What is up with the height obsession women have?

[posterOfAgirl]

What is the story with this woman?

i'm 5'9" and i don't like dating men shorter then me, so sue me

 

[posterOfAgirl]

then again height doesn't matter when you are horizontal

 

[BlackShanglan]

Making lists of what physical traits women want or don't want is the refuge of the insecure.

It's the key to any good self-justification. Start by blaming something you can't possibly control.

 

[Xander]

IN my experience. In the end height really really doesn't matter. I've dated women as tall as 6'1 and as short as 4'9.

We had a great time together and height wasn't an issue.

 

[StonetheCrow077]

Huh, I'm only 5'7 (and a half!... ya, the half is important... lol ) and I only date shorter women for the most part...

does that make me wrong?

BTW... I'd love to hook up with a midget... maybe with no legs...

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Originally Posted by bronzeage
You could start another poll on the question.

I'll take my chances on that one, but you don't have the balls to live with the results.

I already know your online persona is popular with women. Matthew Craig was considered hot by a lot of women, too. Still is. Welcome to the club.

See, I'm married. I don't need to push a 'daddy' image with women, which is what you do, when I am home schooling my baby girl and kissing my wife's basketball belly.

I'm a daddy for real. You're just an old man that pretends.

Well of course. You just stayed away from women. Except online, of course.

Not even you believe that.

I most certainly do.

Originally Posted by bronzeage
I can stand up and state what I believe to be true, without worrying if I have a crowd to back me up.

Its not long and its not a rant. There is no threat from you, thats for certain.

Your rant is long and getting longer.

People who are not threatened don't post screeds like you just did in a harmless height preference thread.

You're totally on red fucking alert.

Actually, you can't help it. Its part of your condition. You want the crowd but can't manage to do it. Whenever challanged, the first thing you do is claim the rest of the world is on your side. Every once in a while you debate the color of the sky and find yourself in the majorty.

Whenever challanged (hahahah), the first thing you do is claim the rest of Lit is on your side.

If finding a woman to give you a blowjob in a few minutes is the standard for finding a mate, it does not reflect well on your wife, but you and I both know you don't believe this. It does show your basic misogyny at work.

Ok so getting a blowjob is misogyny. Oh I'd hate to see what you think of a one night stand. You've managed to rationalize your lifelong celibacy into some crusade to be too nice to women. You're a self proclaimed nice guy.

If I knew you in real life it would be my crusade to get you laid.

All the gay guys I know think I'm hot.

Now if only you could say the same about the women you know.

Your insecurity and poor attempts to fit in are very real. The rage you have when you feel rejected is very real. Its apparent to everybody else.

The worse part of all this, is I know you have the intellectual capacity to know all I have said is true, but the wounded emotional part of you mind will not let you function well enough to do anything to help yourself.

Your Jedi mind tricks do not work on me. Only money. And no Republic credits, either!

You're so pathetic and insecure that the moment your views are challenged, you fly completely off the handle with rants like this. No wonder you're a 60 year old virgin that only gay dudes think are sexy.

What's even sadder is you have managed to turn sexual success into misogyny in order to rationalize your own real life romantic failures, and now you're too old and set in your ways to turn away from this loser's path. But online, there'll always be Luxey, won't there?

Keep playing daddy online, dude. As long as it keeps you from becoming the old pedophiling creep that is screaming to burst out of you, it's all good.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

It's the key to any good self-justification. Start by blaming something you can't possibly control.

That's amazing. So where do PosterOfAGirl and Cheyenne fit into your theory?

 

[bronzeage]

Poor Lt, you have a rough couple decades ahead of you, maybe more.

My children are all grown and have become sucessful adults. We'll wait and see how yours turn out. I am sure they will do as well as you have.

 

[BlackShanglan]

That's amazing. So where do PosterOfAGirl and Cheyenne fit into your theory?

"Women who prefer taller men." I realize that in your theory they fit into the slot labelled "Entirety of the female gender," but I suspect that there we may simply have to differ.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

And rigorous studies prove you wrong. Obesity is one of the least treatment-responsive health problems on the market. Statistically speaking, less than 25% of obese women have any likelihood of losing weight and keeping it off.

Of course, the really interesting question is why you seem so personally invested in this issue.

ETA: Ahhh, I see that BronzeAge has worked it through. Indeed. Any slight LT has ever suffered is indeed the TRUTH FOR ALL MANKIND. This makes sense.

I'm plenty tall enough not to have to worry about being slighted about this. How am I invested in this issue? Simple. I'm invested in the myriads of instances of discrimination against men - a problem society simply does not care about. My past posts cover a wide variety of instances of discrimination against men, in far more fanatical detail than in this thread.

Oh and "less than 25%" does not disprove my claim that women can lose weight. Logically speaking it says "the chances are low". You can't disprove what I said until you can say "less than 1%", and 25% is far from me being wrong. 25 percentage points far.

No, I don't expect you to directly address my points now. You have the General Board disease and your debate skills are plummeting.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Oh and "less than 25%" does not disprove my claim that women can lose weight. Logically speaking it says "the chances are low". You can't disprove what I said until you can say "less than 1%", and 25% is far from me being wrong. 25 percentage points far.

Whereas, of course, when you can prove that two people espouse a point of view, that logically demonstrates that the overwhelming majority fit the description.

My debating skills haven't changed, LT. I just happen to oppose you. It's remarkable how stupid everyone suddenly becomes when you don't like what they're saying.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

"Women who prefer taller men." I realize that in your theory they fit into the slot labelled "Entirety of the female gender," but I suspect that there we may simply have to differ.

I suspect that any poll in Lit or otherwise will show what society in general has shown: the vast majority of women are turned off by the idea of dating men shorter than themselves. You can't cut any empirical OR statistical slice of the female population and come up with a contradiction to that.

Anyway, answer me this. Why are you suddenly so hostile? Did I say something that... offends you? I mean, it's no skin off my back, I know how you people are when threatened, and yes, you are threatened because I dare challenge your delusions,

but I came into this thread being nice, and sticking strictly to established and credible facts,

and you and Bronzeage are going utterly monkey shit.


What's up with that?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Whereas, of course, when you can prove that two people espouse a point of view, that logically demonstrates that the overwhelming majority fit the description.

My debating skills haven't changed, LT. I just happen to oppose you. It's remarkable how stupid everyone suddenly becomes when you don't like what they're saying.

Pot. Kettle. Black. You and Bronzeage could not come back at me with rational discussion, when I was simply sticking to the facts.

You had to sink to personal attacks without anything from the same universe as provocation.

I'm okay with that, mind you, but I'm not okay with you playing the "It's remarkable how stupid everyone suddenly becomes when you don't like what they're saying" when you are doing the very same thing.

 

[BlackShanglan]

... I came into this thread being nice, and sticking strictly to established and credible facts ...

What, like "I suspect a poll would show overwhelming support for this idea, so it's true?"

What I dislike at the moment, LT, is that you seem to be becoming ever more adept at lying to yourself. It's a sad thing to see in anyone, and in this case it's becoming ridiculous. You've decided that simply because you think a thing is true, it is, and you've delcared it true by yelling it over and over. What's unhappy there is not that we have to listen to you (it's not that hard to ignore), but that you're actually talking yourself into believing that this is conclusive proof of your intellect. It's a bit painful to see, but as it is also inherently dishonest, it is also distasteful.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Pot. Kettle. Black. You and Bronzeage could not come back at me with rational discussion, when I was simply sticking to the facts.

You had to sink to personal attacks without anything from the same universe as provocation.

I'm okay with that, mind you, but I'm not okay with you playing the "It's remarkable how stupid everyone suddenly becomes when you don't like what they're saying" when you are doing the very same thing.

No. The personal comments were not part of my reasoning, just an amused aside. I was attempting to come up with some justification for your completely unsupported and bizarrely passionate stance, and that was my best guess.

But then, I don't expect to break through here with reason. You keep insisting that you're "sticking to fact" when actually you're just reiterating your opinion without any facts at all. Whether you don't know the difference between those things or simply don't care to acknowledge it, the result is roughly the same.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

What, like "I suspect a poll would show overwhelming support for this idea, so it's true?"

What I dislike at the moment, LT, is that you seem to be becoming ever more adept at lying to yourself. It's a sad thing to see in anyone, and in this case it's becoming ridiculous. You've decided that simply because you think a thing is true, it is, and you've delcared it true by yelling it over and over. What's unhappy there is not that we have to listen to you (it's not that hard to ignore), but that you're actually talking yourself into believing that this is conclusive proof of your intellect. It's a bit painful to see, but as it is also inherently dishonest, it is also distasteful.

I never lie to myself.

I have posted proof of women's height preferences. You have countered with, at best, weak anecdotal evidence. How is that lying to myself?

I only posted reality. Please, by all means, disprove me. Most women do not want to date shorter men. There are exceptions. Confidence does go a long way and will sway women who are less hard nosed about height. But still, most women would not and do not date shorter men.

I'm calling you out. Let's do a rundown of the facts and see who comes out on top.



Uh oh. I done did it now...

 

[Le Jacquelope]

No. The personal comments were not part of my reasoning, just an amused aside. I was attempting to come up with some justification for your completely unsupported and bizarrely passionate stance, and that was my best guess.

Wow. This is like watching Pro Wrestling. You've become the Brooklyn Brawler.

How is my stance unsupported? I posted two studies. TWO. Studies by people with far more credibility in the issue than you or me combined. What have you countered with? Proof by brute assertion.

Ok ok ok, fine. You say you didn't counter with proof by brute assertion. Show me the facts that back you up. Documentation, please, not just opinions.

I post documentation. You post opinion. Which one has more weight in an official debate?

 

[fallenupright]

I won't lie.

I won't date short guys. Anything under 5'7" is too short.

I'm 5'2". I need someone who can reach the stuff on the top shelf!

 

[BlackShanglan]

Very well, LT. Let's walk through your logic. And I do mean your own personal logic, since nothing I say could possibly meet your rigorous standards of reason.

Oh and "less than 25%" does not disprove my claim that women can lose weight. Logically speaking it says "the chances are low". You can't disprove what I said until you can say "less than 1%", and 25% is far from me being wrong. 25 percentage points far.

That's happy news for shorter men. Your studies indicated that taller men were more likely to marry and have children; they never suggested that "less than 1%" of short men were able to accomplish this objective. Given that you apparently feel that even a 25% chance of success is a good fighting chance, it looks like shorter men are in quite a good enough position to be happy with their lot.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I would propose this empirical, street side height preference test for BlackShanglan.

BS, you pick the venue. Just to make it fair.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123853&page=2

I can't wait to see BlackShanglan scream bloody murder at ABC News or Lynn Sherr for discovering the same thing I've been saying here.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Very well, LT. Let's walk through your logic. And I do mean your own personal logic, since nothing I say could possibly meet your rigorous standards of reason.



That's happy news for shorter men. Your studies indicated that taller men were more likely to marry and have children; they never suggested that "less than 1%" of short men were able to accomplish this objective. Given that you apparently feel that even a 25% chance of success is a good fighting chance, it looks like shorter men are in quite a good enough position to be happy with their lot.

And I never said "less than 1%" of short men were able to accomplish this objective.

I only said the majority of women will not date shorter men. A 25% exception still proves the majority rule.

Oh and your attempt at refuting the ability to lose weight (and I think BBWs are quite hot, thankyouverymuch) did not even touch the other point I made: that there are many men who think big women are hot.

There's a porn thread dedicated to hot, rotund babes. I'm a big contributor there.

Do you see any thread dedicated to short men?

Well?

I'm waiting.

 

[Desert Amazon]

Lets start it out by saying, yes, I'm not very tall. 5'5''

Every time i read a personal ad every single one of them say the same thing. TALL!!!

What is it? I mean do woman have a fear of not being able to reach stuff? I see a ton of guys taller than me that are just flat out ugly. But when responding to a online personal ad they will get more attention because they can proudly state that they are 6'3''. The fact that they look like a sea donkey in person doesn't come up until much later. But me, who is fairly good looking guy won't even get a response because I am under the oh so impervious 5'9''.

What is the story with this woman?

Some of us are tall. Some of us have had bad experiences with shorter guys and their issues of dating someone taller....

I prefer to have someone taller than I am.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Sorry, I'm going to have to pelt in a moment and I can't get to a study that both gives percentages and isn't locked behind a pay-to-view medical journal. However, if you choose to Google the words "obesity" and "resistant to treatment," you'll notice that that fact is accepted as a commonplace in the Lancet and the NEJM.

LT, you're locked back into "I'm right hah hah NOW what do you say?" mode, so I'll leave you to enjoy it. If it makes you happier to believe that the world is cruelly skewed against shorter men and that they are substantially more miserable than overweight women, you're quite welcome to that opinion. I think you're wrong, but honestly, I find the game of "I suffer more than you!" sufficiently unattractive that I prefer not to see more of it than I have to. The egotism involved is the chief thing that annoys me about this thread.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Sorry, I'm going to have to pelt in a moment and I can't get to a study that both gives percentages and isn't locked behind a pay-to-view medical journal. However, if you choose to Google the words "obesity" and "resistant to treatment," you'll notice that that fact is accepted as a commonplace in the Lancet and the NEJM.

Good job there, defending a point I am not even attacking.

Good job flatly avoiding my main point, that there are many men who are fat admirers or who do not mind a big woman.

There is a saying in Mexico: bone is for the dog, meat is for the man.

You're disappointing me with your ducking and dodging. But you're so far lost in your intolerant rage now that you probably do not care.

LT, you're locked back into "I'm right hah hah NOW what do you say?" mode, so I'll leave you to enjoy it. If it makes you happier to believe that the world is cruelly skewed against shorter men and that they are substantially more miserable than overweight women, you're quite welcome to that opinion. I think you're wrong, but honestly, I find the game of "I suffer more than you!" sufficiently unattractive that I prefer not to see more of it than I have to. The egotism involved is the chief thing that annoys me about this thread.

Wow, I could imagine how you would have reacted if you had seen that ABC news story when it aired on TV. The nerve. People saying the same thing I'm saying, ON TELEVISION, for the world to see.

The Governor would have had to declare your entire neighborhood a disaster area by the time your apocalyptic hissyfit burned itself out.

 

[BlackShanglan]

But you're so far lost in your intolerant rage now that you probably do not care.

Speaking of bizarre and unfounded assertions ...

It amazes me that someone so familiar with rage can't work out when it's not present. But then, I suppose that your own always is. Background noise, eh?

You asked me to provide documentation. See that post right up above? I was simply acknowledging that while I had attempted to, at this moment I could not.

Yes, there are BBW sites. Hurrah. They prove that some men fetishize overweight women. Here's an interesting bit of trivia: I spent some time last month helping to edit an article that addressed the claim of traditional psychologists that women don't have fetishes. I am, of course, reliant on the author's research, but she explained the concepts in enough detail that I have some faith in it. That offers some interesting thoughts on why you're not seeing many (although I did find some) short man fetish sites. It's quite possibly down to a lack of female-driven fetish sites in general.

But, again, we're back to the percentage game. Some men like bbws. Some women like short men. More commonly, both groups face difficulties on the dating scene. Is there some particular reason you feel passionately about insisting that short men have the more difficult time?