What's this nonsense about Dems using immigration to get Dem voters?

[Rightguide]

First, only citizens can vote, and an immigrant must reside in the U.S. seven years before he can apply for naturalization. (And no, noncitizens are NOT voting illegally.) Nobody thinks that far ahead in electoral politics.

Second, most immigrants are Latino -- and Latinos are not reliable Democratic voters. Too conservative culturally.

what’s next, pretending Chicago winters are a surprise? The idea that mass immigration has no political implications is either willful blindness or an Oscar-worthy performance in selective amnesia. Democrats have openly discussed demographic change as a long-term political strategy for years. Remember those glowing articles about the “Emerging Democratic Majority”? It’s not a conspiracy theory when party strategists write it down in memos and campaign on it. The playbook’s simple: import, enfranchise, and then moralize anyone who questions the process. It's not about compassion, it's about calculus. You know this as well.

 

[Politruk]

The idea that mass immigration has no political implications is either willful blindness or an Oscar-worthy performance in selective amnesia.

No implications that shore up the Dem vote, at any rate.

Democrats have openly discussed demographic change as a long-term political strategy for years. Remember those glowing articles about the “Emerging Democratic Majority”?

But that had nothing to do with immigration at all. It was about younger generations replacing older, and metro areas growing in population and importance.

 

[Rightguide]

No implications that shore up the Dem vote, at any rate.

But that had nothing to do with immigration at all. It was about younger generations replacing older, and metro areas growing in population and importance.

^^^
Shameless, cowardly, BS

 

[Politruk]

^^^
Shameless, cowardly, BS

You know I'm right. You always do.

 

[Rightguide]

You know I'm right. You always do.

You're the kind of guy who mistakes memorized slogans for wisdom and thinks conviction is a substitute for thought. Armed with nothing but indoctrination and a Wi-Fi signal, you goose-step your way into every conversation like a toddler in a minefield, and completely unaware you're the explosion.

 

[Politruk]

No implications that shore up the Dem vote, at any rate.

But that had nothing to do with immigration at all. It was about younger generations replacing older, and metro areas growing in population and importance.

You know I'm right about every word of that. ^^^^

 

[YDB95]

Democrats have openly discussed demographic change as a long-term political strategy for years.

If you had actually read any of the works you're alluding to here, you would know it had nothing to do with enfranchising immigrants, legal or not.

Well, on second thought, you probably wouldn't know that. You should, but we all know you always see what you want to see no matter what is actually there.

 

[Politruk]

If you had actually read any of the works you're alluding to here, you would know it had nothing to do with enfranchising immigrants, legal or not.

Well, on second thought, you probably wouldn't know that. You should, but we all know you always see what you want to see no matter what is actually there.

I think he means this.

The Emerging Democratic Majority is a 2002 book by John Judis and Ruy Teixeira which argued that certain demographic and social changes in the United States at the turn of the 21st century were creating a political landscape that favored the Democratic Party.[1][2] The book's thesis was later disavowed by both of its writers with differing explanations.

The book's central argument is that the Democratic Party would become dominant due to adherence to "a progressive centrism," an ideology that Teixeira later in November 2024 said was maintained by the party from the presidency of Bill Clinton to the beginning of Barack Obama's second term, and was discarded thereafter, leading to defeat in the presidential elections of 2016 and 2024.[3]

In 2015, in an essay The Emerging Republican Advantage,[4] Judis recanted his views in the book and argued that the long term Democratic majority had given way to an "unstable equilibrium" between the parties. He wrote that the long term Democratic Majority was gone as Hispanics and Asians were considerably less Democratic than he assumed and that white working class voters were abandoning the Democratic party.[5]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Chaos erupts as ICE raids office of top Democrat and detains staff

Chaotic scenes unfolded in lower Manhattan as federal agents stormed Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler's office and handcuffed a female staffer in dramatic video footage. The 77-year-old longtime (me love you illegals longtime) congressman erupted in fury after Department of Homeland Security officers burst into his office Wednesday before accusing his staff of 'harboring rioters' in scenes captured on video.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14769679/ice-raids-office-Jerrold-nadler-detains-staff.html

 

[Politruk]

Chaos erupts as ICE raids office of top Democrat and detains staff

Chaotic scenes unfolded in lower Manhattan as federal agents stormed Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler's office and handcuffed a female staffer in dramatic video footage. The 77-year-old longtime (me love you illegals longtime) congressman erupted in fury after Department of Homeland Security officers burst into his office Wednesday before accusing his staff of 'harboring rioters' in scenes captured on video.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14769679/ice-raids-office-Jerrold-nadler-detains-staff.html

Now they're attacking Congress, as Congress. That will not be long tolerated.

 

[Bray123]

Chaos erupts as ICE raids office of top Democrat and detains staff

Chaotic scenes unfolded in lower Manhattan as federal agents stormed Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler's office and handcuffed a female staffer in dramatic video footage. The 77-year-old longtime (me love you illegals longtime) congressman erupted in fury after Department of Homeland Security officers burst into his office Wednesday before accusing his staff of 'harboring rioters' in scenes captured on video.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14769679/ice-raids-office-Jerrold-nadler-detains-staff.html

It's almost as if what Trump promised (and what his followers discounted as 'jokes') has come to pass.

Dictator for a day? Come on, seriously.

 

[YDB95]

I think he means this.

I think so too. I bought and read that book when it came out, and setting aside the matter of whether it came true or not (it has not as of yet), it does argue that demographic changes will benefit the Dems but it doesn't say a single word about "importing" their base or anything even a little bit like that.

 

[Politruk]

Bumping this because I still see idiots insist that immigration is partisan-motivated.

 

[Politruk]

Some idiots still don't get it.

 

[Rick345]

It is a way to fire up their base. People in general aren’t enthusiastic about voting right or left, we know whoever we elect isn’t going to represent our interests: affordable healthcare, affordable housing, better paying jobs …

To make those kinds of things possible would be hard work, and politicians aren’t interested in hard work. They are interested in only two things: getting elected and getting reelected.

So they need a gimmick to get people to the polls, and the republicans used the abortion issue for years. Once that was changed to suit them, they needed another issue to fire up their base, and undocumented immigrants is an easy one. Making up stories that immigrants are getting welfare, food stamps, and are voting in elections is an easy way to get people fired up. The allegations don’t have to be true; they have to be said. Republicans feel it is their sacred duty to keep ‘Merica for Americans.

The nonsense that Dems are using immigration to get Dem voters is just a tool used by the right to get as many republicans to the polling stations in November as possible. A pretty effective tool.