Whore As A Concept

[R. Richard]

Some of you have read my story 'Whore Wife.' The lady in the story was actually a courtesan, not a whore. However, I wanted a little shock effect in the title.

I got some really nasty feedback from anonymous. He (or so the responder claimed) had a real problem with the entire concept of whore. Apparently, in his world, whores are damn to eternal hell fire, etc. I think the guy needed psychiatric help.

My question is: Is the word whore really that big a shock to Literotica authors? Is the concept of a woman selling herself some kind of major issue here?

TIA.

 

[sanchopanza]

i think most people confuse whore and slut - most would call someone who fucks huge numbers of men a whore (regardless of whether she got paid). er anyway it doesn't bother me and virtually all blokes i know have no problem with it and i actually know quite a few girls who have no problem with it (most of them actually) so i would presume that people who post on here are a little more "open"

 

[MathGirl]

Originally posted by R. Richard Is the word whore really that big a shock to Literotica authors? Is the concept of a woman selling herself some kind of major issue here?

Dear R,
Since the word appears in the Bible, I certainly don't think it shocks the rather .... earthy .... types around here. In fact, I can't think of any word or concept what would be a major issue with this bunch (me included).
MG

 

[pop_54]

Not at all

Not at all friend, let me know if you find one going cheap

Take no notice whatsoever of anon, anon writes to all new authors with one or other of his/her pre-prepared pasted feedback e-mails. He/she just chooses one appropriate to the work in question from his/her files. Truth is anon hasn't the intelligence to write a real e-mail and has to wait for mummy to write him/her some new ones if he/she fancies a change.

Whore is a defined word in the English language, so what the f**k's wrong with it.

 

[sanchopanza]

british is offensive to me - i'm english for christ's sake

 

[R. Richard]

Math Girl:
ear R,
Since the word appears in the Bible, I certainly don't think it shocks the rather .... earthy .... types around here. In fact, I can't think of any word or concept what would be a major issue with this bunch (me included).
MG"

Actually, if you read some of the editor profiles incest seems to be a major hangup for a substantial number of Literotica people. Of course many Literotica males will have nothing to do with homosexual stories. In my own case I would not even read that sort of thing as I am repulsed by the concept. In addition, I would have no idea of the motivation of the characters.

 

[Guest]

I prefer the spelling who're. I've only been called that by one person and invited it so felt quite honoured. It was like a gift really.

On another thread I noted that I would welcome being a true courtesan in Venice (Italy, Maths, Italy).

Otherwise, I do find the phrase "whore as a concept" odd.

Perdita

 

[MathGirl]

In my own case I would not even read that sort of thing as I am repulsed by the concept.

Dear RR,
You only have five (5) posts, dear, so you are hardly a regular. You may find you have a different perspective on things if you hang around this bunch long enough to get, say... a thousand posts.
MG

 

[whispering_surrender]

Having read the Boards for a while before I ever mustered the courage to post my own work, I had heard of this sniveling weasel Anonymous. I was so disappointed when my first story didn't get a single bash by Anon! *whimper* I thought perhaps I wasn't good enough to invoke his (or her) jealousy. Luckily for me, story two got not one but TWO scathing blasts!

Take it as flattery like I do.

Whisper

 

[Guest]

I always question the opinion of a person who reads an erotic story on an erotic site and is upset by an erotic thought.

Get - a - fucking - life!

Some people are so clueless.

R. Richard? You should always ignore all feedback from stupid people. (You'll be much happier!)

 

[Uther_Pendragon]

"Whore" is what I would call a loaded term. It means a
prostitute. But almost always one is critical of
prostitutes when one uses that term.

 

[Angeline]

"Whore" is what I would call a loaded term. It means a
prostitute. But almost always one is critical of
prostitutes when one uses that term.

Precisely. The word itself is neutral; it becomes problematic when it represents a critical value judgment about another human being. And the problem with that, for me, is that once the term is applied that way enough it operates like any stereotype, where you see only a label and not a person.

Using these terms is tricky and dangerous business because many people don't seem to get where erotic fantasy ends and real life begins. And if you don't believe that, think about "ho's" and physical abuse or homophobia and the acts it leads some people to commit.

I'm not saying you're wrong to use the term; but it is loaded and arguably reinforces a stereotype.

P.S. Having said that, I wouldn't get too exercised about feedback. It's just somebody else's opinion.

 

[Icingsugar]

Uther beat me to it. Anyone may have a certain attitude towards prostitution as a concept, as well as promiscuity, but that particular word, "whore" either applied on someone with a slutty lifestyle or someone selling sex, is almost always used in a judgemental and critical way.

You ask:

My question is: Is the word whore really that big a shock to Literotica authors? Is the concept of a woman selling herself some kind of major issue here?

Like I said: Those are two different things. But the answer is: generally no on both accounts. But there are a certain amount that will react. Let them, ignore them, and write your stuff for those that enjoy it.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Some of you have read my story 'Whore Wife.' The lady in the story was actually a courtesan, not a whore. However, I wanted a little shock effect in the title.

I got some really nasty feedback from anonymous. He (or so the responder claimed) had a real problem with the entire concept of whore. Apparently, in his world, whores are damn to eternal hell fire, etc. I think the guy needed psychiatric help.

My question is: Is the word whore really that big a shock to Literotica authors? Is the concept of a woman selling herself some kind of major issue here?

TIA.

I don't think the issue of prostitution is going to bother anyone here. Likewise I think the word whore has lost most of it's shock value through common useage. Still, there are words that are loaded and this is one of them. It carries a connotation that is deeper than the word prostitute would.

As to your Annon feedback, well, if he is that repressed sexually exactly what is he doing at lit in the first place? Unless he is going to come here and discourage new writers in the belief that he is saving souls? Paint him in your mind as a thirty something who can't get a date, wants to be a good member of the local congregation, but can't help his dirty little urges. So he comes to lit, wanks off, then sends vile feedbacks to make himself feel less like a perv. Annon feedback works both ways, they are free to say what they want, but you are free to imagine them however you want. Once you are laughing at the sender the words don't sting as much.

-Colly

 

[raphy]

You can't please everyone. Shrug it off =)

And no, I doubt any AH regulars are gonna be offended by whore.

MG might be offended if you don't mention it in conjunction with garderobes though.

 

[MathGirl]

Originally posted by raphy MG might be offended if you don't mention it in conjunction with garderobes though.

Dear r,
Please stop picking on me. I've been very nice, lately.
MG

 

[raphy]

Dear MG.

Many apologies. That was not supposed to be a jibe.

*bows*

Raph.

 

[Vincent E]

As long as we're being literal - or literary - at Literotica

How would you, as authors writing stories, define the following terms:

Whore

Slut

Bitch

Cunt

Hag

and what are the equvalent terms for men, or are there any?


Perdita, how do you pronounce who're (HOO - er)?

 

[Quasimodem]

How would you, as authors writing stories, define the following terms . . .and what are the equvalent terms for men, or are there any?

How I, as an author writing stories define, and what are the equivalent terms for men, of the following terms? :

Whore = Pimp - One who provides or procures sexual favours for lucre.

Slut = debauchee - Someone with execrable morals,
as judge by the employer of these terms.

Bitch = Pissant - General abuse, a metaphor for lowness or insignificance.

Cunt = Prick - Debasing a person by equating them, pejoratively,
to their sexual organ.

Hag = Slob - Unflattering description of appearance,
with connotations to personal worth.

 

[raphy]

Vincent, 'Hoo-er' is about correct. It's whore with an accent

At least, I think that's what 'dita was referring to. Usually preceeded by the word 'Dirty', as in "Dirty, dirty, whore"

 

[Icingsugar]

Quasi is pretty much on my mark, but here are some alternatives inmy vocabulary.

Whore - is a prostitute, generaly the cheaper kind - a negative term

Cunt - exactly what Quasi said. However to "have cunt" rings to me like the female equivalent of "having balls" - which is a positive remark

Hag - boring and unfriendly, can, but does not have to to do with physical appearance. That could be for instance Dog instead.

 

[Guest]

Whore: 1. person who uses their body to achieve or receive something (anything); 2. playful, loving or affectionate term between friends or lovers.
Slut: 1. extra-promiscuous male or female; 2. playful, loving or affectionate term between friends or lovers.
Bitch: very bad/ill-tempered woman (bitchy may apply to men); 2. playful, loving or affectionate term between friends or lovers.
Cunt: 1. vagina; 2. playful, loving or affectionate term between friends or lovers.
Hag: old woman, e.g., shrew, harpy, harridan, one of the witches in Gauche’s H’ween story; not a playful, loving or affectionate term between friends or lovers.

Perdita, how do you pronounce who're (HOO - er)?

Vincenzo, I myself cannot say Who're properly; it comes from an archaic sort of English I have yet to hear.

Perdita

 

[Icingsugar]

Vincenzo, I myself cannot say Who're properly; it comes from an archaic sort of English I have yet to hear.

Darn, and here I thought that the term was somehow french or italian perhaps. I had my hopes up that the pronounciation would be something similar to "Hooray!". That would had been kind of sweet.

 

[Guest]

I had my hopes up that the pronounciation would be something similar to "Hooray!".

Sorry, Sugar. I think it's actually a bit working-class or street. Anyway, it means 'Hooray' to me.

Perdita

 

[Uther_Pendragon]

Re: As long as we're being literal - or literary - at Literotica

How would you, as authors writing stories, define the following terms:

Whore

Slut

Bitch

Cunt

Hag

and what are the equvalent terms for men, or are there any?

A whore is a prostitute. A slut is a woman (sometimes a man) with low discrimination WRT sexual partners. East of the Atlantic, a slut is a sloppy housekeeper.
A bitch is a female dog or a woman with a rotten temnper.
A cunt is the warm center of straight men's erotic interest. Any man who'd use it as a perjorative is suspect WRT orientation, experience, or both.
A hag is an ugly woman, usually an ugly old woman.