Why are Conservatives so obsessed with race?

[ll74]

You can pick through any groups threads and, erasing context, do that. I can say with almost certainty that a good portion of those you cited are directly related to the BLM movement, a movement spearheaded by an organization that even a huge number of black Americans decried and opposed as destructive, violent, racist, and illegitimate. Those are conservatives pointing out the consequences of your side's obsession with skin color. The rest are those who actual conservatives, as defined as one who actually holds to conservative values and principles, regularly reject and condemn. We actually opposed Obama, but on the basis of ideology. We had and have the same issues with the Clinton's and Bidens of this world, and are equally as vocal. We support a Ben Carson or a Larry Elder because we agree with their ideology, as we do with a Mike Pence. Because we don't care about the skin color and we don't see any racial or any other people or identity group as a group or as monolithic. That's your side's gig. I again point you to the parody in the Babylon Bee post, as well as the articles, papers, and videos posted on here that are of, from, and by people of color talking about you.

I don't even need to start wasting energy pulling up the times you and yours have attacked me and other conservatives, when we have been talking only policy and ideology, by bringing skin color into it when it was never even implied by us. They are redundant and so ubiquitous that all anyone need do is read your threads as you start responding to conservatives. And what you have said about black and Hispanic conservatives for being POC and conservative.... Oh, you have no grounds to even speak on this subject.

Do black lives matter?

 

[RoryN]

You can pick through any groups threads and, erasing context, do that.

In what context is "colored fool" not racist?

Let us know, racist.

 

[JaySecrets]

Do black lives matter?

Yes black lives matter.... and white lives, and Hispanic lives, and Asian lives.... dare I say it.... ALL LIVES MATTER!

The issue I, other conservatives, and much of the black community have with BLM is that the organization was never about black lives. The founders of the movement said, and I quote, "We are trained Marxists." It was about using skin color to divide people, to overthrow capitalism, to undo the traditional family, and, as a very convenient side gig, to make the founders very rich in the process, using public funding to do it. This isn't theory, this is from their own speeches, documents, web sites (one was actually changed once they were called out on it), and history. They were doing violent riots, burning down cities, looting, and doing violence to whites and to blacks who opposed them. They were attacking cops and smashing and overturning cop cars. They were destroying public and private property. That isn't a racial justice movement. That is a violent mob. And it was led by the organization BLM. THAT is what we oppose.

 

[JaySecrets]

In what context is "colored fool" not racist?

Let us know, racist.

Don't quote one part of what I said. Again, I said we oppose, as conservatives, because we value ALL LIVES and don't see people as monolithic, any racist language. That is clear in what I said. You lifted one line out of context to make it say what you want it to and what you hear. But then again, that's what you guys always do. That's why you keep getting called out. You have very selective hearing.

 

[RoryN]

Don't quote one part of what I said.

I'm sorry you don't like being quoted, snowflake.

Let us know how else we can spare your tender feelings and make this thread your safe space.

You lifted one line out of context to make it say what you want it to and what you hear.

What context did it lack, Deplorable? Be specific. We can go over it again if you'd like.

 

[ll74]

Yes black lives matter.... and white lives, and Hispanic lives, and Asian lives.... dare I say it.... ALL LIVES MATTER!

That's the expected response.

Thanks

It's always odd how those on the right need to say BLM and not black lives matter.

 

[JaySecrets]

That's the expected response.

Thanks

It's always odd how those on the right need to say BLM and not black lives matter.

Funny how those on the left need to focus on BLACK lives, as though black people can't get on without their help (read condescending savior complex) instead of just acknowledging ALL lives matter, regardless of skin color. But you claim it's conservatives obsessed with skin tone? You just disproved your own argument. Thank you.

 

[JaySecrets]

I'm sorry you don't like being quoted, snowflake.

Let us know how else we can spare your tender feelings and make this thread your safe space.



What context did it lack, Deplorable? Be specific. We can go over it again if you'd like.

You can pick through any groups threads and, erasing context, do that. I can say with almost certainty that a good portion of those you cited are directly related to the BLM movement, a movement spearheaded by an organization that even a huge number of black Americans decried and opposed as destructive, violent, racist, and illegitimate. Those are conservatives pointing out the consequences of your side's obsession with skin color. The rest are those who actual conservatives, as defined as one who actually holds to conservative values and principles, regularly reject and condemn. We actually opposed Obama, but on the basis of ideology. We had and have the same issues with the Clinton's and Bidens of this world, and are equally as vocal. We support a Ben Carson or a Larry Elder because we agree with their ideology, as we do with a Mike Pence. Because we don't care about the skin color and we don't see any racial or any other people or identity group as a group or as monolithic. That's your side's gig. I again point you to the parody in the Babylon Bee post, as well as the articles, papers, and videos posted on here that are of, from, and by people of color talking about you.

I don't even need to start wasting energy pulling up the times you and yours have attacked me and other conservatives, when we have been talking only policy and ideology, by bringing skin color into it when it was never even implied by us. They are redundant and so ubiquitous that all anyone need do is read your threads as you start responding to conservatives. And what you have said about black and Hispanic conservatives for being POC and conservative.... Oh, you have no grounds to even speak on this subject.


That is my full statement. I know you might have difficulty reading, especially when it's not some liberal trope that you used to feed your group think. But that's the full statement. In that statement, I openly state that anything that is racist is condemned by true conservatives. Period. Every group has its crazies. You have your AOC and you're Bernie... And your Hillary. And your Biden. And your Nancy Pelosi In fact, you have a whole host. We have crazies as well. We just condemn ours. And we tell them to shut up. And we don't agree with what they say at all. You made them the mainstream in your party.

 

[icanhelp1]

Do black lives matter?

No more than white lives.

 

[dkovic77]

We just condemn ours. And we tell them to shut up. And we don't agree with what they say at all. You made them the mainstream in your party.

That was just too much like fun. Mainstream. Who is your standard bearer?

Thanks for playing.

 

[JaySecrets]

THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH
ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
CAROL SWAIN
When you think about racial equality and civil rights, which political party comes to mind? The
Republicans? Or, the Democrats? Most people would probably say the Democrats. But this
answer is incorrect.
Since its founding in 1829, the Democratic Party has fought against every major civil rights
initiative, and has a long history of discrimination.
The Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, opposed Reconstruction,
founded the Ku Klux Klan, imposed segregation, perpetrated lynchings, and fought against
the civil rights acts of the 1950s and 1960s.
In contrast, the Republican Party was founded in 1854 as an anti-slavery party. Its mission
was to stop the spread of slavery into the new western territories with the aim of abolishing it
entirely. This effort, however, was dealt a major blow by the Supreme Court. In the 1857 case
Dred Scott v. Sandford, the court ruled that slaves aren’t citizens; they’re property. The seven
justices who voted in favor of slavery? All Democrats. The two justices who dissented? Both
Republicans.
The slavery question was, of course, ultimately resolved by a bloody civil war. The commander-
in-chief during that war was the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln – the man who
freed the slaves.
Six days after the Confederate army surrendered, John Wilkes Booth, a Democrat, assassinated
President Lincoln. Lincoln’s vice president, a Democrat named Andrew Johnson, assumed
the presidency. But Johnson adamantly opposed Lincoln’s plan to integrate the newly freed
slaves into the South’s economic and social order.
Johnson and the Democratic Party were unified in their opposition to the 13th Amendment,
which abolished slavery; the 14th Amendment, which gave blacks citizenship; and the
15th Amendment, which gave blacks the vote. All three passed only because of universal
Republican support.
During the era of Reconstruction, federal troops stationed in the south helped secure rights for
the newly freed slaves. Hundreds of black men were elected to southern state legislatures as
Republicans, and 22 black Republicans served in the US Congress by 1900. The Democrats
did not elect a black man to Congress until 1935.
But after Reconstruction ended, when the federal troops went home, Democrats roared back into power in the South. They quickly reestablished white supremacy across the region with
measures like black codes – laws that restricted the ability of blacks to own property and run
businesses. And they imposed poll taxes and literacy tests, used to subvert the black citizen’s
right to vote.
And how was all of this enforced? By terror -- much of it instigated by the Ku Klux Klan,
founded by a Democrat, Nathan Bedford Forrest.
As historian Eric Foner - himself a Democrat - notes:
“In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party.”
President Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, shared many views with the Klan. He re-segregated
many federal agencies, and even screened the first movie ever played at the White House -
the racist film “The Birth of a Nation,” originally entitled “The Clansman.”
A few decades later, the only serious congressional opposition to the landmark Civil Rights Act
of 1964 came from Democrats.
Eighty percent of Republicans in Congress supported the bill. Less than 70 percent of
Democrats did. Democratic senators filibustered the bill for 75 days, until Republicans
mustered the few extra votes needed to break the logjam.
And when all of their efforts to enslave blacks, keep them enslaved, and then keep them from
voting had failed, the Democrats came up with a new strategy: If black people are going to
vote, they might as well vote for Democrats. As President Lyndon Johnson was purported to
have said about the Civil Rights Act, “I’ll have them n*****s voting Democrat for two hundred
years.”
So now, the Democratic Party prospers on the votes of the very people it has spent much of
its history oppressing.
Democrats falsely claim that the Republican Party is the villain, when in reality it’s the failed
policies of the Democratic Party that have kept blacks down. Massive government welfare
has decimated the black family. Opposition to school choice has kept them trapped in failing
schools. Politically correct policing has left black neighborhoods defenseless against violent
crime.
So, when you think about racial equality and civil rights, which political party should come to
mind?
I’m Carol Swain, professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University, for Prager
University.


A little history lesson for you.

 

[RoryN]

We have crazies as well. We just condemn ours.

Your side put a woman screaming about Jewish space lasers into the House.

Your side elected a President who wondered if we could inject bleach into people to stop a pandemic. And then tried to elect him again.

Your side, on the PB, have touted and celebrated Conservative members who think there was no moon landing, that the Earth is flat, and that it's okay to call African Americans "sheboons" and "n***ers".

You guys don't condemn shit.

 

[dkovic77]

No more than white lives.

Awww, fry boy. Shame it hasn’t been that way, seems it’s been unbalanced for a long time.

 

[JaySecrets]

That was just too much like fun. Mainstream. Who is your standard bearer?

Thanks for playing.

We actually have no standard bearer as you put it. Republicans are pretty split. Some support Trump some oppose him. Some like his policy but hate the man. Some are indifferent. We don't have a monolithic group that support one person or another. We have policies that we support and those who will push those policies forward we support. And by the way, I'm a conservative, not a Republican. There's a difference. I don't trust either party.

 

[JaySecrets]

Your side put a woman screaming about Jewish space lasers into the House.

Your side elected a President who wondered if we could inject bleach into people to stop a pandemic. And then tried to elect him again.

Your side, on the PB, have touted and celebrated users who think there was no moon landing, that the Earth is flat, and that it's okay to call African Americans "sheboons" and "n***ers".

You guys don't condemn shit.

We have kicked all kinds of people out of our circles when they went off the deep end. Your side simply takes people's statements out of context, pushes them as though that's what actually was said, and then demands an apology from them. Your side is just straight up dishonest. I don't trust a word your side has to say.

 

[dkovic77]

We actually have no standard bearer as you put it. Republicans are pretty split. Some support Trump some oppose him. Some like his policy but hate the man. Some are indifferent. We don't have a monolithic group that support one person or another. We have policies that we support and those who will push those policies forward we support. And by the way, I'm a conservative, not a Republican. There's a difference. I don't trust either party.

Ohhhh some. Please do tell. If you tolerate that poor excuse for a front runner, then you are far from a conservative.

 

[RoryN]

When a racist, Deplorable fool keeps your thread at the top...

https://i.imgur.com/bqmtoBB.gif

 

[icanhelp1]

We actually have no standard bearer as you put it. Republicans are pretty split. Some support Trump some oppose him. Some like his policy but hate the man. Some are indifferent. We don't have a monolithic group that support one person or another. We have policies that we support and those who will push those policies forward we support. And by the way, I'm a conservative, not a Republican. There's a difference. I don't trust either party.

My sentiments exactly. Couldn’t have said it better!

 

[JaySecrets]

Ohhhh some. Please do tell. If you tolerate that poor excuse for a front runner, then you are far from a conservative.

I didn't want Trump as the candidate. I actually wanted Scott as the candidate. He is by far one of the best I have seen at explaining conservatism the way Reagan used to be able to. But because Trump takes up all the oxygen in the room, he ends up getting the candidacy. If I have to choose between him and a person who is as horribly corrupt and horribly vile as Joe Biden is, I'll pick a Donald Trump any day. Not because I trust the man, but because the conservatives that are around him support policies that I agree with. And Trump being a pragmatist and pushing whatever agenda is most beneficial for him getting his agenda through, will push those policies through that I agree with. Or at least do so with far more regularity than anybody else out there. Like the manner hate him. He at least keeps his word. So no, I'm not a Trump supporter. I simply support the policies of those around him who are conservatives.

 

[icanhelp1]

We have kicked all kinds of people out of our circles when they went off the deep end. Your side simply takes people's statements out of context, pushes them as though that's what actually was said, and then demands an apology from them. Your side is just straight up dishonest. I don't trust a word your side has to say.

When democrats accuse conservatives or republicans of unethical behavior lift up the rock that Dems live under and you’ll discover they do exactly what they accuse conservatives of doing.

 

[icanhelp1]

Ohhhh some. Please do tell. If you tolerate that poor excuse for a front runner, then you are far from a conservative.

Back at you!

 

[dkovic77]

I didn't want Trump as the candidate. I actually wanted Scott as the candidate. He is by far one of the best I have seen at explaining conservatism the way Reagan used to be able to. But because Trump takes up all the oxygen in the room, he ends up getting the candidacy. If I have to choose between him and a person who is as horribly corrupt and horribly vile as Joe Biden is, I'll pick a Donald Trump any day. Not because I trust the man, but because the conservatives that are around him support policies that I agree with. And Trump being a pragmatist and pushing whatever agenda is most beneficial for him getting his agenda through, will push those policies through that I agree with. Or at least do so with far more regularity than anybody else out there. Like the manner hate him. He at least keeps his word. So no, I'm not a Trump supporter. I simply support the policies of those around him who are conservatives.

Wow, horribly vile. Seems like you do like the Cheeto after all.

 

[JaySecrets]

Ohhhh some. Please do tell. If you tolerate that poor excuse for a front runner, then you are far from a conservative.

By contrast by the way, try being an old fashioned anti-abortion pro-life low tax antisocialism Democrat today. You will be thrown out of that party faster than you can say traitor. We actually have the nuanced debates on the Republican side of the aisle, or the conservative side of the aisle, depending on how you want to argue it. I don't always agree with other conservatives. Other conservatives don't always agree with me. I certainly don't agree with the Republican party every time, or even most of the time. But that doesn't make the next guy any less conservative or any less a Republican. It simply means that we disagree on a point. You don't have that nuanced debate as a whole on the liberal side. You used to. You don't anymore.

 

[dkovic77]

Back at you!

Back at who???

Wayyyyyy too much deep fryer oil for you.

 

[JaySecrets]

Wow, horribly vile. Seems like you do like the Cheeto after all.

No, I just don't like people with power who use that power to monetize that power and create a system where they are making money out of the American political system, when that system was supposed to represent the people and they were supposed to be public servants. I don't like thieves.