What makes you submissive?

[CTGalPal]

Ok, please bear with me...this is my first thread.

The Dom/sub world has definitely intrigued me. I am curious what makes submissives the way they are. I believe I am a submissive for the sheer
fact that I love to be dominated sexually. I do not want to take command
but want to be commanded on what to do.

I believe my shyness and possibly my very strict sheltered Catholic upbringing
has made me this way. In my career, I am very dominant but at home or in the bedroom I relinquish all control and beg for someone to tell me what to do.

How do you know if you are one or not? And please forgive my naive question and I mean no insult to any one.

Just curious about these feelings I have...

 

[FurryFury]

Ok, please bear with me...this is my first thread.

The Dom/sub world has definitely intrigued me. I am curious what makes submissives the way they are. I believe I am a submissive for the sheer
fact that I love to be dominated sexually. I do not want to take command
but want to be commanded on what to do.

I believe my shyness and possibly my very strict sheltered Catholic upbringing
has made me this way. In my career, I am very dominant but at home or in the bedroom I relinquish all control and beg for someone to tell me what to do.

How do you know if you are one or not? And please forgive my naive question and I mean no insult to any one.

Just curious about these feelings I have...

Hi CTGalPal and welcome,

IMO no one knows what makes people be submissive or Dominant. What makes one person straight and another gay or bi? No one really knows. You can look at your life history or your genetics and postulate but you can't say with absolute certainty. Despite what many assume I believe just as many vanilla people have be sexually or emotionally abused as kinky. Therefore, I think it's wise just to explore what your desires and needs are and accept yourself. That's not saying you can't want to improve in certain aspects but I do believe in just accepting, yes, I am kinky, nilla or whatever it is you eventually find you are.

Many submissive's are as you describe in the rest of their lives, very in charge. Others are not. So that doesn't really mean you are or you are not.

Only you will know what you are and when you are sure of it. Opening up to the possibilities and exploring is a first crucial step. In time, I believe you will know what you are. Just remember to enjoy the journey along the way until you get to that understanding. That's my two cents take it with a grain of salt.

Fury

 

[CTGalPal]

Hi CTGalPal and welcome,

IMO no one knows what makes people be submissive or Dominant. What makes one person straight and another gay or bi? No one really knows. You can look at your life history or your genetics and postulate but you can't say with absolute certainty. Despite what many assume I believe just as many vanilla people have be sexually or emotionally abused as kinky. Therefore, I think it's wise just to explore what your desires and needs are and accept yourself. That's not saying you can't want to improve in certain aspects but I do believe in just accepting, yes, I am kinky, nilla or whatever it is you eventually find you are.

Many submissive's are as you describe in the rest of their lives, very in charge. Others are not. So that doesn't really mean you are or you are not.

Only you will know what you are and when you are sure of it. Opening up to the possibilities and exploring is a first crucial step. In time, I believe you will know what you are. Just remember to enjoy the journey along the way until you get to that understanding. That's my two cents take it with a grain of salt.

Fury

Thank you for the thoughtful response...it helps a lot.

I know I analyze things waaaaaaaaay too much.

It's reassuring if others will step up and acknowledge that they are
scared to accept this part of their life and willing to explore the
possibilities.

So how does one find a Dom? (just joking!!!)

I hope this thread helps others who are like me and just "starting out" and
wanting more information and to share with others their thoughts and fears.

 

[Xelebes]

I like my cookies in milk. I think this the reason why I think I am maybe a possible hypothetical submissive.

 

[CTGalPal]

I like my cookies in milk. I think this the reason why I think I am maybe a possible hypothetical submissive.

Do you dunk them fully down or do you gently rim the cookie in your milk???

 

[Xelebes]

Nah, I milk them.

 

[CTGalPal]

Nah, I milk them.

LOL

 

[FurryFury]

Thank you for the thoughtful response...it helps a lot.

I know I analyze things waaaaaaaaay too much.

It's reassuring if others will step up and acknowledge that they are
scared to accept this part of their life and willing to explore the
possibilities.

So how does one find a Dom? (just joking!!!)

I hope this thread helps others who are like me and just "starting out" and
wanting more information and to share with others their thoughts and fears.

That would make a great thread! *smiles*

You may have just been kidding about finding a Dom but I will give you what I think is the best advice in that area. Find a local group and attend a munch. That is a meal with other kinky people in your area. You go in normal clothes and you don't do anything but eat and meet people.

When you get comfortable with them you might attend a seminar or play party and again you don't have to do anything you don't want to.

Now let's say you do this and it helps you explore some of the things you are interested in, isn't that great? You might even meet the perfect Dom but even if you don't, even if you don't click with anyone and don't continue to attend you've still learned more than you knew, right?

Another way is to list at some online services. Many have found the right one that way but, you have to go through a lot of Asshats before you find your special one if ever.

If I were single, I would do just what I have advised here. Hey, I'm not single BUT I am going to attend a munch with my husband very soon. I finally connected with a local group. I'm very excited about it!

Online you can play at things and research. Online relationships can be very emotional and wonderful but of course doing in RL is a whole different thing. It's quite different to know how you would deal with something than to imagine however deliciously what your reactions would be. I've enjoyed some of both and I want more.

Fury

 

[DVS]

Ok, please bear with me...this is my first thread.

The Dom/sub world has definitely intrigued me. I am curious what makes submissives the way they are. I believe I am a submissive for the sheer
fact that I love to be dominated sexually. I do not want to take command
but want to be commanded on what to do.

I believe my shyness and possibly my very strict sheltered Catholic upbringing
has made me this way. In my career, I am very dominant but at home or in the bedroom I relinquish all control and beg for someone to tell me what to do.

How do you know if you are one or not? And please forgive my naive question and I mean no insult to any one.

Just curious about these feelings I have...

Well, I'd say you are submissive. Unless you are wanting to put on a strap-on and bend some man over a table, you are submissive. But, why is difficult to say. A lot of our thoughts are started as kids. How strict our parents were, how we related to our childhood friends...if we had many childhood friends, etc.

And, becuase everybody is different, the same situation will often be seen differently by two people. Where one might thrive and have no problem with one scenario, another could see it as disturbing and be affected by it for the rest of their llife. The human brain is a very interesting, but tricky part of the body.

and, as FF says, a lot of women who are strong in the rest of their lives, can be submissive in their sexual lives. Men are the same way. A lot of executive types are actually submissives in their sexual ways.

I once had a sub that was very outgoing. She was once very powerful in the corporate world and was requiried to hold her own with men in boardroom settings. She wasn't very large, and that made it even more difficult. But, she didn't take any shit from those men, and thrived in her job.

The business world she lived in during the day had nothing to do with sex, but she was forced to use deceit and constantly watch her back, for the men trying to cut her down.

But, when it came to sex, she wanted the man to take charge. She just wanted to be told what to do and she enjoyed doing or giving her partner what he wanted from her. Taking his pain, being used for his pleasure and performing kinky sexual favors for him turned her on and she felt cared for and wanted as a sexual woman.

Not all submissives are powerfuil in the rest of their lives. Some are quiet people, and don't seem to want to express themselves for fear of either being put down or because they feel less intelligent than those around them. I sometimes wonder if there is a strong woman behind that wall they've built up over the years...because of possible abuse in their childhood or maybe just a strict parent. I like to think with the right partner, that strong woman could come out of her shell, but it would take an awful lot of trust.

Trust is the word that makes BDSM work. If you trust your partner, it's more likely that you will get along better, maybe try more kinky things together and then also more than likely start to understand yourself that much more, too.

 

[CTGalPal]

That would make a great thread! *smiles*

You may have just been kidding about finding a Dom but I will give you what I think is the best advice in that area. Find a local group and attend a munch. That is a meal with other kinky people in your area. You go in normal clothes and you don't do anything but eat and meet people.

When you get comfortable with them you might attend a seminar or play party and again you don't have to do anything you don't want to.

Now let's say you do this and it helps you explore some of the things you are interested in, isn't that great? You might even meet the perfect Dom but even if you don't, even if you don't click with anyone and don't continue to attend you've still learned more than you knew, right?

Another way is to list at some online services. Many have found the right one that way but, you have to go through a lot of Asshats before you find your special one if ever.

If I were single, I would do just what I have advised here. Hey, I'm not single BUT I am going to attend a munch with my husband very soon. I finally connected with a local group. I'm very excited about it!

Online you can play at things and research. Online relationships can be very emotional and wonderful but of course doing in RL is a whole different thing. It's quite different to know how you would deal with something than to imagine however deliciously what your reactions would be. I've enjoyed some of both and I want more.

Fury

Those are GREAT ideas...love them.

I am exploring on here first to see what I can learn from others and how to approach this new path I am taking.

Now are you a sub and the husband a Dom?

 

[CTGalPal]

Well, I'd say you are submissive. Unless you are wanting to put on a strap-on and bend some man over a table, you are submissive. But, why is difficult to say. A lot of our thoughts are started as kids. How strict our parents were, how we related to our childhood friends...if we had many childhood friends, etc.

And, becuase everybody is different, the same situation will often be seen differently by two people. Where one might thrive and have no problem with one scenario, another could see it as disturbing and be affected by it for the rest of their llife. The human brain is a very interesting, but tricky part of the body.

and, as FF says, a lot of women who are strong in the rest of their lives, can be submissive in their sexual lives. Men are the same way. A lot of executive types are actually submissives in their sexual ways.

I once had a sub that was very outgoing. She was once very powerful in the corporate world and was requiried to hold her own with men in boardroom settings. She wasn't very large, and that made it even more difficult. But, she didn't take any shit from those men, and thrived in her job.

The business world she lived in during the day had nothing to do with sex, but she was forced to use deceit and constantly watch her back, for the men trying to cut her down.

But, when it came to sex, she wanted the man to take charge. She just wanted to be told what to do and she enjoyed doing or giving her partner what he wanted from her. Taking his pain, being used for his pleasure and performing kinky sexual favors for him turned her on and she felt cared for and wanted as a sexual woman.

Not all submissives are powerfuil in the rest of their lives. Some are quiet people, and don't seem to want to express themselves for fear of either being put down or because they feel less intelligent than those around them. I sometimes wonder if there is a strong woman behind that wall they've built up over the years...because of possible abuse in their childhood or maybe just a strict parent. I like to think with the right partner, that strong woman could come out of her shell, but it would take an awful lot of trust.

Trust is the word that makes BDSM work. If you trust your partner, it's more likely that you will get along better, maybe try more kinky things together and then also more than likely start to understand yourself that much more, too.

Ok is it wrong that one of the things I want to explore is a strap-on or dildo play with a man??? It's not even a powerful sexual feeling for me, just curiosity and possibly a bit of the sadistic in me coming out?

Would I be a switch? Is that what they call both a Dom who can revert to a sub and vice versa?

 

[FurryFury]

Those are GREAT ideas...love them.

I am exploring on here first to see what I can learn from others and how to approach this new path I am taking.

Now are you a sub and the husband a Dom?

*takes a deep breath*

It's not that simple in my life. LOL.

My husband is not a Dom. He doesn't want to be. He feels like a sub.

I am not a Domme. I don't want to be. I feel like a sub.

Therefore, sometimes he takes charge for me and sometimes I take charge for him.

However we still consider ourselves subs and not switches because what we want deep inside ourselves is to be submissive sexually and to make the other person happy. That is what everything we do stems from.

Fury

Ok is it wrong that one of the things I want to explore is a strap-on or dildo play with a man??? It's not even a powerful sexual feeling for me, just curiosity and possibly a bit of the sadistic in me coming out?

Would I be a switch? Is that what they call both a Dom who can revert to a sub and vice versa?

No, you are not necessarily a switch because you want to do strap on play with a man. A man who is into strap on play is not necessarily a sub either. I know of at least one case in which a female sub was given the task of fucking her Dom with a strap on.

A LOT of men have this fantasy. Poor thangs often can't find a woman to pleasure them.

You can also be sadistic and a sub, I am. For a while I wondered if I were a switch, a Domme or a sub, it took me some experimenting and time to figure this out for myself.

Fury

 

[DVS]

*takes a deep breath*

It's not that simple in my life. LOL.

My husband is not a Dom. He doesn't want to be. He feels like a sub.

I am not a Domme. I don't want to be. I feel like a sub.

Therefore, sometimes he takes charge for me and sometimes I take charge for him.

However we still consider ourselves subs and not switches because what we want deep inside ourselves is to be submissive sexually and to make the other person happy. That is what everything we do stems from.

Fury



No, you are not necessarily a switch because you want to do strap on play with a man. A man who is into strap on play is not necessarily a sub either. I know of at least one case in which a female sub was given the task of fucking her Dom with a strap on.

A LOT of men have this fantasy. Poor thangs often can't find a woman to pleasure them.

You can also be sadistic and a sub, I am. For a while I wondered if I were a switch, a Domme or a sub, it took me some experimenting and time to figure this out for myself.

Fury

I don't know, FF. If she feels the desire to put on a strap-on and find her a man to do it to, she could be a switch. I think what you are talking about is if a Dom she was with wanted her to do him that way, she would enjoy doing it because he wanted her to. But, if it's her own idea and she feels she would enjoy taking charge that way and being in control of another person, she culd be a switch.

And all of this is difficult for someone else to decide. We can all give our opinions, but it is up to you to decide what you really feel and then put a label to it. Oh God, there's that dreadful word...label. You don't need to label yourself, if you don't want to, but to find someone that's right for you, you will need to know what you like and also to express those feelings to another person. I don't like labels, but you will have to explore things enough that you know what you want from this BDSM thing.

Everybody is so different, there are no two people exactly the same. If you think you might be a switch, that's cool. A true switch can play either way, but sometimes they have a preference for being either submissive or dominant. And, like FF said, you can be a submissive and still like doing things a dominant would enjoy. But, I think you would be enjoying them for different reasons. So, are you confused yet?

 

[FurryFury]

Yes, you are right DVS, she could be a switch. She just has to find out what she is little by little.

At one time I sure thought I must be a switch but then, like you said I realized I enjoyed doing things like taking charge for him because it gave him pleasure.

Even what I recently did out of the bedroom that I thought was for me, it dawned on me today was also partly if not more so for him! Honestly, this just really surprised me when it hit me. I asked him for my birthday not to spend money on jewelry for me like he usually does. I asked him instead for a new countertop for the kitchen, you may remember me talking about that on here somewhere.

For Christmas I again asked for something for the kitchen. Just recently I bought in island for the kitchen which is beautiful because he liked it.

So, I'm walking through the kitchen this morning which is just transformed by all of this and it hits me, I don't spend much time in the kitchen. Who spends a lot of time in the kitchen? HIM! He loves the changes! He's so happy about it. Doh! Was this just another way to please him and I'm just now figuring that out? Maybe so.

So that's kind of cool and kind of freaky IMO.

Fury

 

[chelseachained]

Heady stuff

I find it absolutely fascinating to hear of the journey of discovery by others.
Some of us have always known what we are, some are led to the truth, and for some it is an aquired taste (in an effort to please another but perhaps not heartfelt) There are so many layers of submission, though for me sexual submission is not the main attraction. (not complaining however smiles)
The mental exchange for me is such a heady and all consuming bond.
In the beginning I was in a vanilla relationship and when he led me down this path I knew a completeness that had previously eluded me. That was a very long term real life relationship (17 years) I was on hiatus after that. Regrouping so to speak and ventured into the online world. My online relationship was very suprizingly intense. We went from keyboard, to telephone, and after about 6 months met for real. On that first meeting which was to be a brief weekend, we were both a bit apprehensive at first but quickly discovered a familiarity. I was so accustomed to hearing his voice in my ear that(this will sound funny) all i had to do was close my eyes and hear his words to find my comfort level. That weekend turned into a week laughing.
Thought i was going to need a crowbar to get him out of my house. It is now 2 and 1/2 years that we are together. real on the weekends. "electronically"
during the week. So it shall have to remain for awhile longer. but i found both of these examples an easy transition. I will caution you to be very very careful. There are truly alot of nuts out there. Good luck to you.

 

[DVS]

Ok is it wrong that one of the things I want to explore is a strap-on or dildo play with a man??? It's not even a powerful sexual feeling for me, just curiosity and possibly a bit of the sadistic in me coming out?

Would I be a switch? Is that what they call both a Dom who can revert to a sub and vice versa?

Like I said in the post above, it all depends on why you think you would enjoy doing this strap-on thing. Some people enjoy certain things so much, that they think all people will and want to introduce them to it, so they can experience the same great sensations.

That can sometimes happen, but not always. Some Doms don't like being the receiver of anal sex. I'm one of those. Not that I wouldn't some day, with the right woman, but up to this point in time, that right woman has not come along. I don't totally count it out, but it's not something I desire.

But, some Doms do enjoy being taken that way, and enjoy having their submissive do the honors. When doing it this way, the Dom feels he's still in contril and the sub is only doing her submissive task of taking her man's ass, because he has told her to. She simply enjoys giving him what he enjoys.

If you enjoy the idea of finding a submissive male or maybe a male switch that would enjoy being dominated by you and your strap-on, that could be more of an act a Domme would enjoy...and so you could be a bit of a switch.

Taking control beccause you want to, and not because someone else has asked you to and you want to do it because they would enjoy it...the desire is yours and not from a suggestion of someone else. That's more of a dominant feeling...to enjoy the control, the power, the act of giving instead of receiving.

And, you said you don;t have a strong urge for this, but that's OK, too. In time, that part of you might come out stronger. You are just finding out about yourselff in this way and you might find out some things about you that you had no idea you even enjoyed. There are so many different things that you might not know about that reading would maybe be something you could do to educate you about some of the different things.

One thing to remember is don't try to limit yourself because you feel you are one way. You can enjoy many different things. There are no rules you need to follow. If it feels good to you, enjoy it. Don't give a damn to poeple who try to limit you. Be as kinky as you feel the need to be. You will have a much more healthy sex life and it will also reflect on the rest of your life in a favorable way.

 

[CTGalPal]

*takes a deep breath*

It's not that simple in my life. LOL.

My husband is not a Dom. He doesn't want to be. He feels like a sub.

I am not a Domme. I don't want to be. I feel like a sub.

Therefore, sometimes he takes charge for me and sometimes I take charge for him.

However we still consider ourselves subs and not switches because what we want deep inside ourselves is to be submissive sexually and to make the other person happy. That is what everything we do stems from.

Fury



No, you are not necessarily a switch because you want to do strap on play with a man. A man who is into strap on play is not necessarily a sub either. I know of at least one case in which a female sub was given the task of fucking her Dom with a strap on.

A LOT of men have this fantasy. Poor thangs often can't find a woman to pleasure them.

You can also be sadistic and a sub, I am. For a while I wondered if I were a switch, a Domme or a sub, it took me some experimenting and time to figure this out for myself.

Fury

That is really interesting. So you're both subs with no Dom's unless one of you takes control. Interesting. Now would you both be looking for a Dom for both of you?

Or am I confusing myself???

 

[CTGalPal]

I don't know, FF. If she feels the desire to put on a strap-on and find her a man to do it to, she could be a switch. I think what you are talking about is if a Dom she was with wanted her to do him that way, she would enjoy doing it because he wanted her to. But, if it's her own idea and she feels she would enjoy taking charge that way and being in control of another person, she culd be a switch.

And all of this is difficult for someone else to decide. We can all give our opinions, but it is up to you to decide what you really feel and then put a label to it. Oh God, there's that dreadful word...label. You don't need to label yourself, if you don't want to, but to find someone that's right for you, you will need to know what you like and also to express those feelings to another person. I don't like labels, but you will have to explore things enough that you know what you want from this BDSM thing.

Everybody is so different, there are no two people exactly the same. If you think you might be a switch, that's cool. A true switch can play either way, but sometimes they have a preference for being either submissive or dominant. And, like FF said, you can be a submissive and still like doing things a dominant would enjoy. But, I think you would be enjoying them for different reasons. So, are you confused yet?

I think there is only one person I ever wanted to try a strap-on with and it was more sadistic thoughts and causing pain than anything.

I strongly believe I am a submissive.

But interesting thought about possibly being a switch. I will have to explore that too.

 

[CTGalPal]

I find it absolutely fascinating to hear of the journey of discovery by others.
Some of us have always known what we are, some are led to the truth, and for some it is an aquired taste (in an effort to please another but perhaps not heartfelt) There are so many layers of submission, though for me sexual submission is not the main attraction. (not complaining however smiles)
The mental exchange for me is such a heady and all consuming bond.
In the beginning I was in a vanilla relationship and when he led me down this path I knew a completeness that had previously eluded me. That was a very long term real life relationship (17 years) I was on hiatus after that. Regrouping so to speak and ventured into the online world. My online relationship was very suprizingly intense. We went from keyboard, to telephone, and after about 6 months met for real. On that first meeting which was to be a brief weekend, we were both a bit apprehensive at first but quickly discovered a familiarity. I was so accustomed to hearing his voice in my ear that(this will sound funny) all i had to do was close my eyes and hear his words to find my comfort level. That weekend turned into a week laughing.
Thought i was going to need a crowbar to get him out of my house. It is now 2 and 1/2 years that we are together. real on the weekends. "electronically"
during the week. So it shall have to remain for awhile longer. but i found both of these examples an easy transition. I will caution you to be very very careful. There are truly alot of nuts out there. Good luck to you.

Thank you for your advice and sharing your experience on here.

I hope others will feel comfortable to express themselves about their experiences or "secret" fantasy of wanting to be a sub or a Dom.

It's such a taboo subject and I just want to explore and bring it all out into the open.

Come back and share some more wonderful advice any time!!!

 

[FurryFury]

That is really interesting. So you're both subs with no Dom's unless one of you takes control. Interesting. Now would you both be looking for a Dom for both of you?

Or am I confusing myself???

No, you have it right.

I've certainly thought about that. After we network with our local kinky sorts, you never know what might happen. I'd prefer a couple who were both Dominant if I could have my fantasy druthers!

Fury

 

[CTGalPal]

Like I said in the post above, it all depends on why you think you would enjoy doing this strap-on thing. Some people enjoy certain things so much, that they think all people will and want to introduce them to it, so they can experience the same great sensations.

That can sometimes happen, but not always. Some Doms don't like being the receiver of anal sex. I'm one of those. Not that I wouldn't some day, with the right woman, but up to this point in time, that right woman has not come along. I don't totally count it out, but it's not something I desire.

But, some Doms do enjoy being taken that way, and enjoy having their submissive do the honors. When doing it this way, the Dom feels he's still in contril and the sub is only doing her submissive task of taking her man's ass, because he has told her to. She simply enjoys giving him what he enjoys.

If you enjoy the idea of finding a submissive male or maybe a male switch that would enjoy being dominated by you and your strap-on, that could be more of an act a Domme would enjoy...and so you could be a bit of a switch.

Taking control beccause you want to, and not because someone else has asked you to and you want to do it because they would enjoy it...the desire is yours and not from a suggestion of someone else. That's more of a dominant feeling...to enjoy the control, the power, the act of giving instead of receiving.

And, you said you don;t have a strong urge for this, but that's OK, too. In time, that part of you might come out stronger. You are just finding out about yourselff in this way and you might find out some things about you that you had no idea you even enjoyed. There are so many different things that you might not know about that reading would maybe be something you could do to educate you about some of the different things.

One thing to remember is don't try to limit yourself because you feel you are one way. You can enjoy many different things. There are no rules you need to follow. If it feels good to you, enjoy it. Don't give a damn to poeple who try to limit you. Be as kinky as you feel the need to be. You will have a much more healthy sex life and it will also reflect on the rest of your life in a favorable way.

I agree with you...I still strongly believe that I am a submissive because that strong urge to be dominant and controlling is only with one man who infuriates me beyond belief and it has nothing to do with sex but just a strong emotion and stubborness I have for him.

But with my other sexual relationships, I have always been timid and shy in bed and waiting for direction from the man in what he wants.

 

[CTGalPal]

No, you have it right.

I've certainly thought about that. After we network with our local kinky sorts, you never know what might happen. I'd prefer a couple who were both Dominant if I could have my fantasy druthers!

Fury

I hope you find them!!!

But what an interesting concept. Did you both explore this world together or did it just happen for the two of you?

 

[FurryFury]

I hope you find them!!!

But what an interesting concept. Did you both explore this world together or did it just happen for the two of you?

I only began to realize what my base fantasies all these years meant last year, when I started role playing online, which lead to cyber and BDSM. He allowed me the absolute freedom to do as I wished.

That lead to a woman who constantly wanted to do kinky things with him. He's been about to "come out" able what he wants because of my sudden openness about them.

It's been a great year plus now!

Fury

 

[CTGalPal]

I only began to realize what my base fantasies all these years meant last year, when I started role playing online, which lead to cyber and BDSM. He allowed me the absolute freedom to do as I wished.

That lead to a woman who constantly wanted to do kinky things with him. He's been about to "come out" about what he wants because of my sudden openness about them.

It's been a great year plus now!

Fury

OMG how awesome hon for you to have that kind of support.

 

[FurryFury]

OMG how awesome hon for you to have that kind of support.

Yes, he is a wonderful person!

I'm going to go join him in bed now.

Goodnight!

Fury