No, the Dems are not encouraging immigration to get votes

[phrodeau]

Yes they are. The Democrats have put amnesty for illegals into the Infrastructure bill for that sole purpose of voting rights. The great percentage of immigrants are not Mexicans and come from all over the World.

Must be all those unplated buses with unlicensed drivers we see everywhere on Election Day.

 

[Wrong Element]

It should go without saying that there's nothing that prevents Republicans from competing for the votes of immigrants.

 

[pecksniff]

Yes they are, that's why they're subverting our immigration laws and screech bloody fucking murder over any law that might prevent an illegal immigrant from voting.

You're doing all you can to destroy our democracy

So it's a democracy now, and that's a good thing?

 

[pecksniff]

They don't need to vote. Just being here and included in the Census distorts democracy in the DNC's favor.

What you are describing is not distortion. Representation is based on general rather than citizen population because a district's needs correspond to the former, not the latter.

 

[pecksniff]

Sure they can, all they gotta do is request a mail in ballot, or just buy someone eles's.

And yet they don't. Perhaps because the risk is too high for the payoff. Voter fraud is like forging a Bed Bath & Beyond coupon -- and in this case, running the risk of deportation for doing so.

 

[pecksniff]

Exactly. Forcing the citizens to pay for the breeding of cockroaches.

 

[pecksniff]

Yes they are. The Democrats have put amnesty for illegals into the Infrastructure bill for that sole purpose of voting rights.

What proof do you have of any of that?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What you are describing is not distortion. Representation is based on general rather than citizen population because a district's needs correspond to the former, not the latter.

You state that as if it's self-evident. It is not. Why would illegals have a say in our government? They shouldn't. And it certainly validates my statement that this is being done to, first, skew House representation and EC votes, then to grant the franchise to the illegals so they can vote Dem.

 

[Rightguide]

What proof do you have of any of that?

Far-Left Democrats: No Infrastructure Bill Without Amnesty for Illegal Aliens
by Steven Ahle August 13, 2021 in Opinion, Politics

https://djhjmedia.com/steven/far-le...ture-bill-without-amnesty-for-illegal-aliens/

LINDSEY GRAHAM Published July 20
Lindsey Graham threatens to deny quorum to prevent amnesty in infrastructure bill
'The dumbest idea in all of Washington would be to grant amnesty in an infrastructure bill without first securing the border'
Fox News StaffBy Fox News Staff | Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/media/linds...amnesty-for-immigrants-in-infrastructure-bill

 

[bellisarius]

You state that as if it's self-evident. It is not. Why would illegals have a say in our government? They shouldn't. And it certainly validates my statement that this is being done to, first, skew House representation and EC votes, then to grant the franchise to the illegals so they can vote Dem.

Illegal aliens should NOT be counted for congressional apportionment purposes, period.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/00ed9d7235a4120956e540a5d720f301/dc492c7517fe4eff-76/s1280x1920/9fc90690a70b27efd7ea24794c656b3a7a74908e.png

The guy in Chicago is facing 120 years for selling on eBay (12 counts of stolen govt property), the bitch who forged like 400+ ballots got probation and a couple grand fine.

 

[CornusKousa]

So it's a democracy now, and that's a good thing?

It always has been, never argued otherwise.

It's a good thing according to you and those like you....why are you so supportive of undermining it??

 

[phrodeau]

Illegal aliens should NOT be counted for congressional apportionment purposes, period.

Because the Constitution says persons, not cockroaches, am I right?

 

[pecksniff]

Because the Constitution says persons, not cockroaches, am I right?

On behalf of Blattodean-Americans, I protest!

 

[YDB95]

They don't even need to vote. They are already counted in the Census for purposes of apportionment. This not only skews Congress, it also skews the Electoral College vote every four years.

Since the Electoral College already violates the one person - one vote principle in the first place, cry me a river.

(Not to mention the majority of illegal immigrants probably end up in larger states that are already disenfranchised in the Electoral College, so if anything that's helping the Republicans.)

 

[pecksniff]

You state that as if it's self-evident. It is not.

Of course it is self-evident that a district's needs correspond to its actual population.

And immigration only expands blue-state representation if the immigrants go there, which they don't necessarily; they go wherever the jobs are.

 

[CornusKousa]

So it's a democracy now, and that's a good thing?

It's a good thing according to you and those like you....why are you so supportive of undermining it??

^^ Notice peck ran from that one as fast as he could!! Suddenly Democracy is no good when leftist who hate the USA as much as peck don't like it!!

Imagine that

Of course it is self-evident that a district's needs correspond to its actual population.

Peck finally admits the left is subverting our democracy so that they can manipulate our democracy, to get power to force ideas that the US citizenry doesn't want.

Thanks for admitting just how fucking evil the leftist (D)eez are.

And immigration only expands blue-state representation if the immigrants go there, which they don't necessarily; they go wherever the jobs are.

And with red states/cities prosecuting them and blue states/cities giving them "sanctuary".....where do you think the majority of them go??

If (D)'eez didn't have their subversion of our democracy they wouldn't have much.

 

[Champakian]

All of this would go away if we did two things:

Make eVerify mandatory and severely punish employers who hire illegals
or do nor do due diligence in verifying their proffered documentation...

Then the Democrat Party would have to reform their reliance upon their economic hostages.

 

[CornusKousa]

All of this would go away if we did two things:

Make eVerify mandatory and severely punish employers who hire illegals
or do nor do due diligence in verifying their proffered documentation...

Then the Democrat Party would have to reform their reliance upon their economic hostages.

I'm not so sure even that would get them to stop subverting US immigration laws.

It would hit them in the wallet, but is that enough for them to give up the votes???

 

[Champakian]

I rather suspect that those who now control the Democrat Party
are not adverse to the idea of the US devolving into more of a
third-world status. Third-world nations tend to one-party rule...

 

[WillJ8787]

Most immigrants are Latino, and, socially conservative as they tend to be, they have demonstrated the Dems cannot count on their vote. It would make no sense.

And, of course, immigrants are only potential voters anyway. That has to wait on citizenship. Nobody is busing them to the polls to vote illegally.

Gotta love the gaslighting and propaganda on this issue....the folks that believe this stuff are not too bright!

 

[CornusKousa]

Gotta love the gaslighting and propaganda on this issue....the folks that believe this stuff are not too bright!

So then why else are the (D)'eez subverting our democracy to bring in and shelter illegal migrants AND make sure there is nothing preventing them from voting??

 

[YDB95]

Gotta love the gaslighting and propaganda on this issue....the folks that believe this stuff are not too bright!

Don't assume they really believe it. All this nonsense about "the Democrat Party and their hostages" is a wonderful way for the right to convince themselves that they're not the racists here.

 

[CornusKousa]

Don't assume they really believe it. All this nonsense about "the Democrat Party and their hostages" is a wonderful way for the right to convince themselves that they're not the racists here.

It's not an issue of racism.

 

[WillJ8787]

So then why else are the (D)'eez subverting our democracy to bring in and shelter illegal migrants AND make sure there is nothing preventing them from voting??

They are not...don't believe.eveythong you hear on right wing am radio and the internet...those.foks.make money of you listening (market share).