lady_deanna
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If nice guys finish last, why does it seem that most of the ones I meet are already spoken for????
Why do nice guys finish last?
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Because not all women waited as long as you did?
Because you know they are truly nice guys by word of mouth from their other
halves?
There are single nice guys out there tonight -- they're easy to spot: they're the ones at home or with friends and not careening about the bars trying to pick up chicks.
Because you know they are truly nice guys by word of mouth from their other
halves?
There are single nice guys out there tonight -- they're easy to spot: they're the ones at home or with friends and not careening about the bars trying to pick up chicks.
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Ah.. then how are we to meet them?
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I advise going door to door.
Or ask your friends who already have nice-guys to invite you to their place to mingle with his friends (one of the rules of nice guys is that their friends are almost always also nice guys).
Or ask your friends who already have nice-guys to invite you to their place to mingle with his friends (one of the rules of nice guys is that their friends are almost always also nice guys).
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Oh, so it would be like a buffet of nice guys eh?
The mind boggles.
The mind boggles.
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Hmm.. So there are lots of nice guys on lit eh?
Go figure.
Hope you had a good time w/your friends.
Go figure.
Hope you had a good time w/your friends.
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I would suspect so... with one qualification to that statement: can you be a nice guy and an extremently perverted romantic at the same time? I know I can be
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In my experience.. for what it is worth... it IS the nice guys that have the most lascivious natures, and willingness to experiment and truly WANT to please their partner. They will go completely out of their way to make sure the others needs are met, and when given the chance.. astound with delightful wickedness hidden just below the surface...
And this.. is why I prefer the "nice" guys!!
And this.. is why I prefer the "nice" guys!!
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Yes, there are definitely nice guys on lit. I'm sure there are lots of assholes too, not to mention ones with serious emotional problems (I know, the same can be said about the women here). Not that nice guys don't have emotional problems... hell, one could probably make an argument that being a nice guy is an emotional problem!capricious_chic said:
I must say, if I am a nice guy, then your profile is right on target. Underneath the nice guy veneer is a desire to do whatever it takes to squeeze every last orgasm out of the woman I am with. The only problem is traversing the chasm from friends to lovers....
Tonight was ok, some exercise, some dinner, nothing exciting!
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What qualities constitute a nice guy?
Obviously, if a guy is acting like he cares about you and how you feel, but is really just trying to get in your pants, he isn't a nice guy.
Being honest and nice in an intimate relationship is a tough combination. Eventually there will be conflicts where he will hurt your feelings if he is honest.
Obviously, if a guy is acting like he cares about you and how you feel, but is really just trying to get in your pants, he isn't a nice guy.
Being honest and nice in an intimate relationship is a tough combination. Eventually there will be conflicts where he will hurt your feelings if he is honest.
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yep
I agree...however, with the lies comes pain...thats my biggest gripe! I just want to have some nice conversation with someone who will not lie to me, will respect me and if he wants to get into my pants, for Gods sake just tell me...don't go thru the whole game playing of the "I love you's" and then just walk.....thats not for me...I know, I may sound cynical....but I turned that way from some clod who thought it was just fine and dandy to act like that.
Just be honest with what ya want......
I agree...however, with the lies comes pain...thats my biggest gripe! I just want to have some nice conversation with someone who will not lie to me, will respect me and if he wants to get into my pants, for Gods sake just tell me...don't go thru the whole game playing of the "I love you's" and then just walk.....thats not for me...I know, I may sound cynical....but I turned that way from some clod who thought it was just fine and dandy to act like that.
Just be honest with what ya want......
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Ah.. just what does constitute a "nice" guy.
One thing that gives "nice" guys a bad rep is the whole morals versus manners aspect.
Those with morals have the courage of their convictions and act according. You know that when you are with them, they have an integrity that is very tangible. These are the truly nice guys, not the self labeled nice guys. They are nice because it is inherent to their personality. They won't lie or play games, but will be upfront about everything... even when it is not what we want to hear. While they also have manners, you will not worry that they are saying or doing something just because it is the nice thing to do.
Those with manners are a bit more tricky, and are usually the self labeled nice guys. They would never intentionally hurt another. They will go out of their way to be nice, to the point of bending over backwards.. and they will say all the lovely things you want to hear. However, more often than not.. they would say these things to anyone. Then one is left to wonder if they are exclusive... They wont outright lie, but they may gloss over the truth at times to avoid conflict.
Just because a man is being nice to you, does not constitute him being a nice guy.
Ah.. but these are early morning ramblings.. and I may not be as coherent as I think I am... so pardon me if I am causing confusion.
Basically I am expanding on what cyberguy said, and I think it is an important distinction that most women miss. Just because someone has manners, doesn't always mean that they have morals.
Crossing that chasm, can only really be done if there is a distinct physical attraction. Sometimes us girls, don't realize that someone is attractive until they present themselves to us that way. That is often times why we don't realize what a great guy our "friend" is until he begins a relationship. That is the only time we actually see them as a sexual being, because that is the time it is presented to us as such. So be yourself, and if you are a sexual creature (and just who isn't?? lol).. present yourself that way.. even to your friends. It will make them wonder.. capture their imagination and curiousity.. and sometimes, when we are lucky.. bring forth a unbeknownst attraction.
So.. uhm.. cyberguy.. you work out?
One thing that gives "nice" guys a bad rep is the whole morals versus manners aspect.
Those with morals have the courage of their convictions and act according. You know that when you are with them, they have an integrity that is very tangible. These are the truly nice guys, not the self labeled nice guys. They are nice because it is inherent to their personality. They won't lie or play games, but will be upfront about everything... even when it is not what we want to hear. While they also have manners, you will not worry that they are saying or doing something just because it is the nice thing to do.
Those with manners are a bit more tricky, and are usually the self labeled nice guys. They would never intentionally hurt another. They will go out of their way to be nice, to the point of bending over backwards.. and they will say all the lovely things you want to hear. However, more often than not.. they would say these things to anyone. Then one is left to wonder if they are exclusive... They wont outright lie, but they may gloss over the truth at times to avoid conflict.
Just because a man is being nice to you, does not constitute him being a nice guy.
Ah.. but these are early morning ramblings.. and I may not be as coherent as I think I am... so pardon me if I am causing confusion.
Basically I am expanding on what cyberguy said, and I think it is an important distinction that most women miss. Just because someone has manners, doesn't always mean that they have morals.
Crossing that chasm, can only really be done if there is a distinct physical attraction. Sometimes us girls, don't realize that someone is attractive until they present themselves to us that way. That is often times why we don't realize what a great guy our "friend" is until he begins a relationship. That is the only time we actually see them as a sexual being, because that is the time it is presented to us as such. So be yourself, and if you are a sexual creature (and just who isn't?? lol).. present yourself that way.. even to your friends. It will make them wonder.. capture their imagination and curiousity.. and sometimes, when we are lucky.. bring forth a unbeknownst attraction.
So.. uhm.. cyberguy.. you work out?
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No confusion CC, I think you are right on the mark. This past week I had lunch with a friend who recently started dating a guy that most definitely has manners and may well have morals (he is very involved in church activities). She told me how her mother had just met him, and didn't like him, which was surprising because her mother usually doesn't dislike the guys she dates.
Her mother's objection was that he continued to call her Mrs. XXX after she asked him each time to address her by her first name. He was being polite and well-mannered, but it bothered her because she felt she couldn't tell who he was and couldn't get beyond the polite facade.
I really struggle on that issue of trying to turn a just-friends relationship into something more. I understand it in concept, but get stuck in the mindset that if a woman is interested in being more than friends, she would give some indication, and that a guy should take the hint and not pursue beyond friendship if she doesn't take advantage of opportunities to encourage interest.
If a guy is attracted to a friend and a relationship is possible (i.e., they aren't involved with other people) is he morally obligated to let her know, even if she hasn't given any indication that she feels the same way? Even if it isn't a moral obligation, is it the "right thing" to do?
And yes, I do work out, although last night I was actually playing wallyball (i.e. volleyball on a racquetball court). I worked out yesterday morning though
Her mother's objection was that he continued to call her Mrs. XXX after she asked him each time to address her by her first name. He was being polite and well-mannered, but it bothered her because she felt she couldn't tell who he was and couldn't get beyond the polite facade.
I really struggle on that issue of trying to turn a just-friends relationship into something more. I understand it in concept, but get stuck in the mindset that if a woman is interested in being more than friends, she would give some indication, and that a guy should take the hint and not pursue beyond friendship if she doesn't take advantage of opportunities to encourage interest.
If a guy is attracted to a friend and a relationship is possible (i.e., they aren't involved with other people) is he morally obligated to let her know, even if she hasn't given any indication that she feels the same way? Even if it isn't a moral obligation, is it the "right thing" to do?
And yes, I do work out, although last night I was actually playing wallyball (i.e. volleyball on a racquetball court). I worked out yesterday morning though
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Ah.. but you see.. when dealing with friendships involving women, or "nice" girls.. often times they are too shy or inhibited (depending on their age) to give you signs and indications that they are attracted to you. Again, they may not realize that you are a sexual being if you only present yourself in a platonic fashion. (heh.. unless you are dealing with someone like me.. that is a total perv and somewhat aggressive).
Of course, there are obvious signs that a woman is only interested in a platonic relationship.. that being mainly if the opportunity presents itself, and she gives you clear "no" signals.
If she is hesitant, or unsure.. odds are she has some latent attraction or curiousity and is afraid to act upon it.. because it will change the friendship.. or won't be reciprical. Women oft times have the mindset that most men will "do" anything that moves.. so they might be afraid that the guy is just lonely or horny.. and while sex is easy, relationships are not.
If a guy is attracted to a woman, and a relationship is possible.. it is not that they are obligated to tell her. There are subtle ways to incorporate a conversation that will let you know where you stand.. without jeopardizing the friendship if it is not something she would want to pursue. Mainly just having conversations about sexual things.. Kinks and such. This is always a fun conversation to have... although there are people that would be highly uncomfortable even discussing sex (these people scare me..btw.. I have never had much respect for people who are willing to have sex, but are afraid to discuss it). Bring small things up.. and gauge her reaction. This lets her know that you are more than "platonic" man.. and that you are a sexual being.. and may arouse her curiousity and once the mind is engaged.. often times the body follows. Stimulate a persons mind, and you will arouse them as a whole. This is particulary true for women..
yet works quite well with men too (yeah!!). As far as it being the "right" thing to do.. It really depends upon the people involved, and the motivation behind it. Are you truly attracted to this person? You have a great friendship, similar mindsets, fantastic conversations.. but do you wanna shag? If so, just because it is possible.. or because you have true desire for this person? Consider that before engaging a woman... even if it is opportune.. doesn't always mean that it should be pursued. Unless of course, it is a woman with a similar mindset that is just looking to expand the friendship to include sex.. but not deep emotional involvement..
Yikes.. it can all be so confusing. There are so many "what ifs" and possiblities. I think I may be rambling on again..
As far as the mother wanting to get past the "Eddie Haskel" appearance.. what a smart woman she is!! He appears to have morals.. and obviously has manners.. but can he be intimate. I don't mean sexually.. I mean having the ability to build intimate relationships. If he is uncomfortable establishing a first name basis with someone, who is requesting this of him.. that is probably what the mom is thinking. Perhaps he is just respecting his elders.. perhaps it is so ingrained in him that he will never call her anything other than Mrs. XXXXX.. or maybe he has trouble building and maintaining an intimate relationship with others. Tough call.. only time will tell.
Wallyball.. how fun!! So.. uhm.. what specifically do you work on? What is the motivation of working out for you? To get into shape? To maintain? Build muscle? Lift weights or aeorobic?
Hard body, or just because it feels good?
Of course, there are obvious signs that a woman is only interested in a platonic relationship.. that being mainly if the opportunity presents itself, and she gives you clear "no" signals.
If she is hesitant, or unsure.. odds are she has some latent attraction or curiousity and is afraid to act upon it.. because it will change the friendship.. or won't be reciprical. Women oft times have the mindset that most men will "do" anything that moves.. so they might be afraid that the guy is just lonely or horny.. and while sex is easy, relationships are not.
If a guy is attracted to a woman, and a relationship is possible.. it is not that they are obligated to tell her. There are subtle ways to incorporate a conversation that will let you know where you stand.. without jeopardizing the friendship if it is not something she would want to pursue. Mainly just having conversations about sexual things.. Kinks and such. This is always a fun conversation to have... although there are people that would be highly uncomfortable even discussing sex (these people scare me..btw.. I have never had much respect for people who are willing to have sex, but are afraid to discuss it). Bring small things up.. and gauge her reaction. This lets her know that you are more than "platonic" man.. and that you are a sexual being.. and may arouse her curiousity and once the mind is engaged.. often times the body follows. Stimulate a persons mind, and you will arouse them as a whole. This is particulary true for women..
yet works quite well with men too (yeah!!). As far as it being the "right" thing to do.. It really depends upon the people involved, and the motivation behind it. Are you truly attracted to this person? You have a great friendship, similar mindsets, fantastic conversations.. but do you wanna shag? If so, just because it is possible.. or because you have true desire for this person? Consider that before engaging a woman... even if it is opportune.. doesn't always mean that it should be pursued. Unless of course, it is a woman with a similar mindset that is just looking to expand the friendship to include sex.. but not deep emotional involvement..
Yikes.. it can all be so confusing. There are so many "what ifs" and possiblities. I think I may be rambling on again..
As far as the mother wanting to get past the "Eddie Haskel" appearance.. what a smart woman she is!! He appears to have morals.. and obviously has manners.. but can he be intimate. I don't mean sexually.. I mean having the ability to build intimate relationships. If he is uncomfortable establishing a first name basis with someone, who is requesting this of him.. that is probably what the mom is thinking. Perhaps he is just respecting his elders.. perhaps it is so ingrained in him that he will never call her anything other than Mrs. XXXXX.. or maybe he has trouble building and maintaining an intimate relationship with others. Tough call.. only time will tell.
Wallyball.. how fun!! So.. uhm.. what specifically do you work on? What is the motivation of working out for you? To get into shape? To maintain? Build muscle? Lift weights or aeorobic?
Hard body, or just because it feels good?
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No, cyberpoet, I haven't waited too long. I had a nice guy for several years, until he realized that he didn't want a committed relationship anymore, so I guess in that sense, he changed from being a nice guy? Maybe not, because I don't believe that hurting me was intentional.
I guess to me a nice guy is one who is honest, and yes, maybe even sometimes when it is to point out flaws (as long as it is not maliciously so). A nice guy to me is someone who respects me and himself for what we each have to offer, for what we could be together, and for what we are apart from each other. Romantic, intelligent, and yes, definitely a bit michevious at times. I also want someone who wants to better themselves, and who encourages me to do the same. Like, I know I am a bit overweight right now, but I have been working out daily for two months now to work on that... I would want someone to love me for who I am, but also honest enough to encourage me to continue this! So often we stop doing this when we have a significant someone. Well, at least I have in the past. And, most important, honest about what they want... I want marriage and kids one of these days. I am not at the point in my life where I want to date simply to date... If it comes to a point where the relationship is not heading in the direction I am looking for, I will end it. I would hope that a nice guy would do the same! And be straight forward with their future desires too.
I suppose my problem starts with being a hopeless romantic, looking for a fairy tale in this reality of ours. It continues with living in the middle of nowhere, which I love except for the lack of potentials (or at least making the door-to-door search a bit more difficult, lol). Am I just asking for to much?
Cyberguy, as for "obligations to friends", I wouldn't say that its an obligation. I think one has to weigh the situation... Are the feelings beyond a friendship or feeling close to someone when without a significant other? What kind of friendship is it? Things like that. If your instinct tells you there is something serious possible, you need to decide if this chance is one you need to take, not as an obligation to her, but perhaps to yourself. Does this make sense? My thoughts make more sense in my head than they do right know in writing, lol... I feel like I have just written senseless rambling...
I guess to me a nice guy is one who is honest, and yes, maybe even sometimes when it is to point out flaws (as long as it is not maliciously so). A nice guy to me is someone who respects me and himself for what we each have to offer, for what we could be together, and for what we are apart from each other. Romantic, intelligent, and yes, definitely a bit michevious at times. I also want someone who wants to better themselves, and who encourages me to do the same. Like, I know I am a bit overweight right now, but I have been working out daily for two months now to work on that... I would want someone to love me for who I am, but also honest enough to encourage me to continue this! So often we stop doing this when we have a significant someone. Well, at least I have in the past. And, most important, honest about what they want... I want marriage and kids one of these days. I am not at the point in my life where I want to date simply to date... If it comes to a point where the relationship is not heading in the direction I am looking for, I will end it. I would hope that a nice guy would do the same! And be straight forward with their future desires too.
I suppose my problem starts with being a hopeless romantic, looking for a fairy tale in this reality of ours. It continues with living in the middle of nowhere, which I love except for the lack of potentials (or at least making the door-to-door search a bit more difficult, lol). Am I just asking for to much?
Cyberguy, as for "obligations to friends", I wouldn't say that its an obligation. I think one has to weigh the situation... Are the feelings beyond a friendship or feeling close to someone when without a significant other? What kind of friendship is it? Things like that. If your instinct tells you there is something serious possible, you need to decide if this chance is one you need to take, not as an obligation to her, but perhaps to yourself. Does this make sense? My thoughts make more sense in my head than they do right know in writing, lol... I feel like I have just written senseless rambling...
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To all the ladies here.
There are nice guys out there. I am beginning to think not as many as i used to believe there are. I belive the nice ones will stand behind thier moral convictions and will treat their lady right. I am a firm believer that actions speak louder then words, either in a good way or a bad way. And once you have spoken with your actions, especially in a bad way, you will have a much harder time trying to get her to believe the good actions.
Jazey I belive I am one of those true and honest guys. As a human we all make mistakes, or acts of poor judgement. But Fi those acts are minimal compared to the acts of kindness and love for you then those acts can be viewed as human error. I for one, never want the one I love to be afriad of where I am if I am later from work, if I go out with the guys, or even if I have to go out of town for business. Trust is a big issue with me and I think that it has to be the same for both people in a relationship.
There are nice guys out there. I am beginning to think not as many as i used to believe there are. I belive the nice ones will stand behind thier moral convictions and will treat their lady right. I am a firm believer that actions speak louder then words, either in a good way or a bad way. And once you have spoken with your actions, especially in a bad way, you will have a much harder time trying to get her to believe the good actions.
Jazey I belive I am one of those true and honest guys. As a human we all make mistakes, or acts of poor judgement. But Fi those acts are minimal compared to the acts of kindness and love for you then those acts can be viewed as human error. I for one, never want the one I love to be afriad of where I am if I am later from work, if I go out with the guys, or even if I have to go out of town for business. Trust is a big issue with me and I think that it has to be the same for both people in a relationship.
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So complicated, I guess it all comes down to following your gut and respecting her, but giving her the opportunity without making her too uncomfortable.
In my particular case, we were actually friends for about a year around a decade ago when she was involved with someone else. Then we lost touch, had other relationships, and a few months ago I looked her up, not really expecting her to be around, much less available.
We've gotten to be better friends than we were back then, talking or e-mailing a few times a week and getting together to do things occasionally. I swear I get a buzz just from being near her. We talk a lot about relationships; past ones, what we're looking for, etc., but nothing overtly sexual. I know I should pursue this, if for no other reason than to determine that it's not going to happen and look elsewhere. I just need to find some of those subtle ways to feel her out
As far as working out CC, I started about six months ago doing both weight work and aerobic, mainly to get in shape. At this point, I've lost around 15-20 pounds and I'm pretty happy with my weight/body fat percentage, but would like to get more muscle and definition.
My Lady Deanna, your words are intelligent, appreciated, and quite far from rambling. A good relationship is hard to find and even more difficult to maintain. Do what you enjoy and don't be surprised if there are nice guys there doing the same
In my particular case, we were actually friends for about a year around a decade ago when she was involved with someone else. Then we lost touch, had other relationships, and a few months ago I looked her up, not really expecting her to be around, much less available.
We've gotten to be better friends than we were back then, talking or e-mailing a few times a week and getting together to do things occasionally. I swear I get a buzz just from being near her. We talk a lot about relationships; past ones, what we're looking for, etc., but nothing overtly sexual. I know I should pursue this, if for no other reason than to determine that it's not going to happen and look elsewhere. I just need to find some of those subtle ways to feel her out
As far as working out CC, I started about six months ago doing both weight work and aerobic, mainly to get in shape. At this point, I've lost around 15-20 pounds and I'm pretty happy with my weight/body fat percentage, but would like to get more muscle and definition.
My Lady Deanna, your words are intelligent, appreciated, and quite far from rambling. A good relationship is hard to find and even more difficult to maintain. Do what you enjoy and don't be surprised if there are nice guys there doing the same
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good guys
MR
You of all people should know about the lack of trust issue....and
you make a very good point...trust is a definate key to ANY
relationship...once you've lost that, it's so hard to get it back...
Thanks for the wise words Baby..
MR
You of all people should know about the lack of trust issue....and
you make a very good point...trust is a definate key to ANY
relationship...once you've lost that, it's so hard to get it back...
Thanks for the wise words Baby..
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jazey_43
Yes sweetheart I do know what you have been through. I know how hard it is to get the trust back after being hurt so badly. But the right person will earn it. And you will know it is right in your heart again. Someone will touch your heart again and you will trust again. And I pray that that person does not tear it away like the one who did you so wrong
Yes sweetheart I do know what you have been through. I know how hard it is to get the trust back after being hurt so badly. But the right person will earn it. And you will know it is right in your heart again. Someone will touch your heart again and you will trust again. And I pray that that person does not tear it away like the one who did you so wrong
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nice guy's are boring
i think the reason why us nice guys finish last is cause most women assume that just because we are nice , it also means that most likely we are also boring ,am i right ? but really we are not , at least not all of us,
nice guy's can be just as fun and exciting like the badboy,
but with a plus cause we dont end up being the worst problem in a woman's life, cause there's more to life than having a pain in the ass badboy boyfriend who might excite a woman for 15 minutes give or take and be a pain in ass afterwards, but hey some women i guess loves it when there man treats them like a piece of dirt. me , i like to treat a woman with love , respect ,and
lots of good sex.
i think the reason why us nice guys finish last is cause most women assume that just because we are nice , it also means that most likely we are also boring ,am i right ? but really we are not , at least not all of us,
nice guy's can be just as fun and exciting like the badboy,
but with a plus cause we dont end up being the worst problem in a woman's life, cause there's more to life than having a pain in the ass badboy boyfriend who might excite a woman for 15 minutes give or take and be a pain in ass afterwards, but hey some women i guess loves it when there man treats them like a piece of dirt. me , i like to treat a woman with love , respect ,and
lots of good sex.
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here here. I am also one fo those good guys but can be a little naughty when I have to be. But I also [prefer to treat my women with love, affection and most of all respect. Lots of great sex is just an added bonus
here here. I am also one fo those good guys but can be a little naughty when I have to be. But I also [prefer to treat my women with love, affection and most of all respect. Lots of great sex is just an added bonus
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~just my thoughts...
*reads and has to say this*
Nice guys dont always finish last...
Some may find a woman who loves them for who they are...some may find a woman who appreciates all the lil things...some may love the fact that a man remembers one lil thing that was said and makes that lil thing come true...whether be a letter...a word...a simple thing like roses that a woman has never ever received before....and some woman are just blind. Some never see what they have ...what a wonderful thing it is to have a man who is sensitive and cares what she feels...some never see how wonderful it is to have a man who cares so deeply he would do anything for her.....how rare it is to have a man care for them and not be afraid to show it in any way necessary. Some woman dont know how to or choose not to let go of the past and let the future in...and let that one man who loves them totally and unconditionally in....i have learned that you cant hold on to past hurt forever...you have to move on and keep going...dont close off to love and letting someone love you...letting yourself love them....you will be forever lonely and lose the best man you could have in your life before you know it and when you realize it its to late.....soooooo my point is...nice men dont have to finish last....its just the simple fact that some women need to stop being so blind.
*reads and has to say this*
Nice guys dont always finish last...
Some may find a woman who loves them for who they are...some may find a woman who appreciates all the lil things...some may love the fact that a man remembers one lil thing that was said and makes that lil thing come true...whether be a letter...a word...a simple thing like roses that a woman has never ever received before....and some woman are just blind. Some never see what they have ...what a wonderful thing it is to have a man who is sensitive and cares what she feels...some never see how wonderful it is to have a man who cares so deeply he would do anything for her.....how rare it is to have a man care for them and not be afraid to show it in any way necessary. Some woman dont know how to or choose not to let go of the past and let the future in...and let that one man who loves them totally and unconditionally in....i have learned that you cant hold on to past hurt forever...you have to move on and keep going...dont close off to love and letting someone love you...letting yourself love them....you will be forever lonely and lose the best man you could have in your life before you know it and when you realize it its to late.....soooooo my point is...nice men dont have to finish last....its just the simple fact that some women need to stop being so blind.
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