Who is this person....

lovecraft68

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That you created. No, not your MC, you know who that person is, its their story. Same for the love/lust interest for the sake of most erotic stories here.
But what about that secondary character that ends up playing a role in the story? The one you thought you were tossing in to further the MC's story or a devise to get from A-B.

The one that for some reason your mind goes back to. The one you made just interesting enough to make you-not the reader for my point her, but you-want to know more.

I did a dub con piece for commission last year, then, with permission of the person who paid me(and a lesser charge) I modified it, added more and posted it as an e-book. In this story a teacher ran afoul of her students, standard black mail gangbang trope follows. But I added a female student to the group, she didn't join in, she was the ring leader, commanding the boys what to do, with the only explanation, her telling the teacher she made money as as a dominantrix, but only for women as she was lesbian, however some of her female clients still 'craved cock' and she had set up things like this before.

For porn fans think sites like Public disgrace, whipped ass, bound gang bangs, all extreme fantasies made reality by a professional domme in the UK and her crew.

That was all she mentioned on the how/why she was there and how she could control everything as two of the students had been recruited to help her before. During the scene she is in total control, she tells the boys to do it, they do, tells them to stop, they do, and immediately. She's by far the most sadistic in the group, and the one who scares the shit out of the reluctant teacher despite being a very slight, adorable looking girl.

Sine I published that story, on multiple occasions I've said "who the fuck is this girl, and where did she come from?" last night it finally hit me so hard, I jotted down some notes and plan on letting her tell me her story(I feel all our stories are already written, we need to let them out) and we'll see where it goes.

Has this happened to you? Had a toss away become a star in their own story, or even just in your head? Have you give them that spotlight yet?
 
Yes. Came real close to killing her off, too. Instead, it turned into a tale of rescue, redemption and deep reflection.
 
Has this happened to you? Had a toss away become a star in their own story, or even just in your head? Have you give them that spotlight yet?
I've told this story before, but:

Back in 2016 I wrote Riddle of the Copper Coin. At the start of the story the protag is moping because her girlfriend Lucy broke up with her to move overseas for her dream job.

A couple of years later I was about halfway through writing Anjali's Red Scarf, there was a concert scene, and I decided to introduce some friends-of-friends. I wasn't sure exactly what I was going to do with them, but I had a feeling I was going to need one or two supporting characters later in the story, so I took the opportunity to introduce them there.

I happened to name one of them Lucy, without thinking very much about it, and later on I realised I'd used that name before. That got my mind going - okay, both these stories are set in Melbourne, what if it's the same Lucy? A whole lot of stuff fell out from there, and suddenly I had a major character forming in my head. She became a very important part of the story.
 
I was writing a nice simple sequel to a nice simple story - guy manages to meet girl again, so obviously they can shag again.

Then my brain went "what if they're mid-fuck and her regular friend-with-benefits wanders in? And what if that guy is totally unfazed and just goes to her, 'if you can't say anything coherent you might just as well suck my cock'? And various traits from colleagues over the last 30 years merged into Richie, often assumed to be merely an arrogant asshole but that's partly because he's got crap social skills. Only partly. He's still a bit of a cunt.

Next thing I know, I'm writing a prequel story for a different woman (Laura), who's going to get it together with a colleague while working at a summer camp, and the bastard barges in there, resulting in 60 not 10k words and an unplanned threesome and group sex, engineered by him.

I could hardly be surprised when my mind figured he and my longest-established character were both geeky, so for the Geek Day challenge this year, they decided to hastily get it on just before the deadline. Fuckers. I don't know why Laura puts up with Richie or Adrian.

Actually, I do, but it's taken me nearly 200k words of writing the sodding woman to get her to tell me.
 
Oh yes. In my Mary and Alvin series, I stuck to a strict rule of only using the POV of the two titles characters. Bit some of the secondary characters became interesting enough to get, not exactly spin offs, but their own POV chapters.

More recently, the character of Isabel in The Adventures of Ranger Ramona was quite a scene stealer. She's a wealthy older woman who takes Ramona under her wings. She is selfish, but charming, extravagant with both her money and her affections, and completely unabashed about her hedonistic lifestyle.

At one point, another character asks, "How does someone get to be like her?" and I was intrigued about that myself, to the point of giving her a backstory that turned into a 70k word novel.


Isabel
 
In my Lifestyle series, I needed the MC wife introduced to her future "boy-toy". I chose to have another couple invite them to a restaurant with the boy-toy and his wife for a scene there. But I wanted the other throw-away couple to be swingers with a husband who was insecure and controlling of his own wife (adding that variety to the swinger community).

To "show" that husband's true character, I used half a chapter (6,700 words of Ch 08 from LIFESTYLE CH. 08-09: CLUBS/PARTIES) deviating from my usual first-person MC POV to third person for this throw-away couple's introduction to a sex club, and the husband's shock at his wife's enthusiasm for a gangbang.
 
That's happened to a few people in the Alexaverse. Freja and Jeanie come to mind immediately. They were second stringers just meant to help advance the plot of my main characters, but they rapidly grew popular and now have their own spinoff.

Freja is a young and brilliant engineer with the morals of an alley cat. Jeanie is a complete airhead with a heart of gold and a speech impediment- she can't say 'no'. šŸ˜†

They're a married couple who fell desperately in love the moment they laid eyes on one another, and their adventures together are insane.

The four members of Karen's 'posse', Lisa, Janet, Mona, and Lady Jenny, all get their own spinoff miniseries as well, since they've proven popular.

Like I'm not busy enough. The Alexaverse is the only series of mine with spinoffs so far, so I'm thankful for that. But I do enjoy writing them.
 
One of the first erotica stories I wrote was about a pair of foster siblings.

The girl was given up for adoption by her maternal grandparents after her mom died giving birth to her. Her father was a married man who wanted nothing to do with the kid.

The boy was physically abused by his father and his girlfriend. He ends up with scars on his face from them cutting slurs into his cheek and that's what ultimately got him taken away.

They end up in the same foster home after a few bad placements and end up bonding in a genuinely sibling way that turns into more when she comes back from college to visit.

The offshoot of that was the story of the foster mom in that final placement for the faux siblings. It's pretty clear that she wanted kids but never had any of her own and never adopted any of the fosters she took in (though she maintains a good relationship with all of her foster kids after they age out of the system.) I wanted to explore who she was.

So, I wrote about how the foster mom and dad ended up together.

She resented her husband because he didn't want kids *yet*. She asked him multiple times as they got older. His position didn't change. He's basically an adult child himself in that story (Who has tremendous growth of his own between the end of his wife's story and the beginning of his.)

She's a giving type of person and he's a taker. She keeps holding on to the idea that things will change, that he'll come around. She becomes increasingly depressed and was suicidal. Death felt like a better option to her than being a failure of a wife and divorcing her husband.

One day her coworkers invite her out for drinks, she would normally run it by her husband to see if he already had plans for them, but she doesn't. Or more accurately, she can't force herself to speak to him. She wasn't going to go home that night either way. She goes with the coworkers and shuts off her phone.

They all get too drunk to drive home right away and end up in a nearby park playing tag to pass the time. Things escalate between her and one coworker during the game, but it's thwarted by a text she gets from her husband when she stops to turn her phone back on to see if her husband even noticed she wasn't home. Things get amped up again after the game, while she's sitting in her car and thinking back on the interaction with her coworker before the message from her husband ruined it.

She ends up going home the next day with a heavy sense of guilt but has a frank discussion with her husband where she decides the marriage is over by pointing out that she was considering suicide to avoid dealing with admitting they didn't work well together. That hit him hard because he never realized how difficult things had gotten for her.

The only clue between the characters being the same in the two stories is the coworker's last name being the same as the foster mom's.

I also ended up giving her first husband a happily ever after with the owner of a sandwich and ice cream shop in a separate story. So mu offshoot spawned its own offshoot.

I really wanted to point out that he wasn't doing anything implicitly wrong, he was just blinded by complacency while his wife was spiraling through depression and feeling worthless. He never seemed interested in what she needed and asking about having her needs met felt like she was asking too much. Especially because when she did tell him what she needed from him, he would do it for a while then he'd stop and she'd start spiraling again. Neither of them were bad people, they just weren't right for each other.
The beginning part of your story reminds me of Mark and Megan from my Siblings with benefits series except they were real siblings given up by their mother who had a nervous breakdown caused by their father who ended up killing someone when he lost his mind from dabbling in the occult and went into an asylum.

They were separated, both abused in foster homes, he physically, she sexually. She ends up in a good home and gets adopted, sometime later her foster parents locate the brother in a group home and take him in.

During that long series there is a Halloween one shot where a character named Abigail, the owner of a fetish club and powerful witch, was introduced. She wouldn't get out of my head, reappeared in the final segment of Sibs in a dark and dangerous way, then eventually ended up in her own solo series. This is a case of the initial story and side on ending up being way longer and more intriguing than I thought they'd be.
 
Has this happened to you? Had a toss away become a star in their own story, or even just in your head? Have you give them that spotlight yet?

All the time.

At least once a story I have a "throw away character" that walks itself right out of the trash can and lives rent free in my head.

In my current inwork it's "Pepper" - a name I only picked because I wanted her to be 'spicy'. She's my 'almost gringo' in a story set in Mexico (she's Canadian). She was meant to just be a 'oh and here's my roommate's girlfriend, say hi and then forget her because she's only a one-liner in this story.'

But she somehow got herself inserted into the epilogue as 'still living with us decades later', and then she ran the opening scene of the follow-up story.

Suddenly I have to figure out who this character is and what it means for someone to be a quarter indigenous Canadian living in Mexico where people will keep mistaking her for either a gringo or a local mestizo, why she lives there, her story for her passions of dancing and of course, since it's erotica: exhibitionism / nudism / bisexuality.

And everytime I pick up my current draft, my mind wanders to 'OK, what's Pepper up to in this scene.'

If I'd known she was going to stick in my head, I would have chosen a name that didn't make my roll my eyes everytime I read it back. But that also might be why she's sticking.
 
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