Who do you think will win?

[HisArpy]

The Vice President is still going to win, it's the power of incumbency.
The power of the Democrat vote-raising machine efforts and small-donor donations.
It the power of the first.

The first woman President.
The first BLACK woman President.
The Inevitable President For Our Time!

I'm with OG Joe Biden, President-in-Exile,
She should have never have left the White House Basement.
She was too busy working on fixing Trump's problems to fight him, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT FOR HER!

(and some have. literally)

If I were running her campaign, she would never face the press.
She would never face questions. She would have canned, edited sit-downs with friendlies,
or stick to The fucking View and childrens' events where the press is excluded FOR THE CHILDREN...

She. They. You. Are really fucking this one up. It's in the bag. How could you let the cat out of the bag?

How could you let them see the pig in the poke?

It's too late for lipstick morons!

Vote by mail is down ~25% compared to this point in time in both 2020 and 2022. That's a big drop. It's worse when you dig deeper and discover that R's have taken up the idea to ensure that their votes aren't disenfranchised in the middle of the night in big numbers. Basically D's aren't voting early and the R's are.

Maybe all those newly enacted laws to prevent voter fraud are working? Or maybe the D's just don't have a candidate worth voting for.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Hmmm...,

That's interesting.

It's something I may have to mull.

First blush would be, "indicator of enthusiasm."

I think participation here also reflects a lack of genuine spirit,

but then this backwater has been passed over: Left withering on the vine...

 

[ll74]

Vote by mail is down ~25% compared to this point in time in both 2020 and 2022. That's a big drop. It's worse when you dig deeper and discover that R's have taken up the idea to ensure that their votes aren't disenfranchised in the middle of the night in big numbers. Basically D's aren't voting early and the R's are.

Maybe all those newly enacted laws to prevent voter fraud are working? Or maybe the D's just don't have a candidate worth voting for.

2022 was down from 2020. (Pandemic) This year cannot mathematically be down 25% from two different values

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Did the pandemic shut down mail-in voting?

Was it then illegitimate?

 

[ll74]

Did the pandemic shut down mail-in voting?

What?

Was it then illegitimate?

Wtf are you talking about?

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Wtf are you going on about?

Another pretense at waiting for the slow bus?

 

[ll74]

Wtf are you going on about?

I'm disputing the incorrect statement being made.

Another pretense at waiting for the slow bus?

I know this difficult to understand math sometimes

 

[JoePepsiCo]

There is no math involved.

You saw no single number, equation or calculation.

You simply divined the mathematics involved on the fly, zipped up, or down, no matter...

 

[ll74]

There is no math involved.

You saw no single number, equation or calculation.

You saw none of those.

He said 25% of 2020 and 2022.

Whether you understand the flaw of that or not is as much your issue as you missing the calculation involved. Maybe algebra is too much for you.

You simply divined the mathematics involved on the fly, zipped up, or down, no matter...

X is 2020
Y is 2022

X != Y

25% of x != 25% of y

The fact is that covid increased mail in voting numbers exponentially. Both 2022 and 2024 will be substantially less because of that. Inferring anything else is dumb and in ettor

 

[Lance_Castro]

The Presidential election is about 9 weeks away:

1. Who do think will win the popular vote?
2. Who do you think will win the Electoral College vote?

I think that Harris will win the popular vote by a substantial margin, possibly more than 4/5 million votes, but Trump will win the Electoral College vote. I am more confident that the total voting numbers will fall very significantly because folks are fed up with politicians of all parties.

NB. I have an appalling record of picking election results!

I think if Trump wins it will be because Harris doesn’t feel authentic.

Trump is just so much more entertaining at being dishonest.

 

[ll74]

I think if Trump wins it will be because Harris doesn’t feel authentic.

Trump is just so much more entertaining at being dishonest.

So it isn't about authenticity....it's about entertainment level of inauthenticity

 

[Lance_Castro]

So it isn't about authenticity....it's about entertainment level of inauthenticity

Both!

There is something endearing about the circus clown craziness of trump…whereas harris pretends to be respectable, trump has that fuck the rules thing that obviously appeals to the downtrodden hopeless hourly wage slaves.

 

[ll74]

Both!

There is something endearing about the circus clown craziness of trump…whereas harris pretends to be respectable, trump has that fuck the rules thing that obviously appeals to the downtrodden hopeless hourly wage slaves.

If the negative of Harris is her lack of authenticity and a positive of Trump is his likeability level of his lack of authenticity ....then you aren't against a lack of authenticity ....you just prefer to be entertained by it rather than not.

 

[Lance_Castro]

If the negative of Harris is her lack of authenticity and a positive of Trump is his likeability level of his lack of authenticity ....then you aren't against a lack of authenticity ....you just prefer to be entertained by it rather than not.

Thanks, Doc!

“ who do you think will win?”

too close to call, but if trump wins i think it will be a fuck you to the establishment by those who see harris as an empty suit plus the carnival barker’s decades-long appeal to the underclass.

If harris wins it will be because of women 30-50, who are also an angry underclass of sorts in the USA… and the elites raising 1 billion in propaganda loot in very short order.

And what you think means sweet fuck all to me.

That’s what i think.

 

[ll74]

Thanks, Doc!

“ who do you think will win?”

too close to call, but if trump wins i think it will be a fuck you to the establishment by those who see harris as an empty suit plus the carnival barker’s decades-long appeal to the underclass.

If harris wins it will be because of women 30-50, who are also an angry underclass of sorts in the USA… and the elites raising 1 billion in propaganda loot in very short order.

And what you think means sweet fuck all to me.

That’s what i think.

I'm responding to your comments. Sorry that you can't handle criticism of your comments.

 

[Lance_Castro]

I'm responding to your comments. Sorry that you can't handle criticism of your comments.

Lol

 

[coati]

Who will win?

Current polls say the Presidential race is a "dead heat". Bullshit. Polls are worthless these days. Too many intelligent people refuse to participate because of the way that polls have been used to manipulate responders. The polling industry has too much selection bias.

After the actual votes are counted, it will be a definitive victory for Harris. MAGAts will howl that those results don't count, because they don't line up with pre-election polls.

 

[SevMax2]

Who will win?

Current polls say the Presidential race is a "dead heat". Bullshit. Polls are worthless these days. Too many intelligent people refuse to participate because of the way that polls have been used to manipulate responders. The polling industry has too much selection bias.

After the actual votes are counted, it will be a definitive victory for Harris. MAGAts will howl that those results don't count, because they don't line up with pre-election polls.

Well, I, for one, will be nervous and tense until the election is over. Maybe even after that for a while.

 

[LLCox]

So it isn't about authenticity....it's about entertainment level of inauthenticity

trump would be entertaining for sure but not in a good way. America is doomed no matter who wins, might a well laugh.

 

[ishtat]

Any late changes of mind? I put $1000 on Harris to win though the odds were a bit better 10 days ago. The margins book offers more scope.

 

[Mike302]

America 1.0, Washingtons America, died in 1861. A. Lincoln failed to prevent civil war. That's one of the top ways the head of a nation can fail.
So, naturally, American history books say he was a great President!

America has been something else ever since. In the early 20th century, unconstitutional things like income taxes really violated peoples' rights. Direct election of Senators was also a huge mistake. Many courses were set in the 1910's through 1930's. WWII resulted in a more power-grabbing and downright atrocities by the Federal government. (sick experiments on people, nuclear weapon testing on native lands, etc)

In the 1970's-1990's the federal government and corporations really merged into an oligarchy and sold out American sovereignty for global business ventures.

Then came the destruction of what little was left of our privacy rights with the Patriot Acts following the successful 2001 attacks by radical Muslims.

American debt is massive, the common people have seen the value of their money and purchasing power fall constantly as they work more. The population is only sustaining itself due to immigration as the government desperately brings in every immigrant they can because American citizens have nearly stopped having children.

My point is things are already a disaster. No President can correct all of these issues, many of which were created by former Presidents, their cabinets, and congresses.

It doesn't matter who is the Captain after the Titanic hits the iceberg. Or in this case, dozens of them.

The sun will rise and fall in the sky, but the American empire will continue to fall and we the people will continue our path to poverty no matter who wins the '24 elections.

All of that being said:

I think Trump will lose by 25-45 electoral college votes. He will only win between zero and two of the seven or so "swing states".

 

[JoePepsiCo]

My money is still on the dark horse...

The shepherd's bell cow.

Judas Goat

Same thing I said way back when in the early pages.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Both!

There is something endearing about the circus clown craziness of trump…whereas harris pretends to be respectable, trump has that fuck the rules thing that obviously appeals to the downtrodden hopeless hourly wage slaves.

Respectable even when unintelligible and giggling like a blushing school-girl.

I think that latter part is what has you entranced.

That and the conflict of it all.

Like IlDuce74

 

[JoePepsiCo]

*chuckle*
~remember~

This is what Democracy looks like when it works...

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Not a whole lot of winning in the whole damned thing...