-shelling-donbass-is-alarming-2022-02-18/

There were literal Russians in Ukraine. They fought back. Russia has been and continues to be the aggressor.

 

[ll74]

https://www.crisisgroup.org/content/conflict-ukraines-donbas-visual-explainer

 

[YDB95]

At the beginning of the civil rights movement partisans of the movement confidently predicted that when blacks were no longer discriminated against most of them would begin to emulate the lower rates of crime and illegitimacy of whites.

I've never seen anyone quoted as saying anything like that, at least not without a lot of context that you're ignoring.

What happened instead was that whites began to emulate black higher rates of crime and illegitimacy, and black rates got even higher.

You've been saying that so long even your enemies probably assume it's true at this point, but it isn't:

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

Violent crime rates have been falling for quite some time. The only exception is rape, and in 1960 rapes were a lot likelier to be condoned, thus many of them simply weren't reported. So it's really only the rate of reported rapes that has increased.

Behavior is more susceptible to social changes than intelligence. Nevertheless, when social changes are harmful, as increases in crime and illegitimacy certainly are, black behavior is still worse than white behavior.

If true, you can obviously blame white privilege for that. But then you have said repeatedly - including in this very thread - that you don't believe white privilege even exists. Which says a lot about your point of view!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Professor J. Philippe Rushton, like Professor Arthur Jensen, and Charles Murray have been cursed at and denounced. They have never been disproved. Their assertions about racial differences have been thoroughly documented.

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact his work has been Academically withdrawn, discredited and this has been pointed out to you, many times already you fucking idiot!!

JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!