What are you thinking now -- re-continued

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I understand that all the rough sleepers were offered accommodation...but most of then turned it down as they thought they'd make more money on the street

Permanent accomodation? Or just for the duration so that the great and the good don't have to have their day spoiled? I'd love to see a source for that story, please.
Doubly ironic as the bride is apparently such a social justice warrior...

I suppose that depends on whether you believe people sleep on the streets as a career choice...
 
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My stomach turns when I read personals adverts that blatantly advertise for someone to cheat with. If your current partner doesn't do it for you, then FFS show respect for them as a human being by telling them and then, if necessary, ending it and moving on. :mad:
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My stomach turns when I read personals adverts that blatantly advertise for someone to cheat with. If your current partner doesn't do it for you, then FFS show respect for them as a human being by telling them and then, if necessary, ending it and moving on. :mad:
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As one of the 'cheaters', I can tell you that there are lots of reasons why people stay in insufferable marriages, long after they really should have headed for the hills. Most of the time it's because children are involved, and breaking up the family is not in their best interest (*or so we think. I'm not so sure anymore. I've learned that it's more detrimental to the children to live in a household where there is no loving relationship to model as normal. They grow up thinking that dysfunction is normal). Other reasons could include financial instability or health matters.

In my case, it was all three. I've learned not to assume anything when it comes to relationships. What a couple looks like out in the daylight is often very different from how they interact in the privacy of their own home. Everyone is different, everyone has their reasons, and having just come through that situation, I've learned that much at least.
 
Years ago, in a reckless 'Care not for tomorrow, just live for today' kind of mood, I'd find myself out on the town, getting liquored up and going home with strange married couples I just met for threesomes.

Nowadays, apparently the worst I can manage is tipping my Uber a bit too generously, sending an overly flirty PM to a Lit friend, and staying up too late masturbating.

I either got really, really boring, or this is what getting old feels like. Fuck.

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As one of the 'cheaters', I can tell you that there are lots of reasons why people stay in insufferable marriages, long after they really should have headed for the hills. Most of the time it's because children are involved, and breaking up the family is not in their best interest (*or so we think. I'm not so sure anymore. I've learned that it's more detrimental to the children to live in a household where there is no loving relationship to model as normal. They grow up thinking that dysfunction is normal). Other reasons could include financial instability or health matters.

In my case, it was all three. I've learned not to assume anything when it comes to relationships. What a couple looks like out in the daylight is often very different from how they interact in the privacy of their own home. Everyone is different, everyone has their reasons, and having just come through that situation, I've learned that much at least.

This.
No longer married, but I remember those days well. Yes. The always honorable thing to do is come clean. Sometimes it takes time.
 
My stomach turns when I read personals adverts that blatantly advertise for someone to cheat with. If your current partner doesn't do it for you, then FFS show respect for them as a human being by telling them and then, if necessary, ending it and moving on. :mad:
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As one of the 'cheaters', I can tell you that there are lots of reasons why people stay in insufferable marriages, long after they really should have headed for the hills.

Not all 'cheaters' are in an insufferable marriage. Some may just want new and different experiences.

Cheating doesn't always have to do with a partner 'not doing it for you'. There are many reasons why people do what they do.

I think it's interesting when someone in a clearly atypical sexual lifestyle tries to tell others how to best live their own.
 
Not all 'cheaters' are in an insufferable marriage. Some may just want new and different experiences.

Cheating doesn't always have to do with a partner 'not doing it for you'. There are many reasons why people do what they do.

I think it's interesting when someone in a clearly atypical sexual lifestyle tries to tell others how to best live their own.

Absolutely true. I was zeroing in on the 'not doing it for you' part, and taking a mental leap based on my own experience. But there are as many variations as there are relationships. It's best not to generalize.
 
Absolutely true. I was zeroing in on the 'not doing it for you' part, and taking a mental leap based on my own experience. But there are as many variations as there are relationships. It's best not to generalize.

Oh I know :) I wasn't commenting on your specific experience, more so that it's not always "be thrilled 24/7 or walk". there are many factors, not even getting to children or finances, as to why people do what they do.
 
Is "Netflix and chill" guaranteed sex? Because if I'm not getting, at a minimum, a blowjob out of the deal, what's the fucking point? I can lump on the couch and watch Netflix by my damn self. And, alone, I know I'll be watching something I actually want to watch and I won't have some mooch purloining my pizza.
I suspect that anyone who invites me to Netflix and chill would be disappointed. I'm likely to show up in my actual pjs with popcorn and the expectation of watching all 8 Harry Potter movies.

It’s all about the BBQ. It started with talk of brisket yesterday. Now I’m going down that rabbit hole. :)

It's always a good day for brisket. :heart:
 
Okay. I feel that I'm being misrepresented here. Please can those concerned take another look at my words in bold below.

My stomach turns when I read personals adverts that blatantly advertise for someone to cheat with. If your current partner doesn't do it for you, then FFS show respect for them as a human being by telling them and then, if necessary, ending it and moving on. :mad:
I'm talking about having decent human respect for a partner to whom one has made a commitment. I'm not preaching about lifestyle choices. Make your own choices, but try to have some integrity about them.

I'm annoyed here because I feel that people are shooting from the hip at me, perhaps because of their own insecurities. I don't intend to discuss this any further because I don't expect to be able to have a rational debate instead of tribal finger-pointing.

I'd be very grateful if someone who did understand my original sentiments would speak up on support, to demonstrate that I'm not out of turn here. I don't seem to get that very often here, and I'd really appreciate it right now. :(
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Okay. I feel that I'm being misrepresented here. Please can those concerned take another look at my words in bold below.


I'm talking about having decent human respect for a partner to whom one has made a commitment. I'm not preaching about lifestyle choices. Make your own choices, but try to have some integrity about them.

I'm annoyed here because I feel that people are shooting from the hip at me, perhaps because of their own insecurities. I don't intend to discuss this any further because I don't expect to be able to have a rational debate instead of tribal finger-pointing.

I'd be very grateful if someone who did understand my original sentiments would speak up on support, to demonstrate that I'm not out of turn here. I don't seem to get that very often here, and I'd really appreciate it right now. :(
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I don’t think no one understands. I agree with you to a point. The sadness of this place gets to me sometimes. Lots of searching and escaping.
Not everyone, though.


But I full on agree with bb.

And Avery.
 
Okay. I feel that I'm being misrepresented here. Please can those concerned take another look at my words in bold below.


I'm talking about having decent human respect for a partner to whom one has made a commitment. I'm not preaching about lifestyle choices. Make your own choices, but try to have some integrity about them.

I'm annoyed here because I feel that people are shooting from the hip at me, perhaps because of their own insecurities. I don't intend to discuss this any further because I don't expect to be able to have a rational debate instead of tribal finger-pointing.

I'd be very grateful if someone who did understand my original sentiments would speak up on support, to demonstrate that I'm not out of turn here. I don't seem to get that very often here, and I'd really appreciate it right now. :(
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You don't need people to agree with you, obviously if people were perfect no one would be cheating, but guess what life is not perfect. Stick to your guns and stand strong to your beliefs, you don't need anyone to agree and it shouldn't matter if people disagree with you. Many here don't feel like being judged, but the reality we are always being judged. Women and men are guilty of this, it's a real thought and topic.
 
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The only one I see pointing fingers is you, MF.
Unless it directly affects you, why do you care?

You and TB seem very happy. That’s a good thing. Enjoy it. :heart:
 
Honestly, I think I did understand your original intent. And I stand by my post. I'm sorry if you feel we're finger-pointing - I think it's a good conversation to have. Because I've heard the same thing from more than a few litsters, who are here but happily in a relationship.

"Why would you cheat? Just leave him. " And more bluntly, "Grow some balls, bb. Move out and move on!" But it's not always that easy. IF, there is no marriage to dissolve, no assets to divide, no children to think of, then yes. I agree. Do the right thing, own up to the fact that your relationship is not working, and move on. But if there are those obstacles (and I didn't even get into the 'til death do us part' religious aspects of leaving a spouse), it's not as cut-and-dried as all of that. There are situations in which it can be done - and there are a multitude of situations in which it cannot. So yes - cheating is 'bad'. But I don't think of it in those terms anymore because everyone's situation is different.

Thank you for bringing up the subject. As you can tell, it's on my mind a lot, and when someone addresses it, I just like to give an alternative viewpoint. No insult intended.
 
Unless it directly affects you, why do you care?
Good question! Going back to the original posting that set me off, I guess it's because I've been trying to use that same personals section for some time to express an ethical desire. I've been getting no traction whatsoever and I wonder whether it's because I'm just in the wrong place: automatically tainted by association with other stuff that goes on there.

That's my honest brain dump, anyway. Am I going to be judged on that? *shrugs*
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Good question! Going back to the original posting that set me off, I guess it's because I've been trying to use that same personals section for some time to express an ethical desire. I've been getting no traction whatsoever and I wonder whether it's because I'm just in the wrong place: automatically tainted by association with other stuff that goes on there.

That's my honest brain dump, anyway. Am I going to be judged on that? *shrugs*
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Honesty is good...people may not agree with you, and I have a different view myself, but good for you for stating how you feel!
 
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