What happens to the Republican Party when Donald Trump dies?

[Fuzzy1975]

So all the responses to my posts are from people who haven’t actually read them? You’re probably right. Thanks for reading and responding to my post.

lol reading your posts and replying to them is not following you. Nice to see how conceited you are....

 

[Bray123]

When the Orangutan finally kicks off, who will attend?

Any former Presidents? Any world leaders other than Dictators?

Viktor Orbán and Jair Bolsonaro for sure. Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, Kim Jong Un, Putin and Xi Jinping probably.

There will be a big party called the 'Not the Trump Memorial' held somewhere, featuring the world leaders who he insulted during his term (people who don't get off on their wives being insulted such as Raphael Eduardo Cruz).

 

[icanhelp1]

From your MAGAt perspective no doubt a basic centrist like Biden looks like a member of the squad

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[Escierto]

Viktor Orbán and Jair Bolsonaro for sure. Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, Kim Jong Un, Putin and Xi Jinping probably.

There will be a big party called the 'Not the Trump Memorial' held somewhere, featuring the world leaders who he insulted during his term (people who don't get off on their wives being insulted such as Raphael Eduardo Cruz).

The Cuban Canadian Cruz offered his wife to the Orange Jesus but he refused saying that she was too ugly to fuck. Wannabe cuck Cruz sat in a corner and cried.

 

[jomar]

Actions speak louder than words.

They do

 

[HisArpy]

Trump is not the Republican party.

That you somehow believe you can superimpose the desires and will of millions of voters into the image of 1 person whom you loathe merely because you're too stupid to understand how thoroughly you've been indoctrinated into it, only shows that you have no idea about anything at all.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Actions speak louder than words.

But not Trump’s.

 

[HisArpy]

Nobody can predict what happens to the Republican Party when Trump is gone, but the question is equally relevant for the Democratic Party.

It’s utterly amazing that with less than 11 months before Election Day, Trump is the betting odds favorite to win in 2024. People who follow my posts here will recall that I thought the GOP was done with Trump not so long ago.

Yet here he is, leading in nearly all national polls and leading by even greater margins in the most recent battleground states.

Who to thank or blame? Where to start?

Plenty of credit to spread around. Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary and her pals at Fusion GPS, the J6 Committee, overzealous prosecutors, and a compliant pack of lemmings in the corporate media and pundits have made him a martyr. The geniuses that have doubted down on an 81 year old president who the public sees as mentally and physically not up for the job deserve credit as well.

Both parties are a mess right now and the only thing we can say with certainty is that both will look very different in 2028.

Putin is to both thank and blame.

His invasion of Ukraine opened a lot of eyes when Joe shit his pants and Kammeltoe laughed about it instead of the US doing what it needed to do.

It's only gone downhill since then. More swamp rot was exposed, Hunter was revealed as the degenerate he really is, and so on.

Newsom's appearance on the stage was an attempt to show how strong the D's are. That gambit failed because Newsom is as degenerate and incompetent as Joe and Hunter are and now the world knows it.

The attack by Hamas only exposed further how weak the D's are. The result is that Trump is beginning to look like a better choice.

Haley, DeSantis and the rest aren't making it because they're all trying to out-Trump Trump and be all things to all people. Basically they're acting like Democrats and that's not going to work.

As the polls are showing.

 

[jomar]

^^^ Trying out for Rightguide’s understudy.

 

[Bray123]

Putin is to both thank and blame.

His invasion of Ukraine opened a lot of eyes when Joe shit his pants and Kammeltoe laughed about it instead of the US doing what it needed to do.

It's only gone downhill since then. More swamp rot was exposed, Hunter was revealed as the degenerate he really is, and so on.

Newsom's appearance on the stage was an attempt to show how strong the D's are. That gambit failed because Newsom is as degenerate and incompetent as Joe and Hunter are and now the world knows it.

The attack by Hamas only exposed further how weak the D's are. The result is that Trump is beginning to look like a better choice.

Haley, DeSantis and the rest aren't making it because they're all trying to out-Trump Trump and be all things to all people. Basically they're acting like Democrats and that's not going to work.

As the polls are showing.

Yet the MAGAT party insisted on all the candidates swear fealty to Trump over party before being allowed on the ballot.

Don't blame Putin for protecting the rights of Russia, blame those who acquiesced to the Mango Malfeasant and his need for a bank account even though no US bank would touch him.

By the way what the fuck happened to the Russia dossier that Trump stole and nobody can find any more?
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-russia-intelligence-trump-dg/

Cat got your tongue?

 

[ll74]

Yet the MAGAT party insisted on all the candidates swear fealty to Trump over party before being allowed on the ballot.

Don't blame Putin for protecting the rights of Russia, blame those who acquiesced to the Mango Malfeasant and his need for a bank account even though no US bank would touch him.

By the way what the fuck happened to the Russia dossier that Trump stole and nobody can find any more?
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-russia-intelligence-trump-dg/

Cat got your tongue?

That's not true. The requirement was that they would support the ultimate winner of the party nomination.

 

[RandyRebecca]

I don't think Trump's supporters care if he's lying or not. What they like about him is that he's made them feel empowered to wear their bigotry as a badge of honor. That's not changing.

Not just the bigotry, but the rage at any real or perceived injustice. It's empowering for them after boring, bland "professional" politicians for so long. That's why they are not going to be placated by the RINOs or "experts".

Recover from the position it finds itself in (or will find out when it wakes up).

Since Reagan there has been a move to the lunatic right, so that billionaires have tax breaks to allow them to purchase private islands or run vanity space missions. The religious right have abandoned any attempt to follow the teachings of the New Testament and select the worst parts of Leviticus to justify themselves. Trump gave the unpleasant fringe permission to behave appallingly towards anyone they see as different such as the disabled, foreigners, LGBTQ.

And what led to Trump becoming president? He didn't just fall out of the sky out of nowhere. Decades of bad policies enabled Trump to rise, from successive presidents from both big parties.

His supporters think that because he portrayed himself as a billionaire business mogul on a TV show, he must be telling them the truth whilst anyone who has a working brain can see that it's the opposite.

I don't think they care if he's lying or not. They want to burn the house down, drain the swamp, because the system doesn't work for most of them. They want him to "stick it to the libs", "stick it to the experts", "stick it to the professionals". A lot of workers and unemployed people in rural areas feel abandoned in the modern world, feeling like nobody listens to them, and they are very angry about it. This is combined with the resentments of evangelical crazies and racists who hate the demographic changes that have happened, and are happening, in America.

Listen to his words! 'I have the constitutional right to lie to the electorate'. 'The only way I can lose any election is by vote-rigging.' 'When I'm elected I'll be a dictator'. ''I want to overturn the constitution'.

Wake up.

The thing is, big lies only work if they are shrouded in truth. The truth here is that the system is actually rigged, in favor of super rich billionaires, with the media setting the narrative, and against the vast majority of people. It is also the truth that most of the establishment wanted Trump out and Biden into power in 2020. Without these truths, the big lie of a stolen election doesn't become possible, where he convinces 30+% of the US population that the 2020 presidential election was rigged. Trump is going to do the same with 2024 if he sees it necessary, adding a narrative of real establishment wrongdoing to his big lie talk.

 

[Rightguide]

trump winning would be a grave danger to the country as we know it.

But you cannot explain how. We can see exactly what Biden has done.

 

[RandyRebecca]

But you cannot explain how. We can see exactly what Biden has done.

A danger in the sense that Trump becomes America's Caesar. He almost did it on January 6 2021. If congresspeople had been harmed that day (or worse) before the 2020 presidential election results had been certified, Trump could have declared a national emergency because of the scenes on Capitol Hill and stayed in power until new elections were called. Had this happened, the 2020 presidential election results would never have been certified, as if they had never really happened.

I don't think a lot of people grasp just how close a coup came to actually happening that day.

I agree that Biden is awful. I've always been angry at his warmongering and the resulting inflation, and how Democrats who never stopped moaning about Trump always seem to give Biden a free pass, even for ethnic cleansing and potential genocide in Gaza. As Biden supports Israel in that, Democrats over here talk of Trump being a greater evil. Greater than genocide?

 

[Lazaran]

A danger in the sense that Trump becomes America's Caesar. He almost did it on January 6 2021. If congresspeople had been harmed that day (or worse) before the 2020 presidential election results had been certified, Trump could have declared a national emergency because of the scenes on Capitol Hill and stayed in power until new elections were called. Had this happened, the 2020 presidential election results would never have been certified, as if they had never really happened.

I don't think a lot of people grasp just how close a coup came to actually happening that day.

I agree that Biden is awful. I've always been angry at his warmongering and the resulting inflation, and how Democrats who never stopped moaning about Trump always seem to give Biden a free pass, even for ethnic cleansing and potential genocide in Gaza. As Biden supports Israel in that, Democrats over here talk of Trump being a greater evil. Greater than genocide?

Hate to tell you, "Becky”, but the Hamas animals brought the current extreme suffering down on the human shields in Gaza.



And, unfortunately, there appear to be maaaaany Palestinians AND their supporters who have given the Hamas animals a free pass, or, even worse, celebrated the Hamas animal’s rape, torture, mutilation, murder, kidnapping operation on October 7th.



Also:

If the Israeli’s had truly been engaged in genocide targeting the Palestinians in Gaza, the numbers of casualties would be A LOT different than they are now. - And they certainly wouldn’t be allowing aid into Gaza.

In addition, it appears the Israeli’s have been doing genocide all wrong for the last 75 years. - The number of Palestinians has increased almost tenfold over that time.



Genocide???

GMAFB

And

GTFOH



"Becky"

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I don't think a lot of people grasp just how close a coup came to actually happening that day.

A lot of Republican supporters don't grasp this. The majority of Democratic and Independent voters did, which is why he lost.

 

[Escierto]

I have the utmost confidence that the Orange Jesus will finally install a fascist Christian dictatorship in 2024. This will be a fitting end to a country founded on genocide and slavery. Good riddance!

 

[jomar]

But you cannot explain how.

Of course I can, and have.

We can see exactly what Biden has done.

What?

A danger in the sense that Trump becomes America's Caesar. He almost did it on January 6 2021. If congresspeople had been harmed that day (or worse) before the 2020 presidential election results had been certified, Trump could have declared a national emergency because of the scenes on Capitol Hill and stayed in power until new elections were called. Had this happened, the 2020 presidential election results would never have been certified, as if they had never really happened.

I don't think a lot of people grasp just how close a coup came to actually happening that day.

For once we agree!

 

[Raazor]

A lot of Republican supporters don't grasp this. The majority of Democratic and Independent voters did, which is why he lost.

A lot of Republicans would have welcomed the coup. They want a permanent grasp on power. Their man ruling by executive fiat with no checks and balances is exactly what they want.

This ambition is literally staring the US in the face and you are just as likely to vote for it as not.

 

[Lazaran]

Of course I can, and have.


What?


For once we agree!

Of course, "Becky" couldn’t resist going on to rationalize how / why President Biden and Democrats would be / are worse that a literal fucking right wing dictator.

"Becky" suggesting that Democrats are supporting / facilitating genocide is fucking insane.



"Becry

 

[Escierto]

A lot of Republicans would have welcomed the coup. They want a permanent grasp on power. Their man ruling by executive fiat with no checks and balances is exactly what they want.

This ambition is literally staring the US in the face and you are just as likely to vote for it as not.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Trump is not the Republican party.

That you somehow believe you can superimpose the desires and will of millions of voters into the image of 1 person whom you loathe merely because you're too stupid to understand how thoroughly you've been indoctrinated into it, only shows that you have no idea about anything at all.

Trump is the spiritual leader of the Soudbite faction of today's Republican party.
The Republican party is largely consumed with soundbites and optics and virtually nothing else.
What remains of the party platform is in tatters. They have no coherent strategery ("Stiggin it to teh Libz" is not a strategery). They have no leadership and those in the wings (DeSantis and Vivek) channel Trumps hatred but are not especially popular outside the fringe groups.

The core Republican demographic (White Male Christian Boomers) shrinks by 2% each election cycle and the tipping point (50-50) was 2020. Republicans need gerrymandering, court supermajorities and vote suppression from here on out to enact their misogynistic racist agenda.

 

[domroger]

When the Orangutan finally kicks off, who will attend?

Any former Presidents? Any world leaders other than Dictators?

I would,just to be first in line to piss on his grave.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The problem for Democrats isn’t Trump or Republicans. The problem is independents and disaffected Democrats. Biden isn’t every Democrat’s favorite choice. He’s the default because they don’t have a Bill Clinton or Obama and haven’t had one since at least 2016.

Depending on which source you look at, registered GOP voters only comprise somewhere between 25% and 35% of the national electorate. About 70% of those folks plan to vote for Trump in the GOP primaries this year. In other words, his base is a relatively small percentage of the national electorate. Yet Trump has been leading Biden for months in nearly all national polls and that small margin is widening, not getting smaller. He currently leads by a 3.5% margin in the RCP average.

When Trump is gone, the 70% of the 25%-35% will vote for someone else. There is no clear heir apparent. When Biden is gone, there is no clear heir apparent either. 2028 is wide open for both parties.

 

[ll74]

The problem for Democrats isn’t Trump or Republicans. The problem is independents and disaffected Democrats. Biden isn’t every Democrat’s favorite choice. He’s the default because they don’t have a Bill Clinton or Obama and haven’t had one since at least 2016.

Depending on which source you look at, registered GOP voters only comprise somewhere between 25% and 35% of the national electorate. About 70% of those folks plan to vote for Trump in the GOP primaries this year. In other words, his base is a relatively small percentage of the national electorate. Yet Trump has been leading Biden for months in nearly all national polls and that small margin is widening, not getting smaller. He currently leads by a 3.5% margin in the RCP average.

When Trump is gone, the 70% of the 25%-35% will vote for someone else. There is no clear heir apparent. When Biden is gone, there is no clear heir apparent either. 2028 is wide open for both parties.

Both parties hit ceilings with certain demographics.