Wassup with races?

[Icingsugar]

Wow. I'm gone just a few short hours, and you all start without me.

So , to cover some gound, here are a few replies from top to bottom of thread:


Lauren (and raphy): You're not American...
True, but I'm more american than most. Lived in the midwest and in the bible belt countryside for a couple of years. I think I know what you're aimimg at.

Svenskaflicka: Seriously, I like the Interracial section, because I prefer black men.
That's entirely up to you. Personally I have always had a thing for mediterranean girls. But does the idea of a black man screwing a white woman (not counting yourself ) turn you on more or differently than a black man with a black woman. And if so, why?

Og: There could be interesting stories about conflict of cultures
Indeed, a good growing ground for all kinds of erotic tension. Got very little to do with race though.

Campagne: You are all stuck in an interracial stereotype. This category can encompass stories about Asian women and Slavic reindeer ranchers or even the Turkish pasha with his harem full of exotic women.
1. It rarely does.
2. Even when it does, is it the issue of race that is interresting, or the issue of cultural diffffferencies?

(Sorry, there's something wrong with the F key on me keyboard...)

BlackSnake: The fact is, a lot of white kids are tought that black people are scrum.
Been there, done that. But vice versa. Dated a black girl while I lived in the US a few years ago. Her family was really cool with me, although they mentioned the remarks they got from others in the community about it. And lots of pepole, especially white folks, looked funny at us, as if I had picked her up on the street, even when she was more conservatively dressed than a librarian...



So, that an Interracial relationship still saises a few uneducated eyebrows is noting that I'm surprised with. I'm just asking, is that something that should be sancioned by giving it a label and saying "Yes, sex between races is maybe not wrong, but definitely an alternative form of intimacy."?

 

[gauchecritic]

It looks to me like any 'net' organisation is made up in the same way as any other media organisation, viz, produced by and for middle class white folks. These will be the largest market available (or gullible) having the greater amounts of time, money and education.

Almost all 'broad' porn sites (picture sites, not us superior snobs who only read/write about it) make distinctions based purely on what is not white or middle class.

Just off the top of my head:

Asian, black, Latin, European, gay, lesbian, bi, toys, bdsm, mature, old, trans and incest.

All particularly not white, middle class or (forgot to mention) age demogrified. They include things not spoken of in polite company and things (people) who are 'aimed at' as polite company.

Gauche

Edited to add, I think Perdita next is talking to Iceboy

 

[Guest]

Sugar, we posted simultaneously (cool, eh?) I like your thinking and questions.

Perdita

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Ice; I like the beauty of contrasts. Yin and Yang. Black man, white woman. White man, black woman. Asian man, black woman, White man, asian woman, Black man, asian woman, asian man, white woman. Multi-cultural gang-bang!

I've been with enough people from each of the nationalities I listed earlier to know that it's not the skin color or the ethnicity that makes me like or dislike a person, but the personality.

To me, skin color has lost every form of drama, and is now just a difference of appearance.

 

[Guest]

Ha! Now Gauche and I arrive simultaneously.

Seriously, I realize I don't have the objectivity required, and so appreciate both Sugar's and Gauche's intelligently astute observations.

Perdita

 

[BlackSnake]

Wow. I'm gone just a few short hours, and you all start without me.

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So, that an Interracial relationship still saises a few uneducated eyebrows is noting that I'm surprised with. I'm just asking, is that something that should be sancioned by giving it a label and saying "Yes, sex between races is maybe not wrong, but definitely an alternative form of intimacy."?

The racism over here is what makes it taboo. Even though there are a lot of inter-racial relationships, people who are too chicken to try it fantasize about it.

 

[gauchecritic]

people who are too chicken to try it fantasize about it.

An odd and revealing turn of phrase there snake.

Gauche

 

[Guest]

people who are too chicken to try it fantasize about it.

See, Snake, now that is not an intelligent and astute statement (see above). Why don't you explain what you mean by 'chicken'? Fear of what? the law? reputation? losing face? one's parents? one's self?

Perdita

OK, it's not just at you, Snake. I'm irked at the serious subjects on the AH that get sideswiped by glibness. I'm not talking like Mabeuse here, not about thread-jacking or silliness. Bye.

 

[BlackSnake]

Bye.

Where are you going?

"In more technical terms" as one of my professors use to say, huh Perdita?

This is not a presentation, nor this forum a meeting that affects my income. You have to pay for that.

The explaination is in the context of the statement.

 

[destinie21]

I just wanted to add this most every relationship is going to be interaccial unless you and the person you're lovin/fuckin comes from the exact same makeup. As the Parisian/black chick with the "chinky" green eyes and the silky "good hair" Racism was all around me. I don't want to ruffle any feathers but if I do... Oh well. When I walk down the street or in for an interveiw or in a store no matter my actual background all people see is my "nigger" brown skin. I've been go see's and been told to my face I'm to ethnic or not american enough or not what they're looking for. I've been told about playing the race card, the latter has always been said by someone who wasn't dealt the "race card". To them I say honey we're not even playing the same game. I want to ask them have you ever been out walking in the suburbs minding your own ansd been stopped by a police cruiser?
And the officer has the unadultrated nerve to ask "What's a woman like you doing in this area?" And when you reply going home the officer wants to know where you're coming from? And then once you are home you see that same car doing a once around the neighboorhood just to make sure.

Again there's nothing wrong with interracial sex hell it's sexy as anything else that turns you on. The problem for me is it's in it's own category. When has seprate but equal ever worked?

The Mrs

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I don't know, I feel as if this is blown out of proportion. We're talking about colours here, people! Not races! Dogs and cats belong to different races, not humans! And if we HAD been different races, we wouldn't have been able to have children and grandchildren!

 

[Icingsugar]

I don't know, I feel as if this is blown out of proportion. We're talking about colours here, people! Not races! Dogs and cats belong to different races, not humans! And if we HAD been different races, we wouldn't have been able to have children and grandchildren!

Don't want to nitpick, but dogs and cats belong to different spieces. Poodles and taxes belong to diffferent races.

And a tax don't give a shit. It will fuck anything that smells Dog. It might stay away from the Golden Retriever, but that's just because he has short legs, and that particular bitch would be a bitch to mount.

 

[destinie21]

I don't know, I feel as if this is blown out of proportion. We're talking about colours here, people! Not races! Dogs and cats belong to different races, not humans! And if we HAD been different races, we wouldn't have been able to have children and grandchildren!

Babe if everyone thought like you the world would be a better place, unfortunately it's not the case.

 

[Icingsugar]

See, Snake, now that is not an intelligent and astute statement (see above). Why don't you explain what you mean by 'chicken'? Fear of what? the law? reputation? losing face? one's parents? one's self?

Aww, don't smack down on the poor man like that, just for being imprecise. I think the fear in question could be all of those things. Basically fear of how the world around would react.

But mostly I think it's fear of engaging in something that mistakenly had been preconcepted as different. Most pepole never head out and explore the unknown. But those who do, be it via travelling, religion, sex, scuba diving, they all seem to come to the same conclusion. The grass on the other side did indeed taste a little diffferent, but at the end of the day, it's just grass. Everyone, Dalai Lama aswell as Larry Flynt, eats, sleeps and shits.

 

[BlackSnake]

We have to do what pleases us and deal with the fall-out, but I'm not going to turn the other cheek. Step on my toe, and I'll cut off your fuckin' leg (fuck an eye for an eye).

 

[destinie21]

We have to do what pleases us and deal with the fall-out, but I'm not going to turn the other cheek. Step on my toe, and I'll cut off your fuckin' leg (fuck an eye for an eye).

As usual snake I find my self agreeing and disagreeing with you.
We should never have to justify our actions to the masses ie I should never have to explain my love for K. However we should be able to explain.Also it would be nice if "we" could simply do what pleases us but you know good and hell well what pleases some doesn't please others and morals and ethics are relative.
If you don't follow my drift think of the misuse of the word picnic and get back to me.

 

[BlackSnake]

See, Snake, now that is not an intelligent and astute statement (see above). Why don't you explain what you mean by 'chicken'? Fear of what? the law? reputation? losing face? one's parents? one's self?

Perdita

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OK, I have a little time to pay more attention, but only this time.

Chicken, in the context of what I was saying meant fear of reprisals from family, friends, and the general public. Further, reprisals of the physical and psychological nature.

 

[BlackSnake]

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If you don't follow my drift think of the misuse of the word picnic and get back to me.

A lot of people don't know that picnic was a special event were families gathered together in festive spirits to "Pic-a-Nigger" (One of the many known history facts - Which was also in one of my high school textbooks.)

 

[gauchecritic]

A lot of people don't know that picnic was a special event were families gathered together in festive spirits to "Pic-a-Nigger" (One of the many known history facts - Which was also in one of my high school textbooks.)

Very little known, I've never heard of this so am guessing it is an American twist. The etymology of picnic is from french to do with woven rugs.

Gauche

 

[destinie21]

Very little known, I've never heard of this so am guessing it is an American twist. The etymology of picnic is from french to do with woven rugs.

Gauche

that's why I quoted it as the misuse of the french word pique-nique which was really more of a pot luck the actual outside meal thing wasn't a part of the definition until about the 17 century. The misuse of the word came during slave times when a random black person would be picked then lynched followed by outside dinner and festivities.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Don't want to nitpick, but dogs and cats belong to different spieces. Poodles and taxes belong to diffferent races.

And a tax don't give a shit. It will fuck anything that smells Dog. It might stay away from the Golden Retriever, but that's just because he has short legs, and that particular bitch would be a bitch to mount.

Ja, ja, ja...

Förresten, "tax" betyder "skatt" på engelska. Tax heter "Dachshound"...

Svenskaflicka
Besserwisser

 

[BlackSnake]

Very little known, I've never heard of this so am guessing it is an American twist. The etymology of picnic is from french to do with woven rugs.

Gauche

Don't worry about it.

 

[OldnotDead]

Urban MYTH

A lot of people don't know that picnic was a special event were families gathered together in festive spirits to "Pic-a-Nigger" (One of the many known history facts - Which was also in one of my high school textbooks.)

We don't need to propagate badly researched and even more poorly quoted 'facts'

One of my pet peeves about the internet is how quick a 'fact' becomes 'historical' when all it should be labeled is histerical.

check out this link for the details . . .
http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/picnic.htm

and here is short quote for those too lazy to look further.

<<Origins: _ Specious etymologies seem to be all the rage of late, and this wild claim about 'picnic' fits that trend. You'll be heartened to know 'picnic' has nothing to do with lynching Blacks (or anyone else, for that matter). The e-mailed "little known fact" quoted above is a hoax. And a mean-spirited one at that, one that makes all who repeat it look incredibly foolish.

<<'Picnic' began life as a 17th-century French word — it wasn't even close to being an American invention. A 1692 edition of Origines de la Langue Françoise de Ménage mentions 'piquenique' as being of recent origin marks the first appearance of the word in print. As for how the French came by this new term, it was likely invented by joining the common form of the verb 'piquer' (meaning "to pick" or "peck") and a nonsense rhyming syllable coined to fit the first half of this new palate-pleaser. >>

This subject is hot enough without adding misnomers and outright errors to the thread.

OnD

 

[gauchecritic]

Not something I care to know about really. I'm not being blaze or hiding from facts or superior in any style. I simply prefer not to be reminded about things that people have done to other people. If there's one thing that we learn from history it's that we never learn from history.

Gauche

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I had never heard of that...