What is the commonly used trope that irks you the most?

[pink_silk_glove]

Home sapiens, our species, originated in Eastern Africa sometime around 300,000 years ago, and our species dispersed in a series of waves from Africa throughout the world some time after that. So that's what I'm referring to. We're all descended from a common ancestor. We're all related. We're all family. Our original, commonly shared great-grandparent was born somewhere in Eastern Africa.

Ugh! You and your icky incest.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Magic penises. Like, any story where fucking somebody apparently rewrites their entire brain.

(exception if you're actually fucking their brain but I think Hypoxia was the last author here to get into trepanation fetish)

 

[SimonDoom]

Ugh! You and your icky incest.

Hey, you went there, not me.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

This is why I love the Lord of the Rings so much.

Samwise + Frodo yeet Gollum and the One Ring into Orodruin. Yay! Sauron gets shagged to pieces! Yay! Aragorn marries Arwen! Yay! Faramir marries Eowyn! Yay!

The power of the Rings is broken and the Elves have to leave Middle Earth? And they did everything to help Frodo achieve his quest, knowing that this would be the outcome for them? Boo!

They still had the scouring of the Shire, it wasn't quite as simple as destroying the ring = win.

 

[EmilyMiller]

We're all descended from a common ancestor.

Thats shorthand for “common ancestral population.” The general point remains. Every person of every ethnicity alive today has a black African ancestor. Just not the same one.

The original Homo sapiens populations were all black.

The level of pigment and collagen varies (black don’t crack is true due to the latter). Some enzymes differ (e.g. on average Asian people have less alcohol dehydrogenase) but these are tiny differences.

We are all the same and it’s sad that so many can’t accept that.

Emily

 

[Djmac1031]

Say it’s isn’t so

You ate aware of the film reference? It was also sampled in an 80s song.

 

[Bamagan]

LOL
I don't think so.
You are however entitled to your opinion.
I think our ethnicities go back a lot further than Africa's existence.
In my opinion.
I am not an expert.

Cagivagurl

There's a bit of chicken and egg mentality here, but...
The earliest known members of the genus Homo, from which human is derived, are perhaps 2.8 million years old, and do in fact come from Africa.
The earliest 'anatomically modern' humans are about 300k years old. They probably arose in Africa but might have developed elsewhere nearby from earlier populations of less modern humans that left Africa and then migrated back. But the basic point remains.
The continent that became Africa split from Pangaea (edit: actually Gondwanaland, I think) about 180 million years ago, then divorced South America around 140 mya. At that time, we share a common ancestry with animals ranging from the blue whale to the platypus.

All that being said, I would look askance at anyone claiming to be African American (for example) who doesn't have an ancestor who was born there within the last five generations or so (well, maybe not just five, but there's no need for a hard line). It seems rather disingenuous and disrespectful to people who have recent cultural roots and not just the genetic ones.

 

[EmilyMiller]

You ate aware of the film reference? It was also sampled in an 80s song.

One of Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket, or Platoon or one of those Vietnam movies, right?

I sat through all thirty hours of Apocalypse Now Redux at college. Even the extra lines for Harrison didn’t make up for it. Though I did get credit for the course.

Emily

 

[Rob_Royale]

I don’t think that’s entirely true. And I don’t just mean bi girls like me. Some women I know have found their sexuality after years of trying to be “normal” (quotes intentional). Some are now exclusively lesbian, but that doesn’t mean they are necessarily disgusted by their pasts. Or that they don’t have some residual feelings for men on occcasion.

As ever generalizations fall flat. I was pretty much a girl girl (IRL at least) before I hooked up with my bf. But I’ve learned that it’s as much the person as their genitalia that matters. Then I accept this could just be me.

Emily

Then perhaps the word disgusted was too hard a term. The women I know who consider themselves lesbian stick to the strict meaning of the word. What other thoughts they might have to the contrary is not my business.

But I agree about generalizations, “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,/Than are dreamt of in your philosophy” (Hamlet, 1.5. 165–66).

 

[EmilyMiller]

But I agree about generalizations, “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,/Than are dreamt of in your philosophy” (Hamlet, 1.5. 165–66).

Indeed. We can learn from Will.

Emily

 

[SimonDoom]

Thats shorthand for “common ancestral population.” The general point remains. Every person of every ethnicity alive today has a black African ancestor. Just not the same one.

The original Homo sapiens populations were all black.

The level of pigment and collagen varies (black don’t crack is true due to the latter). Some enzymes differ (e.g. on average Asian people have less alcohol dehydrogenase) but these are tiny differences.

We are all the same and it’s sad that so many can’t accept that.

Emily

I'm not a biologist, just a lay person interested in the subject, but my understanding is that modern evolutionary theory is that every single person on the planet traces ancestry back to a single common ancestor. How could it be otherwise?

 

[Rob_Royale]

Great sex for me relies on nothing more than the two people together generate a chemical reaction that ignites a flame of eroticism.
How they interact together.
Whether they are able to excite their partner...
It is their emotional connection I love to explore.
Their ethnicity doesn't enter into their enjoyment.
In my opinion. LOL

Cagivagurl

Ethnicity no, but I find that skin tones add to a woman's attractiveness. Variety is the spice of life. And it makes no difference to me if she's as pale as Esmé Bianco or dark as Lupita Nyong'o. I find them all amazingly enticing.

 

[Djmac1031]

Lupita Nyong'o.

I would drink her bathwater. She's gorgeous.

 

[AchtungNight]

Ugh! You and your icky incest.

Look, someone’s attractive cousin!

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm not a biologist, just a lay person interested in the subject, but my understanding is that modern evolutionary theory is that every single person on the planet traces ancestry back to a single common ancestor. How could it be otherwise?

Mitochondrial Eve?

It’s a simplified concept.

Emily

 

[Cagivagurl]

Ethnicity no, but I find that skin tones add to a woman's attractiveness. Variety is the spice of life. And it makes no difference to me if she's as pale as Esmé Bianco or dark as Lupita Nyong'o. I find them all amazingly enticing.

For me the important thing is.
I am attracted to a person. It's not dependant on their ethnicity.
The only thing that is important is that we are mutually attracted.
The person ignites something within me.
That we share a connection, and it has to be more than physical.
I admit, the physical attraction is usually the first sense to be aroused.
I have however been attracted to a person simply from hearing their voice, or seeing them open up and expose a little of their inner beauty.
For me, attractiveness comes from within. It's the essence of a person, their inner beauty.
Physical arousal is fine, I like most people are affected by seeing a person who is physically attractive.
Thankfully, we're all different.

Cagivagurl

 

[mildlyaroused]

Tiny white girls being violated by BBCs as if a wild animal has been let loose on them

I'm not sure I agree with a buff Black guy with a big dick somehow being akin to a wild animal

Unfortunately, this likening is very much so the undertone. In a lot of IR, and beyond erotica.

Even Shakespeare used it! For instance in Othello:

“Even now, now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe.” (Iago, 1.1)

 

[pink_silk_glove]

For me the important thing is.
I am attracted to a person. It's not dependant on their ethnicity.
The only thing that is important is that we are mutually attracted.
The person ignites something within me.
That we share a connection, and it has to be more than physical.
I admit, the physical attraction is usually the first sense to be aroused.
I have however been attracted to a person simply from hearing their voice, or seeing them open up and expose a little of their inner beauty.
For me, attractiveness comes from within. It's the essence of a person, their inner beauty.
Physical arousal is fine, I like most people are affected by seeing a person who is physically attractive.
Thankfully, we're all different.

Cagivagurl

Being attracted to someone's skin color is no different than being attracted to someone's hair or eye color, or height, or lips, or dimples, or thin physique, or big breasts, or round booty, or shoe size. It's not racist at all.

However, the BBC trope itself is entirely based on racial stereotypes.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Unfortunately, this likening is very much so the undertone. In a lot of IR, and beyond erotica.

Even Shakespeare used it! For instance in Othello:

I’d forgotten that quote.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Even Shakespeare used it! For instance in Othello:

“Even now, now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe.” (Iago, 1.1)"

What's that you said? Shakespeare? Shake? ... Spear? ... Spearchucker? Who you callin' spearchucker, now?

 

[Comshaw]

I am really sorry but the ONLY thing I have to say about this thread is...



Comshaw

 

[Rob_Royale]

Being attracted to someone's skin color is no different than being attracted to someone's hair or eye color, or height, or lips, or dimples, or thin physique, or big breasts, or round booty, or shoe size. It's not racist at all.

However, the BBC trope itself is entirely based on racial stereotypes.

Perfectly summarized.

 

[AchtungNight]

In Shakespeare’s defense, he was creating a villain. Writers sometimes have to put themselves in a disturbing position to do that. I remember when I had to get into the mind of my Erotic Horror FMC. Ugh.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I know I'm a terrible person, but this thread has me cooking up story ideas. So many bears to poke, so little time.

Should I give you a block allocation, or start again at #100?

 

[ElectricBlue]

I'm not a biologist, just a lay person interested in the subject, but my understanding is that modern evolutionary theory is that every single person on the planet traces ancestry back to a single common ancestor. How could it be otherwise?

Wouldn't you need two? Or did she have a sore ear?