Why are Conservatives so obsessed with race?

[dkovic77]

By contrast by the way, try being an old fashioned anti-abortion pro-life low tax antisocialism Democrat today. You will be thrown out of that party faster than you can say traitor. We actually have the nuanced debates on the Republican side of the aisle, or the conservative side of the aisle, depending on how you want to argue it. I don't always agree with other conservatives. Other conservatives don't always agree with me. I certainly don't agree with the Republican party every time, or even most of the time. But that doesn't make the next guy any less conservative or any less a Republican. It simply means that we disagree on a point. You don't have that nuanced debate as a whole on the liberal side. You used to. You don't anymore.

Debates? Nuance?

I watched them all… everyone tiptoed around the Cheeto.

 

[JaySecrets]

No, I just don't like people with power who use that power to monetize that power and create a system where they are making money out of the American political system, when that system was supposed to represent the people and they were supposed to be public servants. I don't like thieves.

Or traitors. I fought for this country to defend this country against people like Joe Biden.

 

[dkovic77]

No, I just don't like people with power who use that power to monetize that power and create a system where they are making money out of the American political system, when that system was supposed to represent the people and they were supposed to be public servants. I don't like thieves.

So you don’t like your nominee. Got it.

 

[JaySecrets]

So you don’t like your nominee. Got it.

Last I checked, Joe, Biden has been taking the paychecks from the presidency as well as doing all kinds of stuff with China and with Ukraine and with all kinds of other foreign entities in order to enrich himself and his family. Meanwhile, Donald Trump didn't even accept a paycheck as president. Every paycheck he took went to charity. I don't remember any president doing that. So one enriches himself on the presidency and the vice presidency, the other one gives the paycheck away. You do the math. But again, I don't support him as a president as a person. I like the people around him that are conservative who are the voices in his ears who end up being the ones that help shape the policies he supports. This is a nuanced argument. I don't support the man. I support the policies that influence him as president so long as he follows those policies.

 

[JaySecrets]

https://www.humancoalition.org/2023/03/27/planned-parenthood-rooted-in-racism/

https://yellowstripsdeadarmadillos.org/2021/10/19/why-are-white-liberals-so-obsessed-with-race/

https://www.wsj.com/video/thomas-sowell-on-liberals-and-race/84856A6B-9CAA-4C22-BE53-BC8598738A26

https://www.google.com/search?clien...ate=ive&vld=cid:fa3983e5,vid:vaEYVlGu1ng,st:0

I could give more. Lots more. But this suffices, I think, to show how much bs the premise of this thread is. I don't even need to give commentary. I'll just let the black voices here speak for themselves.

Oh, per your own rules, if you liberals attack them for what they say, you are racist.

A reposting of evidence, just in case you missed it in the back and forth.

 

[dkovic77]

Last I checked, Joe, Biden has been taking the paychecks from the presidency as well as doing all kinds of stuff with China and with Ukraine and with all kinds of other foreign entities in order to enrich himself and his family. Meanwhile, Donald Trump didn't even accept a paycheck as president. Every paycheck he took went to charity. I don't remember any president doing that. So one enriches himself on the presidency and the vice presidency, the other one gives the paycheck away. You do the math. But again, I don't support him as a president as a person. I like the people around him that are conservative who are the voices in his ears who end up being the ones that help shape the policies he supports. This is a nuanced argument. I don't support the man. I support the policies that influence him as president so long as he follows those policies.

He could give his checks to charity .., but it wasn’t all of them… because he was raking it in otherwise.

 

[JaySecrets]

Sometimes satire comedy says more than a whole diatribe could deliver.

A reposting of some great satire that makes the point well.

 

[JaySecrets]

He could give his checks to charity .., but it wasn’t all of them… because he was raking it in otherwise.

Check the records. It was all of them

 

[JaySecrets]

THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH
ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
CAROL SWAIN
When you think about racial equality and civil rights, which political party comes to mind? The
Republicans? Or, the Democrats? Most people would probably say the Democrats. But this
answer is incorrect.
Since its founding in 1829, the Democratic Party has fought against every major civil rights
initiative, and has a long history of discrimination.
The Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, opposed Reconstruction,
founded the Ku Klux Klan, imposed segregation, perpetrated lynchings, and fought against
the civil rights acts of the 1950s and 1960s.
In contrast, the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an anti-slavery party. Its mission
was to stop the spread of slavery into the new western territories with the aim of abolishing it
entirely. This effort, however, was dealt a major blow by the Supreme Court. In the 1857 case
Dred Scott v. Sandford, the court ruled that slaves aren’t citizens; they’re property. The seven
justices who voted in favor of slavery? All Democrats. The two justices who dissented? Both
Republicans.
The slavery question was, of course, ultimately resolved by a bloody civil war. The commander-
in-chief during that war was the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln – the man who
freed the slaves.
Six days after the Confederate army surrendered, John Wilkes Booth, a Democrat, assassinated
President Lincoln. Lincoln’s vice president, a Democrat named Andrew Johnson, assumed
the presidency. But Johnson adamantly opposed Lincoln’s plan to integrate the newly freed
slaves into the South’s economic and social order.
Johnson and the Democratic Party were unified in their opposition to the 13th Amendment,
which abolished slavery; the 14th Amendment, which gave blacks citizenship; and the
15th Amendment, which gave blacks the vote. All three passed only because of universal
Republican support.
During the era of Reconstruction, federal troops stationed in the south helped secure rights for
the newly freed slaves. Hundreds of black men were elected to southern state legislatures as
Republicans, and 22 black Republicans served in the US Congress by 1900. The Democrats
did not elect a black man to Congress until 1935.
But after Reconstruction ended, when the federal troops went home, Democrats roared back into power in the South. They quickly reestablished white supremacy across the region with
measures like black codes – laws that restricted the ability of blacks to own property and run
businesses. And they imposed poll taxes and literacy tests, used to subvert the black citizen’s
right to vote.
And how was all of this enforced? By terror -- much of it instigated by the Ku Klux Klan,
founded by a Democrat, Nathan Bedford Forrest.
As historian Eric Foner - himself a Democrat - notes:
“In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party.”
President Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, shared many views with the Klan. He re-segregated
many federal agencies, and even screened the first movie ever played at the White House -
the racist film “The Birth of a Nation,” originally entitled “The Clansman.”
A few decades later, the only serious congressional opposition to the landmark Civil Rights Act
of 1964 came from Democrats.
Eighty percent of Republicans in Congress supported the bill. Less than 70 percent of
Democrats did. Democratic senators filibustered the bill for 75 days, until Republicans
mustered the few extra votes needed to break the logjam.
And when all of their efforts to enslave blacks, keep them enslaved, and then keep them from
voting had failed, the Democrats came up with a new strategy: If black people are going to
vote, they might as well vote for Democrats. As President Lyndon Johnson was purported to
have said about the Civil Rights Act, “I’ll have them n*****s voting Democrat for two hundred
years.”
So now, the Democratic Party prospers on the votes of the very people it has spent much of
its history oppressing.
Democrats falsely claim that the Republican Party is the villain, when in reality it’s the failed
policies of the Democratic Party that have kept blacks down. Massive government welfare
has decimated the black family. Opposition to school choice has kept them trapped in failing
schools. Politically correct policing has left black neighborhoods defenseless against violent
crime.
So, when you think about racial equality and civil rights, which political party should come to
mind?
I’m Carol Swain, professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University, for Prager
University.


A little history lesson for you.

And finally a reposting of more history and evidence for you to consider.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No more than white lives.

To me, your life doesn't matter much. The world will be a better place when you toddle off the mortal coil.

 

[dkovic77]

Check the records. It was all of them

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...rump-tax-returns-salary-donation/11132712002/

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Or traitors. I fought for this country to defend this country against people like Joe Biden.

LMFAO.....if that is true, then you were fighting for the wrong reasons....

 

[JaySecrets]

And with that I have said pretty much everything that could possibly be said without resorting to being extremely redundant and exhausting myself. I've given you the evidence, I've pointed out your hypocrisy, and I have shown you to be frauds. Once again you have exposed yourselves as the hypocritical racists that you are. You don't realize you've done that because you have selective reading and hearing. Up for those of us who are sane. We actually recognize what you just did. So thank you again for making my points for me. And I will see you again next time. I feel like you need to be exposed for the lying hypocrites that you are. Have a wonderful day.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

And with that I have said pretty much everything that could possibly be said without resorting to being extremely redundant and exhausting myself. I've given you the evidence, I've pointed out your hypocrisy, and I have shown you to be frauds. Once again you have exposed yourselves as the hypocritical racists that you are. You don't realize you've done that because you have selective reading and hearing. Up for those of us who are sane. We actually recognize what you just did. So thank you again for making my points for me. And I will see you again next time. I feel like you need to be exposed for the lying hypocrites that you are. Have a wonderful day.

Then fuck off out of here, no one will care.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

And with that I have said pretty much everything that could possibly be said without resorting to being extremely redundant and exhausting myself. I've given you the evidence, I've pointed out your hypocrisy, and I have shown you to be frauds. Once again you have exposed yourselves as the hypocritical racists that you are. You don't realize you've done that because you have selective reading and hearing. Up for those of us who are sane. We actually recognize what you just did. So thank you again for making my points for me. And I will see you again next time. I feel like you need to be exposed for the lying hypocrites that you are. Have a wonderful day.

White people have it easier in America than black people.

 

[RoryN]

You all have the racist triple posting now. Nice work!

 

[RobDownSouth]

No more than white lives.

I believe the correct MAGA phrasing would be "Much less than white lives".

Any time someone reflexively bleats out "all lives matter!", it's important to point out that the unsaid context is "All lives matter, just not as much as white lives".

 

[MajorRewrite]

Wow. When loons get on a roll, they are really something.

 

[JaySecrets]

​

https://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/2/22/Ku-Klux-Klan-By-Democrats-For-Democrats-600x600.jpg/200px-Ku-Klux-Klan-By-Democrats-For-Democrats-600x600.jpgThe Klan was founded as the militant terrorist arm of the Democrat Party.[1]

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the traditional militant terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.[2] It was founded by Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest along with James R. Crowe and Frank O. McCord (all Democrats) in 1865, December 24, in Pulaski, Tennessee, and became known as "the invisible empire of the South" in which members represented themselves as ghosts of the Confederate dead returning to terrorize African Americans and Republicans (about 1300 white Republicans were killed and lynched by KKK), as confirmed also by Democrat historian Eric Foner.[3][4][5][6][7][8] In 2014, ironically, the Klan recognized diversity and opened its doors to Jews, homosexuals, blacks and people of Hispanic origin.[9]

The Klan had three incarnations in the USA. Several prominent Democrats were members of the KKK including Democrat Robert Byrd, who was a U.S. Senator from West Virginia for more than 50 years and who had led his local KKK chapter, and Democrat Hugo Black, who was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court by FDR and became the Justice most hostile to classroom prayer and Christianity in public life. Despite the Democrat-KKK connection, however, liberals (who falsely claim that the pre-1964 Democrats were a "conservative" party when they were mostly left-leaning New Dealers, including a number of Southern segregationists) similarly falsely claim the KKK to be a "right-wing" organization when the Klan supported gun control[11][12] and opposed school choice.[13]

The Klan beginning in the 1860s was a violent effort by white Southern Democrats to fight Republican Reconstruction efforts and recognizing full citizenship rights of Blacks after the Civil War. Reconstruction was ended as a political compromise to resolve the exceedingly close presidential election of 1876. Owing to this, the Klan Democrats often targeted those belonging to the Republican Party with death.

The second Klan flourished nationwide for a few years in the 1920s as state and district organizers profited handsomely by signing up millions of members, selling them distinctive white-robe costumes. The Klan voiced strong support for prohibition, opposed sexual immorality and promoted racism, anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism and immigration restriction. Dramatic scandals inside the organization and lack of organizational structure caused the Klan to collapse quickly in the late 1920s. By 1928 it was practically defunct.

The third Klan comprised unrelated hate groups that sprang up in the South in the 1960s to fight integration, but it largely fell apart with the defeat of President Jimmy Carter in 1980.[14]





A little more fun history for you on the way out. Enjoy the agony of Truth.

 

[RoryN]

[that Democrat Klan crap again]

Not the same Dem party as today.

No Dems or liberals currently support the Klan. People on your side do, though. Fact.

Thanks for playing!

 

[MajorRewrite]

​

https://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/2/22/Ku-Klux-Klan-By-Democrats-For-Democrats-600x600.jpg/200px-Ku-Klux-Klan-By-Democrats-For-Democrats-600x600.jpgThe Klan was founded as the militant terrorist arm of the Democrat Party.[1]

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the traditional militant terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.[2] It was founded by Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest along with James R. Crowe and Frank O. McCord (all Democrats) in 1865, December 24, in Pulaski, Tennessee, and became known as "the invisible empire of the South" in which members represented themselves as ghosts of the Confederate dead returning to terrorize African Americans and Republicans (about 1300 white Republicans were killed and lynched by KKK), as confirmed also by Democrat historian Eric Foner.[3][4][5][6][7][8] In 2014, ironically, the Klan recognized diversity and opened its doors to Jews, homosexuals, blacks and people of Hispanic origin.[9]

The Klan had three incarnations in the USA. Several prominent Democrats were members of the KKK including Democrat Robert Byrd, who was a U.S. Senator from West Virginia for more than 50 years and who had led his local KKK chapter, and Democrat Hugo Black, who was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court by FDR and became the Justice most hostile to classroom prayer and Christianity in public life. Despite the Democrat-KKK connection, however, liberals (who falsely claim that the pre-1964 Democrats were a "conservative" party when they were mostly left-leaning New Dealers, including a number of Southern segregationists) similarly falsely claim the KKK to be a "right-wing" organization when the Klan supported gun control[11][12] and opposed school choice.[13]

The Klan beginning in the 1860s was a violent effort by white Southern Democrats to fight Republican Reconstruction efforts and recognizing full citizenship rights of Blacks after the Civil War. Reconstruction was ended as a political compromise to resolve the exceedingly close presidential election of 1876. Owing to this, the Klan Democrats often targeted those belonging to the Republican Party with death.

The second Klan flourished nationwide for a few years in the 1920s as state and district organizers profited handsomely by signing up millions of members, selling them distinctive white-robe costumes. The Klan voiced strong support for prohibition, opposed sexual immorality and promoted racism, anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism and immigration restriction. Dramatic scandals inside the organization and lack of organizational structure caused the Klan to collapse quickly in the late 1920s. By 1928 it was practically defunct.

The third Klan comprised unrelated hate groups that sprang up in the South in the 1960s to fight integration, but it largely fell apart with the defeat of President Jimmy Carter in 1980.[14]





A little more fun history for you on the way out. Enjoy the agony of Truth.

When Nixon ran for President, he recruited the segregationist Dixiecrats to support him. They did because he promised to not push the desegregation policies the Democratic Party was spearheading.

Those same segregationist Dixiecrats form the core of today’s Republican Party.

Just a history lesson for you on your way out.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

​

https://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/2/22/Ku-Klux-Klan-By-Democrats-For-Democrats-600x600.jpg/200px-Ku-Klux-Klan-By-Democrats-For-Democrats-600x600.jpgThe Klan was founded as the militant terrorist arm of the Democrat Party.[1]

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the traditional militant terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.[2] It was founded by Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest along with James R. Crowe and Frank O. McCord (all Democrats) in 1865, December 24, in Pulaski, Tennessee, and became known as "the invisible empire of the South" in which members represented themselves as ghosts of the Confederate dead returning to terrorize African Americans and Republicans (about 1300 white Republicans were killed and lynched by KKK), as confirmed also by Democrat historian Eric Foner.[3][4][5][6][7][8] In 2014, ironically, the Klan recognized diversity and opened its doors to Jews, homosexuals, blacks and people of Hispanic origin.[9]

The Klan had three incarnations in the USA. Several prominent Democrats were members of the KKK including Democrat Robert Byrd, who was a U.S. Senator from West Virginia for more than 50 years and who had led his local KKK chapter, and Democrat Hugo Black, who was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court by FDR and became the Justice most hostile to classroom prayer and Christianity in public life. Despite the Democrat-KKK connection, however, liberals (who falsely claim that the pre-1964 Democrats were a "conservative" party when they were mostly left-leaning New Dealers, including a number of Southern segregationists) similarly falsely claim the KKK to be a "right-wing" organization when the Klan supported gun control[11][12] and opposed school choice.[13]

The Klan beginning in the 1860s was a violent effort by white Southern Democrats to fight Republican Reconstruction efforts and recognizing full citizenship rights of Blacks after the Civil War. Reconstruction was ended as a political compromise to resolve the exceedingly close presidential election of 1876. Owing to this, the Klan Democrats often targeted those belonging to the Republican Party with death.

The second Klan flourished nationwide for a few years in the 1920s as state and district organizers profited handsomely by signing up millions of members, selling them distinctive white-robe costumes. The Klan voiced strong support for prohibition, opposed sexual immorality and promoted racism, anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism and immigration restriction. Dramatic scandals inside the organization and lack of organizational structure caused the Klan to collapse quickly in the late 1920s. By 1928 it was practically defunct.

The third Klan comprised unrelated hate groups that sprang up in the South in the 1960s to fight integration, but it largely fell apart with the defeat of President Jimmy Carter in 1980.[14]





A little more fun history for you on the way out. Enjoy the agony of Truth.

No one disagrees with the fact that the Democratic Party was racist for much of its history. When the Democrats started supporting civil rights in the 1960s, the Republican Party pounced on the opportunity to pander to racist voters. They've been using that strategy since Ronald Reagan.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Or traitors. I fought for this country to defend this country against people like Joe Biden.

https://i.imgur.com/a9tzZzn.jpeg

 

[Philthy_Phil]

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/85ddae_6cae5dbea5394c94b60abcd85d3228ac~mv2.jpeg/v1/fit/w_400%2Ch_519%2Cal_c%2Cq_80,enc_auto/file.jpg

 

[RoryN]

I'll pick a Donald Trump any day. Not because I trust the man, but because the conservatives that are around him support policies that I agree with. And Trump being a pragmatist and pushing whatever agenda is most beneficial for him getting his agenda through, will push those policies through that I agree with. Or at least do so with far more regularity than anybody else out there. Like the manner hate him. He at least keeps his word. So no, I'm not a Trump supporter. I simply support the policies of those around him who are conservatives.

Translation: you love Trump and support him 100%, but you don't want to be branded a Trump supporter.

We know. And, just like the rest of your Deplorable friends have already been told, we see right through you. You will own that shame for life - we'll make sure of it.