Who do you think will win?

[ishtat]

The Presidential election is about 9 weeks away:

1. Who do think will win the popular vote?
2. Who do you think will win the Electoral College vote?

I think that Harris will win the popular vote by a substantial margin, possibly more than 4/5 million votes, but Trump will win the Electoral College vote. I am more confident that the total voting numbers will fall very significantly because folks are fed up with politicians of all parties.

NB. I have an appalling record of picking election results!

 

[jomar]

The Presidential election is about 9 weeks away:

1. Who do think will win the popular vote?

Harris

2. Who do you think will win the Electoral College vote?

For the country’s sake I pray it’s Harris

I think that Harris will win the popular vote by a substantial margin, possibly more than 4/5 million votes, but Trump will win the Electoral College vote.

See above

I am more confident that the total voting numbers will fall very significantly because folks are fed up with politicians of all parties.

That’s what got trump in the first time. Enough people said “fuck it, let’s elect a monkey wrench”

NB. I have an appalling record of picking election results!

That’s promising then

 

[ll74]

The Presidential election is about 9 weeks away:

1. Who do think will win the popular vote?

Harris

2. Who do you think will win the Electoral College vote?

I've been thinking 45 for quite some time, but the momentum that Harris is has right now has been sustained longer than I anticipated.

It all comes down to Pennsylvania.

I think that Harris will win the popular vote by a substantial margin, possibly more than 4/5 million votes, but Trump will win the Electoral College vote. I am more confident that the total voting numbers will fall very significantly because folks are fed up with politicians of all parties.

NB. I have an appalling record of picking election results!

This is not a policy race ...it's a vibes race. The positivity and happier demeanor on the left might just be enough to ride to victory.

I think we'll know more after the first debate.

 

[Lucy_Lastic]

For the country’s sake I pray it’s Harris

For the world's sake everyone outside the US hopes it's Harris. Then we won't have to do the "Americans are so dumb..." jokes.

 

[Bray123]

Harris could win by 290,000,000 votes and Trump will still say he won, he has said so out loud already.

 

[TastySuckToy]

If it's a fair and clean election, I fully expect Trump to win in a major landslide.

That said, we'll just have to see what happens.

 

[ll74]

If it's a fair and clean election, I fully expect Trump to win in a major landslide.

That said, we'll just have to see what happens.

1. Landslide meaning what?
2. What do you mean by "fair and clean election"?

 

[YDB95]

The Dems have won the popular vote in all but one election since 1992, and they'll win it again this time.

The electoral vote, if things keep up as they're going now and if the Dems aren't asleep at the switch against the inevitable right-wing shenanigans, it'll be Harris. Unfortunately that's a big if.

 

[YDB95]

2. What do you mean by "fair and clean election"?

I think we all know what he means by that!

 

[ll74]

I think we all know what he means by that!

My guess is that they don't know. It's just a tag line and the answer will just devolve into grievance porn

 

[RoryN]

If it's a fair and clean election, I fully expect Trump to win in a major landslide.

^^^
Weird.

 

[RobDownSouth]

2. What do you mean by "fair and clean election"?

"Fair and clean" is a MAGA dogwhistle for "the only way we lose is if the other side cheats, so it's gonna be all 'lawfare', all the time"

Trump realizes there is a better-than-average chance that he will lose both the popular and electoral vote once again, so he's laying the groundwork now to claim that "Democrats Cheated!"

 

[ll74]

"Fair and clean" is a MAGA dogwhistle for "the only way we lose is if the other side cheats, so it's gonna be all 'lawfare', all the time"

Trump realizes there is a better-than-average chance that he will lose both the popular and electoral vote once again, so he's laying the groundwork now to claim that "Democrats Cheated!"

Yes, I added what I expected the answer to be, though don't have my hopes up for anything

 

[Escierto]

I absolutely hate him but I think Trump will win easily. All the people who are excited about Harris don't vote. Well, Trump says we will never have to vote again so that should make them happy.

 

[RoryN]

All the people who are excited about Harris don't vote.

Incorrect.

 

[HisArpy]

I absolutely hate him but I think Trump will win easily. All the people who are excited about Harris don't vote. Well, Trump says we will never have to vote again so that should make them happy.

Something you and the rest who "absolutely hate him" should think about is why he won in 2016 and why he might win again.

Hint: Hate isn't really a winning strategy for anyone.

 

[jomar]

Something you and the rest who "absolutely hate him" should think about is why he won in 2016 and why he might win again.

Hint: Hate isn't really a winning strategy for anyone.

It’s arguably the platform trump ran on. Well, that and fear mongering.

 

[HisArpy]

It’s arguably the platform trump ran on. Well, that and fear mongering.

Currently, Trump's platform is that the economy sucks and he believes his administration can turn that around. A lot of people think that way too.

Trump leads Harris by 9 points in trust to handle the economy and inflation alike, roughly maintaining his position on these issues against Biden last month. More than 85% of adults rate both of these as highly important in their vote for president, tops among 11 issues tested.

https://abc11.com/2024-presidential...-of-the-economy-abc-news-poll-shows/15201187/

Kamala's platform (other than avoiding the public and the media as much as possible) seems to revolve around a lot of bad stuff like raising everyone's taxes and imposing more government control over the people while increasing government spending. (With the resulting increase in the national debt.)

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/08/27/kamalas-tax-plan-leaked-wsj-n2400181

 

[jomar]

Currently, Trump's platform is that the economy sucks and he believes his administration can turn that around. A lot of people think that way too.

It is sort of fascinating that a lot of people see him as a great businessman who can supercharge the economy, while ignoring, being indifferent to, or not knowing he bankrupted many of his businesses and was bailed out by daddy for millions more than once, and who also gave him millions in seed money. He’s not a bootstrap guy. But than again, many of his base don’t look any further than the tv magic of The Apprentice.

 

[HisArpy]

It is sort of fascinating that a lot of people see him as a great businessman who can supercharge the economy, while ignoring, being indifferent to, or not knowing he bankrupted many of his businesses and was bailed out by daddy for millions more than once, and who also gave him millions in seed money. He’s not a bootstrap guy. But than again, many of his base don’t look any further than the tv magic of The Apprentice.

It's amazing to me that so many people believe that taking advantage of the loopholes in tax laws is somehow immoral. And that that belief carries over into politics.

ANYONE can look at the numbers during Trump's first administration and see for themselves that he turned the economy around. That's not fake nor is it manipulated because those are the hard numbers.

Fact: Covid did a number on the economy. The problem is that the current administration is taking credit for the economy restarting after the Covid shutdown. It's touting people going back to work as "new job creation" when it's really just people going back to work. This is why the gov had to downgrade all of it's jobs numbers by 818,000 jobs.

And saying that inflation is "down" after it went through the roof for the past 3 years isn't really speaking the truth, it's a political talking point for the uninformed masses. When you cut the inflation that occurred as a result of your policies in half, you still have the remaining unresolved inflationary half which is still crushing the economy. Telling people their troubles are over because it's come down is a lie.

These are truths anyone can search for and find. Which is why 87% of adults believe that Trump is a better candidate for fixing the economy. He did it once, he can probably do it again and all your deflections to imaginary things won't change that. People know what he already did, they know they're hurting financially, and they believe he can help us once more.

The problem is that people who think like you do won't get out of the way and let him.

 

[Lazaran]

It’s inarguably the platform trump ran on. Well, that and fear mongering.

Fyp.

(Just a minor fix)

 

[jomar]

It's amazing to me that so many people believe that taking advantage of the loopholes in tax laws is somehow immoral. And that that belief carries over into politics.

That’s not my point, more power to loopholes. trump’s a poor man’s version of a billionaire. His empire is built on staggering debt, and that’s probably why some of his businesses failed-he was pulling cash out to fund other things…his casinos came to mind.

ANYONE can look at the numbers during Trump's first administration and see for themselves that he turned the economy around. That's not fake nor is it manipulated because those are the hard numbers.

Truth be told what actually happened was that he didn’t fuck up the recovery he inherited from Obama. He did not turn the economy around.

Fact: Covid did a number on the economy. The problem is that the current administration is taking credit for the economy restarting after the Covid shutdown. It's touting people going back to work as "new job creation" when it's really just people going back to work. This is why the gov had to downgrade all of its jobs numbers by 818,000 jobs.

There is some of that spin that any administration would take, but jobs have to be there for people to take them and a lot of businesses went under during Covid. On the other hand a lot of people didn’t go back to work.

And saying that inflation is "down" after it went through the roof for the past 3 years isn't really speaking the truth, it's a political talking point for the uninformed masses. When you cut the inflation that occurred as a result of your policies in half, you still have the remaining unresolved inflationary half which is still crushing the economy. Telling people their troubles are over because it's come down is a lie.

Inflation was a worldwide issue after Covid, not just in the US. And inflation did go down. Problem was the retailers and manufacturers didn’t ease their prices in kind. Could have had to do with increased costs still being passed on to the consumer, but there’s next quarter’s earning report to think about as well.

These are truths anyone can search for and find. Which is why 87% of adults believe that Trump is a better candidate for fixing the economy. He did it once, he can probably do it again and all your deflections to imaginary things won't change that. People know what he already did, they know they're hurting financially, and they believe he can help us once more.

lol, now you’re taking a stroll in fantasy land, about him fixing the economy, that is.

The problem is that people who think like you do won't get out of the way and let him.

What makes you truly think that he know anything about the economy just because he owns a bunch of golf courses. No, if he gets in implementing project 2025 may just be the death knell of our democracy. (Yes I know he’s said he knows nothing about and disagrees with some of it. And if you believe he’s not going to use it from day one then I have bridges and swampland to sell you.)

ETA: https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_...rump-create-or-inherit-the-strong-economy.pdf

https://apnews.com/article/trump-economy-biden-election-president-e3a153c9b0c615ea6e0f2afb91cdc785

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2...owth-higher-prices-and-a-bigger-national-debt

 

[CuriousRick]

It doesn’t relay matter. All the election fraud wasn’t addressed after the last election.

 

[Rightguide]

Unless Harris can convince enough people that she wasn't the Vice President and the last person in the room" when Joe created the national disasters that now exists, Trump will win.

 

[HisArpy]

Unless Harris can convince enough people that she wasn't the Vice President and the last person in the room" when Joe created the national disasters that now exists, Trump will win.

I'm sure you've already seen this but for those who haven't yet;

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2...ounce-and-rfk-jrs-impact-on-the-race-n4932023

We haven't even gotten to the first debate yet (the one Kommie Kammie isn't going to show up for) and she's already in trouble. We'd see it clearly if the pollsters and media weren't in the tank for the D's, but Rassmussen knows what's what.