Immigration is a non-problem

[Politruk]

Some on this board demand to know what Harris would do about immigration, but in fact there is no reason why she should do anything differently than how it's done now. It is not a problem to solve. Immigrants, legal or illegal, are not bringing in disease . . they are not bringing crime, they actually are more law-abiding than native citizens . . . they're not burdening public service without paying taxes . . . they're not even trying to vote illegally . . .

Immigration does drive down working-class wages. That is the only downside to it -- and even there, it's really not all that bad.

The Republicans -- and I mean the voters, not the pols -- should feel really deeply ashamed of how they scuttled W's immigration-reform bill in 2007. That was pure xenophobia and nativism, there was no excuse at all for it.

 

[Politruk]

This would never even have been a hot issue, and the Minutemen would not exist, if the immigration pressure were coming from Canada instead of Mexico.

And that is not because Canadians speak English.

 

[Politruk]

You know, in a mature and reasonable society, Trump's immigration speech in 2016 would have made it impossible for him ever to get elected to a county water-management board.

And I don't mean the "they're rapists" lies. He should have been forever discredited and disqualified just for saying "They're not sending their best."

Nobody is sending immigrants here. No country's government has a Department of Emigration.

 

[ShandyLeer]

You can’t wish away the notion that Dems have a big issue with immigration just by telling them it’s not an issue they need be concerned about.

The status quo is that lots of people, as in difference making swathes of people, are already concerned about it - rightly or wrongly - despite your ‘nothing to see here” message being broadcast constantly for years.

You are trying to prevent a blaze starting that’s already took light, and need an extinguisher not a lecture on fire safety if you’re to be taken seriously.

Republicans have completely blown up the chance of major progress on everything to do with ‘border’ issues - to better Trumps chances in November - and Harris’s message has to be a commitment to overcome Republican undermining. Or she can go your route, tell everyone to just suck it up, and Melania will be choosing White House wallpaper in a month.

 

[Politruk]

You can’t wish away the notion that Dems have a big issue with immigration just by telling them it’s not an issue they need be concerned about.

The status quo is that lots of people, as in difference making swathes of people, are already concerned about it - rightly or wrongly - despite your ‘nothing to see here” message being broadcast constantly for years.

You are trying to prevent a blaze starting that’s already took light, and need an extinguisher not a lecture on fire safety if you’re to be taken seriously.

Republicans have completely blown up the chance of major progress on everything to do with ‘border’ issues - to better Trumps chances in November - and Harris’s message has to be a commitment to overcome Republican undermining. Or she can go your route, tell everyone to just suck it up, and Melania will be choosing White House wallpaper in a month.

I recall reading in Rick Perlstein's The Invisible Bridge: the Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan: Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev once said to Reagan, "If the people think there is a river over there, you do not tell them there is no river. You build them an invisible bridge to go with the invisible river."

 

[Politruk]

There's also a lot of nonsense to the effect that Democrats want a loose immigration policy to increase the number of Dem voters.

First, only citizens can vote, and an immigrant must reside in the U.S. seven years before he can apply for naturalization. (And no, noncitizens are NOT voting illegally.) Nobody thinks that far ahead in electoral politics.

Second, most immigrants are Latino -- and Latinos are not reliable Democratic voters. Too conservative culturally.

 

[Politruk]

You know, for much of American history, an immigrant could just step off the boat and go looking for work. No passport checked. No green card required.

The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 was the first immigration-control legislation in American history.

 

[Politruk]

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[Buffalogurl]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...rrest-5-illegal-immigrants-violent-sex-crimes
Yupper these poor downtrodden wetbacks just want a better life......Politruk, you are full of shit about the illegal aliens
May you and yours receive a full measure of the illegal alien experience........
Enjoy your day paying off other people's debt and paying for the well-being of the illegal aliens

 

[Politruk]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...rrest-5-illegal-immigrants-violent-sex-crimes
Yupper these poor downtrodden wetbacks just want a better life......Politruk, you are full of shit about the illegal aliens
May you and yours receive a full measure of the illegal alien experience........
Enjoy your day paying off other people's debt and paying for the well-being of the illegal aliens

Zero Hedge = Zero Credibility.

Here's where to go for the facts.

 

[Politruk]

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[Rightguide]

Some on this board demand to know what Harris would do about immigration, but in fact there is no reason why she should do anything differently than how it's done now. It is not a problem to solve. Immigrants, legal or illegal, are not bringing in disease . . they are not bringing crime, they actually are more law-abiding than native citizens . . . they're not burdening public service without paying taxes . . . they're not even trying to vote illegally . . .

Immigration does drive down working-class wages. That is the only downside to it -- and even there, it's really not all that bad.

The Republicans -- and I mean the voters, not the pols -- should feel really deeply ashamed of how they scuttled W's immigration-reform bill in 2007. That was pure xenophobia and nativism, there was no excuse at all for it.

^^^
Crazed lunatic.

 

[Politruk]

^^^
Crazed lunatic.

And the immigrants are all better than you.

 

[Buffalogurl]

https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/logansport-indiana-begs-for-help-with-migrant-influx/
More shitfuckery from the current crime family in power destroying good American families and their cities using sub humans as a weapon/battering ram.......
Enjoy your day paying off other people's debt and paying for the well-being of the illegal aliens.......

 

[Bn2f]

https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/logansport-indiana-begs-for-help-with-migrant-influx/
More shitfuckery from the current crime family in power destroying good American families and their cities using sub humans as a weapon/battering ram.......
Enjoy your day paying off other people's debt and paying for the well-being of the illegal aliens.......

BG?
What makes your family a good American one?

 

[Politruk]

the current crime family in power

Don Joe? Not even you believe that.

destroying good American families and their cities using sub humans as a weapon/battering ram.......

The subhumans are citizens, and they vote Republican.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

You’re right!

Immigration is a non-problem.

Illegal immigration is.

You need me to explain the difference? I know you’re very confused about how our government works. I’m guessing immigration isn’t any different.

 

[Politruk]

You’re right!

Immigration is a non-problem.

Illegal immigration is.

You need me to explain the difference? I know you’re very confused about how our government works. I’m guessing immigration isn’t any different.

No, illegal immigration is still a non-problem. It has no consequences that are bad for American society.

Anyway, most "illegals" are just people who entered legally and overstayed their visas. It's not a border-control problem.

And you are exactly the kind of worthless animal who tanked immigration reform in 2007.

 

[Politruk]

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[Buffalogurl]

Don Joe? Not even you believe that.

The subhumans are citizens, and they vote Republican.

https://www.wptv.com/news/palm-beac...ar-old-palm-beach-county-sheriffs-office-says
Politruk..... your drunk on stupid..... here's two more destroyed lives that the current crime family in power is responsible for. These sub humans will continue to destroy lives and what’s left of this once fine nation.... remember your words when you receive a full measure of the wetback experience..... parasites always kill their hosts......
Enjoy your day paying off other people's debt and paying for the well-being of the illegal aliens sucking up valuable resources that hampers real Americans ..... these are your replacements
what will be the glorious part of this entire situation will be the look on your face when you realize this cancer has f@#ked you

 

[Politruk]

wetback

What year do you think this is?

Enjoy your day paying off other people's debt and paying for the well-being of the illegal aliens sucking up valuable resources that hampers real Americans ..... these are your replacements

All lies. As you should know, by this point in the thread.

 

[Politruk]

I should hope nobody here takes the Great Replacement theory seriously. Nor the white genocide.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Melania will NOT be moving into the White House! She’s not as crazy as the cult.

Immigration IS an issue! That is what is driving Trumplikkkans Replacement Theory! It’s what Trumplikkkans will give up all of our rights to “correct” I sure that after creating camps for all the terrible illegals and hiring goon squads El Emperioso Magnifico ‘Rump will just sit back and feel good about the purity of ‘merikan blood. Just let him have a third term for himself and JR!!

JD? Watch your back!!

 

[Politruk]

Immigration IS an issue!

It is an issue. It is not a problem.

 

[Politruk]

Melania will NOT be moving into the White House! She’s not as crazy as the cult.

I guess she could stay in New York.