Democrats Pretend to Be for Free Speech: NOPE

[SkyBubble]

Just today, Elizabeth Waren was posting that she wants to use her power as a government official to "investigate" Sinclair and Nexstar for making a business decision not to carry Kimmel. California State Senator Scott Wiener wants to break up Sinclair for the same reason.

That's because they believe in free speech, right?

 

[AnomalyLady]

Just today, Elizabeth Waren was posting that she wants to use her power as a government official to "investigate" Sinclair and Nexstar for making a business decision not to carry Kimmel. California State Senator Scott Wiener wants to break up Sinclair for the same reason.

That's because they believe in free speech, right?

Are you saying Kimmel being kicked off the air was free speech?

 

[HisArpy]

Are you saying Kimmel being kicked off the air was free speech?

The Right of anyone to speak their mind is in no way greater than my Right to not give them that opportunity on my broadcast network.

However, investigating my broadcast network for exercising my right to air only the programming I desire, so long as it's lawful, on my broadcast network violates my Right to Free Speech as well infringing upon as my property rights regarding my broadcast network.

 

[AnomalyLady]

The Right of anyone to speak their mind is in no way greater than my Right to not give them that opportunity on my broadcast network.

However, investigating my broadcast network for exercising my right to air only the programming I desire, so long as it's lawful, on my broadcast network violates my Right to Free Speech as well infringing upon as my property rights regarding my broadcast network.

So you don’t have a problem with Kimmel’s right to free speech but you have a problem with what part?

 

[HisArpy]

So you don’t have a problem with Kimmel’s right to free speech but you have a problem with what part?

Kimmel can speak his mind. That's what free speech is all about.

What's missing in the conversation is that NO ONE is "required" to give him a platform while he does it. And not providing that platform isn't a restriction on Kimmel's free speech rights.

Ergo, no free speech issue with Sinclair or Nextel not airing his program or Disney pulling him from the lineup.

My problem begins when Sinclair/Nextel are FORCED to provide the platform. It's been held, and I believe it is correct, that choosing to NOT speak is also "free speech" and compelled speech is Unconstitutional. Forcing the network to broadcast speech the network doesn't agree with, is compelling speech from the network. Which is, as mentioned, Unconstitutional.

Then there's what's called "the bundle of rights" when it comes to private property. It's unequivocal that Sinclair broadcasting has a property interest in their network and what shows they air. When the government "investigates" a network in an effort to "force" that network to air programs it doesn't want to broadcast, not only is that compelled speech, but it also infringes upon the "bundle of rights" that network has over its content because the network is no longer in control of the content. This violates the 5th Amendment takings clause.

 

[AnomalyLady]

Kimmel can speak his mind. That's what free speech is all about.

What's missing in the conversation is that NO ONE is "required" to give him a platform while he does it. And not providing that platform isn't a restriction on Kimmel's free speech rights.

Ergo, no free speech issue with Sinclair or Nextel not airing his program or Disney pulling him from the lineup.

My problem begins when Sinclair/Nextel are FORCED to provide the platform. It's been held, and I believe it is correct, that choosing to NOT speak is also "free speech" and compelled speech is Unconstitutional. Forcing the network to broadcast speech the network doesn't agree with, is compelling speech from the network. Which is, as mentioned, Unconstitutional.

Then there's what's called "the bundle of rights" when it comes to private property. It's unequivocal that Sinclair broadcasting has a property interest in their network and what shows they air. When the government "investigates" a network in an effort to "force" that network to air programs it doesn't want to broadcast, not only is that compelled speech, but it also infringes upon the "bundle of rights" that network has over its content because the network is no longer in control of the content. This violates the 5th Amendment takings clause.

Wow. I didn’t realize the issue was that complex. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Baztrachian]

No, that's misgendering transwomen.

A guy in a dress is a guy in a dress.
A chick with a beard is a chick with a beard.

If that's what makes them happy then so be it.

But pronouns are how I perceive the world around me and fuck them and fuck you if you think you have a right to force me to call this is a woman:

 

[HisArpy]

Wow. I didn’t realize the issue was that complex. Thank you for clarifying.

Legacy media has a vested interested in keeping its viewers dumb and uninformed.

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole; for the government to "investigate" the network to force them to comply, "or else," that's a criminal violation of the law. It's called (pick one) either malicious prosecution or blackmail. Accompanying that is 42 USC Section 1983 civil rights violation for which the person(s) involved can be held personally liable, regardless of governmental immunity, and they potentially could end up in prison under 42 USC Section 292.

 

[AnomalyLady]

Legacy media has a vested interested in keeping its viewers dumb and uninformed.

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole; for the government to "investigate" the network to force them to comply, "or else," that's a criminal violation of the law. It's called (pick one) either malicious prosecution or blackmail. Accompanying that is 42 USC Section 1983 civil rights violation for which the person(s) involved can be held personally liable, regardless of governmental immunity, and they potentially could end up in prison under 42 USC Section 292.

Well it did seem a little odd because I would believe Sinclair is a private company.

Government just needs to get their nose out of where it doesn’t belong.

 

[YDB95]

fuck them and fuck you if you think you have a right to force me to call this is a woman:

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You're right. I have no authority to stop you from being an asshole if you just have to be one.

 

[latecomer91364]

As much as Hitler was blacklisted because he "promoted that he liked white people with blonde hair"

Did your mother know she was raising an ugly, fucking idiot?

 

[LilKitKat]

Did your mother know she was raising an ugly, fucking idiot?

wow. amazingly coherent, on point, well spoken comment.
I have no issues that you think that. Opinions are like...yeah you know the phrase, right...?

 

[Bn2f]

Did your mother know she was raising an ugly, fucking idiot?

Being on the world wide webz for any period of time should teach folks not to assign just any pic to the actual person.
Me? I tend to judge the beauty of a member by the eloquent words they choose to use and I think that YOU are the fuckin piece of horse fecal matter shit head muthafuka in the previous exchange. Just sayin.

 

[latecomer91364]

Being on the world wide webz for any period of time should teach folks not to assign just any pic to the actual person.
Me? I tend to judge the beauty of a member by the eloquent words they choose to use and I think that YOU are the fuckin piece of horse fecal matter shit head muthafuka in the previous exchange. Just sayin.

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[LilKitKat]

Wow! Who could argue with an argument so eloquently stated?



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yer brain stuck or something?

 

[LilKitKat]

Being on the world wide webz for any period of time should teach folks not to assign just any pic to the actual person.

not sure what "pic" yer referring to, but that is me in my avatar

 

[Bn2f]

not sure what "pic" yer referring to, but that is me in my avatar

I have no reason to doubt you or would rate your physical beauty. You argue for humanity and common sense and therefore are morally superior to magats - so you are beautiful to me.
I'm the idiot on a porn site arguing politics - NOT trying to hook up with anyone. LOL

 

[LilKitKat]

I have no reason to doubt you or would rate your physical beauty. You argue for humanity and common sense and therefore are morally superior to magats - so you are beautiful to me.
I'm the idiot on a porn site arguing politics - NOT trying to hook up with anyone. LOL

no worries. those that want to check out my content have done so on my thread, and those that dont...no worries whatsoever.
as for bantering about politics with randoms, yeah well...try to contain myself and not engage but some of the shit posted is so insane that I take the bait

 

[Bn2f]

no worries. those that want to check out my content have done so on my thread, and those that dont...no worries whatsoever.
as for bantering about politics with randoms, yeah well...try to contain myself and not engage but some of the shit posted is so insane that I take the bait

OK. I just looked.
Impressive!
No thread here is 603 pages long! I mean, there's wat's vanity thread but all his nude pics are of a puckered, wrinkly asshole.

 

[glamorilla]

Are you saying Kimmel being kicked off the air was free speech?

No I think he was saying Elizabeth Warren is a cunt.

 

[glamorilla]

she was "cancelled" for her views on the LGBTQ community

what exactly are her views on the LGBTQ community?

 

[LilKitKat]

OK. I just looked.
Impressive!
No thread here is 603 pages long! I mean, there's wat's vanity thread but all his nude pics are of a puckered, wrinkly asshole.

oh that was my first thread before it got locked. my "new" thread is like...I dont know...350 pages or something ridic

 

[LilKitKat]

what exactly are her views on the LGBTQ community?

I guess you dont have access to google?
Here is a quick AI rundown...yeah yeah AI, but frankly, if you havent heard of her transphobic comments over the last 5-8 years, then well...maybe yer not reading enough major news outlets from around the world


2018–2019: Early instances and support for gender-critical views

• In March 2018, Rowling was criticized for liking a tweet that referred to trans women as "men in dresses." Her representative claimed it was an accidental "clumsy and middle-aged moment," but Rowling later stated she had been screenshotting interesting comments.
• In December 2019, Rowling tweeted her support for Maya Forstater, a researcher who lost her job for anti-transgender statements. Rowling framed the issue as a woman being fired for saying "sex is real," triggering significant backlash.

2020: The "people who menstruate" tweet and further fallout

• In June 2020, Rowling posted a dismissive tweet about an article using the phrase "people who menstruate," sarcastically suggesting there was a word for those people: "Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?".
• The tweet was condemned as being anti-trans because it erased the experiences of trans men and non-binary people who menstruate, as well as cisgender women who do not.
• In response, Rowling published a long essay on her website defending her views on sex and gender. In it, she expressed concern about the "new trans activism" and asserted that single-sex spaces for women must be protected, which critics argued conflated trans women with male predators.
• Following the essay, prominent Harry Potter actors, including Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Eddie Redmayne, released statements supporting trans people and distancing themselves from Rowling's comments.

2022–2023: Accusations of transphobia in her novels and other actions

• In 2022, critics noted that her novel The Ink Black Heart, published under the pseudonym Robert Galbraith, featured a character who is attacked online after being accused of transphobia. Rowling claimed the similarities to her own life were coincidental.
• In December 2022, Rowling funded and co-founded Beira's Place, a women's sexual violence support service that excludes trans women. Some criticized this as a trans-exclusionary effort.
• During a 2023 podcast interview, The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling, she compared the tactics of some trans activists to the Death Eaters in her novels, saying "I believe, absolutely, that there is something dangerous about this movement and that it must be challenged".

2024–2025: Targeting of Scotland's hate crime law and other comments

• In April 2024, after Scotland's new Hate Crime and Public Order Act came into effect, Rowling posted a series of tweets deliberately misgendering several prominent trans women to challenge the new law and invited authorities to arrest her. Police Scotland ultimately stated her comments were not criminal.
• In December 2024, Rowling denied the existence of "trans kids," stating on X that no child is "born in the wrong body".
• In April 2025, after a U.K. Supreme Court ruling limited the definition of a woman under equality legislation to "biological sex," Rowling celebrated the decision on X, referring to it as "TERF VE Day" and posting a photo of herself with a cigar.
• In May 2025, she announced the launch of the J.K. Rowling Women’s Fund, which critics describe as focusing on "anti-trans advocacy".

Broader impacts of the controversy

• Response from the Harry Potter community: Many prominent fansites, including MuggleNet and The Leaky Cauldron, have distanced themselves from Rowling and her personal views. The controversy has caused many fans to feel that their experience with the series has been tarnished.
• Commercial impact: The controversy has prompted boycott calls for projects connected to the Harry Potter franchise, most notably the 2023 video game Hogwarts Legacy. The sports organization based on the fictional sport of Quidditch changed its name to "Quadball" to distance itself from Rowling.
• Ongoing debate: Rowling's statements have fueled ongoing debates about free speech, "cancel culture," and the rights of transgender people, particularly in the United Kingdom.

 

[glamorilla]

I guess you dont have access to google?
Here is a quick AI rundown...yeah yeah AI, but frankly, if you havent heard of her transphobic comments over the last 5-8 years, then well...maybe yer not reading enough major news outlets from around the world


2018–2019: Early instances and support for gender-critical views

• In March 2018, Rowling was criticized for liking a tweet that referred to trans women as "men in dresses." Her representative claimed it was an accidental "clumsy and middle-aged moment," but Rowling later stated she had been screenshotting interesting comments.
• In December 2019, Rowling tweeted her support for Maya Forstater, a researcher who lost her job for anti-transgender statements. Rowling framed the issue as a woman being fired for saying "sex is real," triggering significant backlash.

2020: The "people who menstruate" tweet and further fallout

• In June 2020, Rowling posted a dismissive tweet about an article using the phrase "people who menstruate," sarcastically suggesting there was a word for those people: "Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?".
• The tweet was condemned as being anti-trans because it erased the experiences of trans men and non-binary people who menstruate, as well as cisgender women who do not.
• In response, Rowling published a long essay on her website defending her views on sex and gender. In it, she expressed concern about the "new trans activism" and asserted that single-sex spaces for women must be protected, which critics argued conflated trans women with male predators.
• Following the essay, prominent Harry Potter actors, including Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Eddie Redmayne, released statements supporting trans people and distancing themselves from Rowling's comments.

2022–2023: Accusations of transphobia in her novels and other actions

• In 2022, critics noted that her novel The Ink Black Heart, published under the pseudonym Robert Galbraith, featured a character who is attacked online after being accused of transphobia. Rowling claimed the similarities to her own life were coincidental.
• In December 2022, Rowling funded and co-founded Beira's Place, a women's sexual violence support service that excludes trans women. Some criticized this as a trans-exclusionary effort.
• During a 2023 podcast interview, The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling, she compared the tactics of some trans activists to the Death Eaters in her novels, saying "I believe, absolutely, that there is something dangerous about this movement and that it must be challenged".

2024–2025: Targeting of Scotland's hate crime law and other comments

• In April 2024, after Scotland's new Hate Crime and Public Order Act came into effect, Rowling posted a series of tweets deliberately misgendering several prominent trans women to challenge the new law and invited authorities to arrest her. Police Scotland ultimately stated her comments were not criminal.
• In December 2024, Rowling denied the existence of "trans kids," stating on X that no child is "born in the wrong body".
• In April 2025, after a U.K. Supreme Court ruling limited the definition of a woman under equality legislation to "biological sex," Rowling celebrated the decision on X, referring to it as "TERF VE Day" and posting a photo of herself with a cigar.
• In May 2025, she announced the launch of the J.K. Rowling Women’s Fund, which critics describe as focusing on "anti-trans advocacy".

Broader impacts of the controversy

• Response from the Harry Potter community: Many prominent fansites, including MuggleNet and The Leaky Cauldron, have distanced themselves from Rowling and her personal views. The controversy has caused many fans to feel that their experience with the series has been tarnished.
• Commercial impact: The controversy has prompted boycott calls for projects connected to the Harry Potter franchise, most notably the 2023 video game Hogwarts Legacy. The sports organization based on the fictional sport of Quidditch changed its name to "Quadball" to distance itself from Rowling.
• Ongoing debate: Rowling's statements have fueled ongoing debates about free speech, "cancel culture," and the rights of transgender people, particularly in the United Kingdom.

so now what do we do with her?

 

[LilKitKat]

so now what do we do with her?

she has a right to her opinions.

but her small minded opinions dont align with a huge audience that embraced her writing and the public is allowed to rethink how any would want to digest any of her content

she can laugh all the way to the bank and be a small-minded transphobic asshat all she likes