Negative comments that make you think "job done"

[John_Vandermeer]

Having recently finished my seven chapter dark-femdom NC/R short novel A Wife's Dark Talent I am trying to see the positive of having accumulated quite a few negative comments by readers. I am talking mostly about impassioned adverse reactions from a set of readers, that regardless kept on reading even as things kept getting darker and darker. There were numerous lengthy ones from a certain kind of reader advising the MMC on ways to rape, disable, and/or murder the FMC. I am not going to repost those, thought it does make you wonder the amount of people that can only think of physical violence--from a man towards a woman, no less--as a way to "even the score". Ignoring those, some of the other adverse comments that made me think "you felt your stomach churn, but were hooked enough to see it through, so job done" are:

What a fucking cunt, just divorce her, and never look back or ever talk to her again. Karma will Catch up with in the form of STDs and such, or a John would badly hurt her for the fun of it, just let she had done to him..

Come on let the guy have something positive in this.

I was hoping Henry would say,"fuck it" steal all her money and jewelry, burn down the whore's lair and start a new life with someone who simply gave a shit.

What an awful person.

Divorce!

It's very well written. You've made me hate all the characters, which means you provoked an emotional response. Well done.

So, recognizing that if your kind of writing is limited to wonderful people doing wonderful things, and scenarious that never buck conventions or expectations, you would never get that kind of comment, what stories of yours have provoked intense adverse reactions from your readers that make you feel like "mission accomplished"? What are those comments?

 

[oneagainst]

Oh boy... it's worth noting that I didn't go looking to provoke a reaction but: Alena's Game Ch. 17:

"SERIOUSLY WE GO THROUGH ALL HIS PAIN AND SUFFERING AND WE DONT GET TO SEE HER SUFFER? I want nothing more than chapters of her wasting away on a bed in pain, unable to move, vomiting and dwindling to nothing. Raspy breathing before she finally dies and Quinn just stands off in a corner and smiles the entire time. That's what I wanted."

Like the great man said, you can't please all the people all the time....

 

[John_Vandermeer]

Oh boy... it's worth noting that I didn't go looking to provoke a reaction but: Alena's Game Ch. 17:

"SERIOUSLY WE GO THROUGH ALL HIS PAIN AND SUFFERING AND WE DONT GET TO SEE HER SUFFER? I want nothing more than chapters of her wasting away on a bed in pain, unable to move, vomiting and dwindling to nothing. Raspy breathing before she finally dies and Quinn just stands off in a corner and smiles the entire time. That's what I wanted."

Like the great man said, you can't please all the people all the time....

Yeah I read that one. And you are tempting me to quote one were the commenter advises my MMC to push the FMC down the stairs, break her back and legs... you get the idea. Maybe "evil" Dommes doing a number on their husbands is particularly reaction baiting. A subervision of the caveman world order. But I wonder what else is out there.

 

[gunhilltrain]

This sounds like Loving Wives, but it wasn't them. Cheating brings up an intense reaction in many people, even if it's fiction.

Physical violence? There is a lot of that going on; I can read about such an event in the news every week. It seems worse among the males. Men who have never had a criminal record will kill their spouses or even entire families. It may not even be proven cheating; the mere threat of leaving can trigger some of them. A few ladies will go over the edge too, like Jean Harris with Dr. Tarnover. The ultimate Scarsdale Diet: death.

 

[stickygirl]

In my Goalposts 01 story there's a moment when someone screams abuse at the transgender FMC after a game. I had a comment

Scareltt, ah "NO" this was a pathetic attempt to legitimize scapel sexism... And of course creating issues in athleticism that is not legit.

To which I replied
Dear Anon. I'm actually grateful for your comment, because you've exemplified the problems Vicki faced. You are the man on the terraces screaming obscenities. Welcome to the story

 

[Bramblethorn]

I don't get a lot of those, but I guess there's this:

It wouldn't be a lesbian erotica without all the potshots at men. Why do authors do this? It comes off as so insecure. "Haha you pathetic men. Fear me and my lesbian ways, as I treat and please women better than you ever could. I shall give her orgasms which will make the kind she had with you seem like a hiccup." ... It's a shame this category falls for this trope so often. All it does is demonstrate that lesbian romance can only stand on its feet by stepping on men.

Off the mark on several counts there, but at least it reassured me that I was writing for the right audience... i.e. not that dude.

 

[John_Vandermeer]

This sounds like Loving Wives, but it wasn't them. Cheating brings up an intense reaction in many people, even if it's fiction.

Physical violence? There is a lot of that going on; I can read about such an event in the news every week. It seems worse among the males. Men who have never had a criminal record will kill their spouses or even entire families. It may not even be proven cheating; the mere threat of leaving can trigger some of them. A few ladies will go over the edge too, like Jean Harris with Dr. Tarnover. The ultimate Scarsdale Diet: death.

There definitely is a LW element/vibe to the story which I got a LW type reaction. But NC/R is purported to be a place where dark deeds are carried out by some characters upon other characters and everybody expects it. That said, there might be a gender asymetry on how acceptable being the perpetrator or victim of deeds is.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Can someone explain what a Scareltt is btw?

They're replying to a comment by another poster with that username.

 

[stickygirl]

They're replying to a comment by another poster with that username.

Doh. I amaze myself with my stupid. I'll delete that question out of embarrassment

 

[alohadave]

Cheating brings up an intense reaction in many people, even if it's fiction.

I'm not bothered by cheating, but I read one story a couple years ago that really got my blood boiling.

It wasn't even that outlandish if a story. Basic cheating wife, husband finds out follows them and has his heart torn out when he sees them together.

I rarely have a visceral reaction to a story like that. It was just something about the writing that hit me particularly hard.

I wish I had noted the title or author because I'd love to tell them that it impacted me, respectfully, of course.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I'm not bothered by cheating, but I read one story a couple years ago that really got my blood boiling.

It wasn't even that outlandish if a story. Basic cheating wife, husband finds out follows them and has his heart torn out when he sees them together.

I rarely have a visceral reaction to a story like that. It was just something about the writing that hit me particularly hard.

I wish I had noted the title or author because I'd love to tell them that it impacted me, respectfully, of course.

You're going to have to take my word on this because I don't wish - at least not right now - to go into too much detail about my own life. But . . . time moves on. Whatever seems important now (like whatever your ex or ex's did to you), won't seem that way after some number of years go by. It varies - it could be ten, twenty, thirty years. Eventually most of the people who remembered the stupid stuff that you did or the bad things that happened to you will have passed. At 45 I could not imagine being 65. Now that I'm 68; well it's here, and it's all moot in the end.

Somebody on the train is thinking, "My goddamn girlfriend, wife, boyfriend, husband, son, daughter, in-laws, boss . . . oh well, time to consider some lunch."

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[stickygirl]

You're going to have to take my word on this because I don't wish - at least not right now - to go into too much detail about my own life. But . . . time moves on. Whatever seems important now (like whatever your ex or ex's did to you), won't seem that way after some number of years go by. It varies - it could be ten, twenty, thirty years. Eventually most of the people who remembered the stupid stuff that you did or the bad things that happened to you will have passed. At 45 I could not imagine being 65. Now that I'm 68; well it's here, and it's all moot in the end.

Somebody on the train is thinking, "My goddamn girlfriend, wife, boyfriend, husband, son, daughter, in-laws, boss . . . oh well, time to consider some lunch."

https://images.cf.nycsubway.org/images/icon/title_ny_culver.jpg

That would be the worst counsellor advice ever: in twenty years you'll have gotten over it. That'll be $200 please

 

[NoTalentHack]

not bothered by cheating, but I read one story a couple years ago that really got my blood boiling.

It wasn't even that outlandish if a story. Basic cheating wife, husband finds out follows them and has his heart torn out when he sees them together.

I rarely have a visceral reaction to a story like that. It was just something about the writing that hit me particularly hard.

I wish I had noted the title or author because I'd love to tell them that it impacted me, respectfully, of course.

Come read a few of mine!

 

[gunhilltrain]

That would be the worst counsellor advice ever: in twenty years you'll have gotten over it. That'll be $200 please

Actually, it my case, it was more like thirty or forty years. And, not to be morbid about it, but as you accept your mortality - and sorry, most people age thirty-five, or forty-five don't really get it ("Oh, that's so far in the future!") - it does all become moot. Even age fifty-five, is not enough, I'd say.

And most of those counselors I've had, of all different types of training - yeah, I want most of my money back!

 

[NoTalentHack]

So I have a weird one of these. I wrote a story called "At the End of the Tour," about a guy that finds out his wife has been cheating on him sporadically for almost the whole time they've been together, since before they were even married. It takes place over about 48 hours and ends with a BTB; some violence towards the affair partner and a verbal smackdown for the wife. It's still my top performing story in terms of comments (getting close to 500 eight months later) and one of my highest rated in LW.

But people kept saying "It ends on a cliffhanger! (It didn't, it just ended without a full resolution) We need a sequel! We need her side of the story!" I finally gave in... sort of. The sequel/prequel, called "Funeral Dirge for a Fairytale," is told by the wife 20-odd years in the future, and it's the story of how she grew up, why she was able to convince herself the affair was okay, and then how she did everything she could to redeem herself, ending with a reconciliation between the two and the aftermath of that reconciliation. It did well, but not as well. Of the two, I like it just a bit better, although I love both of the stories.

The fun bit is that I've arranged them in a series, with Tour first and Dirge second. So I still get a bunch of comments that are like "That was awesome! Fuck yeah, she deserved to get burned! I'm glad to see manly men doing manly things!" on Tour, often followed by "What the fuck is this cuck shit? Why would you ruin a great story like that?!" on Dirge. Sometimes I even get them coming back to Tour and complaining there, too. It always brightens my day a little bit.

Watch out what you wish for, I guess.

 

[Djmac1031]

I wrote a 750 word story about a guy who gets shot after fucking the wife of a jealous man.

Pretty much every single comment was a variation on "I hope the bullet killed the bitch, too."

EDIT: I by no means meant to imply that by "Job done" I in anyway agree with their assessment that the wife deserved to be shot too.

Hell I don't even agree the guy deserved it.

Writing about something isn't an automatic condoning of it.

 

[lc69hunter]

Having recently finished my seven chapter dark-femdom NC/R short novel A Wife's Dark Talent I am trying to see the positive of having accumulated quite a few negative comments by readers. I am talking mostly about impassioned adverse reactions from a set of readers, that regardless kept on reading even as things kept getting darker and darker. There were numerous lengthy ones from a certain kind of reader advising the MMC on ways to rape, disable, and/or murder the FMC. I am not going to repost those, thought it does make you wonder the amount of people that can only think of physical violence--from a man towards a woman, no less--as a way to "even the score". Ignoring those, some of the other adverse comments that made me think "you felt your stomach churn, but were hooked enough to see it through, so job done" are:













So, recognizing that if your kind of writing is limited to wonderful people doing wonderful things, and scenarious that never buck conventions or expectations, you would never get that kind of comment, what stories of yours have provoked intense adverse reactions from your readers that make you feel like "mission accomplished"? What are those comments?

I am not into this genre, but just by accident, discovered "Beware of who you trust", and after reading part of chapter 1, I have saved to read at my leisure

 

[NoTalentHack]

I'm working on a MC femdom/female empowerment story for the AI event. That's something way outside what I usually write, and I expect to get a LOT of "you're proving the point" comments on that one.