When does positive outweigh negative?

[Prince Romeo]

Let’s say you know someone either personally or through the media. You’ve heard a number of things about that person that don’t match with your own values. On the other hand, there seem to be a number of re-deeming qualities as well. Would you end up disliking that person? Or would you say, that since that person exhibits quality “X”, they couldn’t be all that bad.



“Crazy, am I? We'll see whether I'm crazy or not.” – Dr. Frankenstein

 

[Thrillhouse]

Let’s say you know someone either personally or through the media. You’ve heard a number of things about that person that don’t match with your own values. On the other hand, there seem to be a number of re-deeming qualities as well. Would you end up disliking that person? Or would you say, that since that person exhibits quality “X”, they couldn’t be all that bad.



“Crazy, am I? We'll see whether I'm crazy or not.” – Dr. Frankenstein

It depends on a lot of things: the specific qualities, the extent of those qualities, etc. It's hard to say, except on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Willing and Unsure]

well, it depends on what it is. every person has different qualities. Some I like, some I dont like. There isnt going to be one specific quality that will make me say that I dont like someone because of that, there is the overall picture to look at. Not just that, but you really cant judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. so you really have to take the time to get to know someone for yourself before saying that you dont like them. Basing your opinion on what someone else says is ridiculous, in my opinion.

 

[Nora]

Personally is way different than through the media, to me.

It doesn't matter if I personally agree with Arnold Schwarzenegger's politics to go see his movies. It would have to be something seriously awful for me to "boycott" an actor or musician. The only one I can think of whose product I boycott due to his actions/beliefs is Roman Polanski.

For someone with whom I'm going to be required to interact on a personal level, I'm a helluva lot more nitpicky. I guess it would depend on what we disagreed on, however. I have a lot of friends whose politics I don't like. I have friends with whom I disagree about drinking, drug use, smoking, etc.

 

[Prince Romeo]

Yes, I agree. But look at people like Nixon, Clinton, Pete Rose or even OJ. I'm not comparing them to one another, but certainly there were qualities that people saw in them, that made those people them still like them, despite their short comings.

 

[Coca~Cola]

For someone with whom I'm going to be required to interact on a personal level, I'm a helluva lot more nitpicky. I guess it would depend on what we disagreed on, however. I have a lot of friends whose politics I don't like. I have friends with whom I disagree about drinking, drug use, smoking, etc.

And then we just agree to disagree, huh? luv

 

[Guest]

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[glamorilla]

situational ethics. there is no set answer. i think Nora illustrates best that there are degrees of acceptibility in differences of interest. I agree with you on the Roman Polanski thing.

some people can be rude,crude and dirty...and still be completely charming and captivating...others try and just don't get it.

 

[Prince Romeo]

some people can be rude,crude and dirty...and still be completely charming and captivating...others try and just don't get it.

I hear you Glam. I wonder about some of the people that post shit here and what it is that they are trying to accomplish. Even so, there seem to be people who are "drawn" to those shit spreaders, for some reason. (Either that or it's the same person with multiple accounts just making it look like someone connects with them)

 

[babs_2k3]

Let’s say you know someone either personally or through the media. You’ve heard a number of things about that person that don’t match with your own values. On the other hand, there seem to be a number of re-deeming qualities as well. Would you end up disliking that person? Or would you say, that since that person exhibits quality “X”, they couldn’t be all that bad.



“Crazy, am I? We'll see whether I'm crazy or not.” – Dr. Frankenstein

nobodys perfect

 

[ozraven]

Let’s say you know someone either personally or through the media. You’ve heard a number of things about that person that don’t match with your own values. On the other hand, there seem to be a number of re-deeming qualities as well. Would you end up disliking that person? Or would you say, that since that person exhibits quality “X”, they couldn’t be all that bad.

knowingly cruel and vicious to others.
pedo / rapist.
unrelentingly arrogant.

Those are about the only "off" switches I have......

Most people have something to recomend them, and the question is far to general to answer specifically.....

 

[Nora]

And then we just agree to disagree, huh? luv

What do we disagree about??

Well, I mean except the whole "kissing" thing. ICKKKKKYYYYY!

Glam makes a good point, too. Some things we accept from people with whom we're already friends that would cause us not to become friends with a stranger, if we saw them exhibiting the same behavior. Why that doesn't set off the cognitive dissonance warning bells, I'll never understand! lol

As far as the Clinton/Nixon/OJ/ thang, you also have hugely varying degrees in there.

Nixon's trouble, I think, was more a matter of the mindset of the times, rather than the degree of boundary-crossing. Had Watergate happened today, I sincerely doubt it would have been as big a deal as it was then.

OJ is a murderer. I don't think anyone likes him anymore. Well, maybe Kato since thanks to OJ he got his 15 minutes of fame.

Clinton...the thing that I love about people who bash Clinton is that they demean his integrity while cheating on their own spouses, on their tax returns, on their business partners. I love that. Makes me giggle. Personally, I don't think someone's sexuality makes them a good or bad leader.

 

[glamorilla]

I hear you Glam. I wonder about some of the people that post shit here and what it is that they are trying to accomplish. Even so, there seem to be people who are "drawn" to those shit spreaders, for some reason. (Either that or it's the same person with multiple accounts just making it look like someone connects with them)

well not just here.

for example i could probably befriend/accept a murderer...knowing that what happened was an accident,an act of self preservation~ but i dont think id want the person who did it becouse blood is a pretty red color moving in next door to me.

 

[Coca~Cola]

Well, I mean except the whole "kissing" thing. ICKKKKKYYYYY!

 

[Hamletmaschine]

If I know them personally, then they're already in my "like" or "dislike" boxes and no hearsay about the supposed negative qualities of someone I like is going to change that very easily. If they're in the dislike box already, who cares?

As for people on TV. They're not real, so who gives a fuck about 'em?