Voice

[Mr Blonde]

Shadowdream already had a thread about eye contact...let's have a topic about voices. I do not want to bore everyone with details like pronunciation and enunciation, but public speaking is one of my interests to if people want to get specific I am familiar with the subject of voices.

One way for a Dom/me to control a scene is to manage their voice. Some people use volume in an attempt to sound powerful but I have always focused on pitch when taking control. A high vocal pitch lacks authority and a low pitch can be lethargic or distracting, but the right pitch provides all the assurance necessary to indicate that the dominant is in charge.

I like to use a pleasant, confident and energetic tone that conveys intelligence and sincerity. Speaking in a fluid, natural and unhesitant style seems to put the submissive at ease and have her place her confidence in me. The largest obstacle I have had to overcome is to make sure my voice does not sound angry.

When it comes to submissives, I like women who have a smooth tone that easily conveys emotion. I enjoy a crisp voice that demonstrates intelligence and respect. This is harder to describe, but I also like a woman's voice to be vibrant and free of tension...unless there is a good reason for her to be temporarily tense.

What sort of voice do you think a dominant should have? How about a submissive?

 

[AvaAdore]

i think a person's natural voice is best. if you're deliberatly making your voice different, it's as if you're just pretending. as if the Dom isn't really a Dom, but just pretending to be one for the time being.

to me, a person being themselves, regardless of whether they are dominant or submissive, is the most arousing thing they can do. it's about sincerity.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Hi Mr. Blonde,
I enjoy the idea of one playing one's voice like a musical instrument, which, of course, it is, and i have a general preference for a voice type (husky tenor), but have to agree with aa here.
The most important part is something indesribable that comes out underneath the tone. When my husband suddenly slipped into comfortable domhood one night, his voice was, if anything, calmer and lighter than usual, as if he just Assumed I'd Of Course, do his bidding and do it exactly.
He was very relaxed. And -- somehow I think this may be more important -- not paying attention to what he was doing or how he was sounding -- just getting his needs met, getting what he wanted. Matter-of-fact. If anything, he sounded a little amused.
I'm using a lot of words here because it's hard to explain.

Best I can do is: there can be a lot of enjoyment, i think, in someone using a certain tone, but it seems to be more in the intent than in the execution.

 

[Xelebes]

Ah, something I can relate too dearly. Voices, if I were to go deaf I would be totally lost without voices.

Now, I'm not too sure in how I should carry my voice in bed/playing (being a virgin and all) but there are certain characteristics I look for in a female voice.

A deep brooding contralto/alto voice is very disconcerting and lacks something. Possibly reminding me of rudeness and maybe undesirable undertones of rage. It's an unpleasant texture, like sandpaper. That leaves about half the women out, approximately. I prefer a mezzosoprano-ranged voice, nicely balanced (for dom purposes) or nasal (which for me implicates a sense of need, not desirable for a dom to possess). Quiet and firm is good, loud and boisterous brings fear and intimidation which is definitely no good.

So yeah, that's what I like in a voice. Voices are key for me.

 

[ownedsubgal]

i adore Daddy's deep, yet melodic voice, and the clear, confident, and authoratative way in which he speaks. i love the way his voice changes depending on his emotions at the moment...(took me ages to be able to differentiate his angry voice from his super-horny voice, as they are extremely similar). definitely could not be happy with a Dominant with a whimpy or feminine voice.

 

[FungiUg]

I definately use voice... d.d.d.definately.

For me, it's more about timbre and pitch. I normally speak in a pleasant (so I am told) tenor, but when I am actively dominating, I drop the pitch to a baritone, and add a certain emphatic pitch.

In fact, I rely more on voice intonation than I do on eye contact.

 

[shy slave]

The deep timbre of a voice just screams authority to me, especially when they don't have to raise it to be heard or understood.

A quiet but deep voice works for me everytime
Sends shivers down my spine and I just go into "Yes" mode.

Also the long, drawn out, end of a word or sentence makes me squirm and wonder what I said to get such a scary reaction.

A raised voice at any time, scene or not, is a real turn-off.

I like Fungiug's comment that he uses voice more than eye contact.

I rely on the tone and pitch of His voice to know if I please Him.

shy slave

 

[Kajira Callista]

I definately use voice... d.d.d.definately.

For me, it's more about timbre and pitch. I normally speak in a pleasant (so I am told) tenor, but when I am actively dominating, I drop the pitch to a baritone, and add a certain emphatic pitch.

In fact, I rely more on voice intonation than I do on eye contact.

there is a way a voice changes...like fungiUg just described. it gets deeper ,calmer and smoother and much more serious. that is something that is real important to me for some reason. i think its the feeling you get when you hear the change. *shrugs*

 

[Xelebes]

there is a way a voice changes...like fungiUg just described. it gets deeper ,calmer and smoother and much more serious. that is something that is real important to me for some reason. i think its the feeling you get when you hear the change. *shrugs*

I'm literally converting all your adjectives I learned from choir class, which raised a few ideas in my mind for a story.

 

[Xelebes]

there is a way a voice changes...like fungiUg just described. it gets deeper ,calmer and smoother and much more serious. that is something that is real important to me for some reason. i think its the feeling you get when you hear the change. *shrugs*

I'm literally converting all your adjectives I learned from choir class, which raised a few ideas in my mind for a story.

 

[MastrJ]

I definitely pay attention to the pitch of my voice. I pay attention to it at all times. I learned a long time ago that I could effect people's perceptions by how my voice sounded. It's not that I'm affecting a different voice, but I am controlling how it sounds. This carries through to speaking other languages as well. My voice sounds very different when I'm speaking in German than when I speak English. By altering my voice slightly it's easier to maintain a proper accent and not let any 'Americanisms' creep into my German pronounciation.

 

[AvaAdore]

The most important part is something indesribable that comes out underneath the tone. When my husband suddenly slipped into comfortable domhood one night, his voice was, if anything, calmer and lighter than usual, as if he just Assumed I'd Of Course, do his bidding and do it exactly.
He was very relaxed. And -- somehow I think this may be more important -- not paying attention to what he was doing or how he was sounding -- just getting his needs met, getting what he wanted. Matter-of-fact. If anything, he sounded a little amused.

yes!!

 

[s'lara]

Well, voice intontation is important. Much of what a person is feeling can be reflected in the voice. A drop in timbre could signal sexual arousal, anger, seriousness, etc. Often, the change in pitch is indicative of things to come, e.g., the Dominant's voice dips to a hush right before their hand snakes out to slap a sub across the face. The same scenario would work if the Dominant's voice increased in tone or even shook with emotion.

As for what kind of voice a Dominant or submissive should have is really not something i think of as very important. Unless the voice of each is on the extreme end of the tone spectrum (a voice which causes an incredible amout of irritation or distraction), i don't see it being a big issue. If the Dominant or sub were a match in most areas with the exception of their voice, would you (the general "you") walk away from that person or learn to appreciate this unique aspect?

Sure, it is tough to feel commanded by a voice which lacks the right blend of imperiality, control and iciness. i just don't know if i would go so far as to place this quality high on a list of Dominant "must haves." As long as they don't sound like Mickey Mouse on steroids, i am ok with pretty much most tones.

lara

 

[Xelebes]

I find the voice is obe of the first key things I look for in a woman, so yeah I';d probably walk away if I did not like the subtleties in the voice.

 

[Avery_Chisholm]

i think a person's natural voice is best. if you're deliberatly making your voice different, it's as if you're just pretending. as if the Dom isn't really a Dom, but just pretending to be one for the time being.

to me, a person being themselves, regardless of whether they are dominant or submissive, is the most arousing thing they can do. it's about sincerity.

well said ITA

 

[Esclava]

Contralto/speaking - soprano/singing voice

Lurch....from the Adams Family!

If you want to get my attention, call my name in a deep baritone or bass for a man and contralto (which is where my speaking voice is) for a woman. That timbre just grabs my clit at its base.

But, once you get my attention, then raise it about a 3rd; it caresses my eardrums and in the process takes my body through phases of arousal that will make it scream in ecstasy - sometimes without even being touched.

Esclava

 

[Xelebes]

A question for dommes:

Is it good to have the male-sub to possess a deep bassy voice?

>.>

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[Esclava]

A question for dommes:

Is it good to have the male-sub to possess a deep bassy voice?

>.>

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As one exploring her Switch potential, I find a unique thrill in hearing a deep bassy voice beg me for permission ...

To do anything that pleases me!

Esclava

 

[shelleb4]

having moved from uk to australia, for the first time, im hearing people with different accents all around me. As i amuse myself paying attn to the rising notes on the end of every ozzie accented sentence. The males all sound very rough to my ear that is tuned to hear class distinctions in voices (its drummed into you from a early age) But sounding rough is not a bad thing.

The sratchy noise of the vietnames accent that sits many octaves above my own and the rate of speech only used in emergency situations in english, i find my flight or fight reflex triggered in listening.

Also my vioce is foreign to others now. Say that again? either because they cant understand what ive said, or they just want to hear me say it again - thats odd. Its they that have the accent, not me lol.

Once had a partner who sounded like barry white. Great, sexy very arousing initially, but there is only limited inflection and therefor a constraint on the emotional signals sent in the voice. I found this hampered my reading of the not so verbal verbal queues.

I love listening to other languages, orientals have more keys than us note wise, it sounds very sing songy when you are used to it.

 

[Xelebes]

I find Swiss German to be quite interesting. They vary their tones quite a bit within each consonant it makes Japanese sound a bit dulled. Looping arches of pitches and vowels highly characterise their flavour and really accentuate the German rhythms ( __- __- ). Take a look at Silent Night's rhythms, especially when you take the German Words "Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht". I find the rhythm quite nice. Gaelic (Gaelige) has interesting rhythms though they tend to vary less but the rhythm is much more interesting. More like -__ -__.

However the rhythms actually slow down the speech. In French, the rhythm is straight and even giving an easier flow to say a bit more while having to say more words too.

But yeah, there is my little diversion into languages.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

And then their is voice without language. Mmms, and such.

Something Kajira Callista said on the taking the pain thread about going into the pain, the way she described the feeling of it (which, incidentally was one of the things I'd tried to say there) comes to mind when I think about what's important to me in voice. There is something almost subliminal that comes thru, something that would make any voice work for me, but without it, it doesn't matter how beautiful or melodic or close to pref in tone and style. Same thing as in singing. How much you mean the words, how much you feel them. Where you are in the room when you say them, and i don't mean physically.
There's something that happens sometimes most especially when you talk to someone late at night, in the dark, that can make you feel close when your far away, say over the phone, and far away when you're close.
It's that still moonlit feeling and it either comes thru or it doesn't.
Seems to come through via the internet, too, which I totally don't understand, but there it is. Or not.

 

[bridgeburner]

I'm not a stickler for voices --- unless that's all I'm getting --- but I do appreciate a certain quality --

James Earl Jones
Vin Diesel
Michael Wincott

I'd likely immediately do anything commanded by any of these voices before I even thought about it.

That was one of my greatest disappointments with David Lynch's version of Dune (among so many other things). The concept of the Bene Jesserit Weirding Voice absolutely fascinated me when I read the books. The idea that they were trained to psychoanalyse people in order to pitch their voices specifically at individuals in order to command them and coerce them. I jokingly refer to it as the Voice of Mom.

It's not without basis in the real world, though and I'm always on the lookout for such things.

Closest to home, my roommate has the wimpiest voice of nearly anyone I've met. Not just tonally or pitch-wise, but the intent behind it is so defeatist she can't even get her own dogs to shut up. It drives me crazy. Her dogs do exactly what I tell them the minute that I tell them when she's not around. They're not bad dogs, they're just totally undisciplined and she has no idea or any real desire to change that.

On a more sexual bent I've noticed a certain type of voice predominates among anonymous obscene phone callers --- the ones that like to talk rather than listen, that is. Perhaps it's just been my luck to attract these types, but I notice that they generally are higher register voices with a somewhat whiny, pleading tone to them.

Men who speak well are a definite turn on. If they speak well and have nice voices even more so.


-B

 

[shy slave]

Phoenix Stone

"It that still moonlit feeling and it either comes thru or it doesn't.
Seems to come through via the internet, too."



I agree PS sometimes when you reads things either thru Pm's or on the boards, you can imagine the voice of the person in your mind.

Perhaps you almost develop a sixth sense of trust (or otherwise) through reading people's words and 'listening' to it via the net.

Somehow you know when people are being real or sincere in what they have written.

Since reading your post i have been trying to imagine some of the voices of the posters on here:

Mr Blonde's voice ~ Deep but reasonable, teacher style perhaps?

Shadowsdream ~ Gorgeous, deep with a slight smokiness/huskiness a la Dusty Springfield?

Fungiug with a hint of devilment,

But as for AngelicAssassin.... Mmmm high pitched & nasel???... No perhaps not :

But you have certainly made me smile as I think about it

shy slave

edited as i did the quote thing wrong and its still not right lol

 

[Xelebes]

I'm not a stickler for voices --- unless that's all I'm getting --- but I do appreciate a certain quality --

James Earl Jones
Vin Diesel
Michael Wincott

I'd likely immediately do anything commanded by any of these voices before I even thought about it.

That was one of my greatest disappointments with David Lynch's version of Dune (among so many other things). The concept of the Bene Jesserit Weirding Voice absolutely fascinated me when I read the books. The idea that they were trained to psychoanalyse people in order to pitch their voices specifically at individuals in order to command them and coerce them. I jokingly refer to it as the Voice of Mom.

It's not without basis in the real world, though and I'm always on the lookout for such things.

Closest to home, my roommate has the wimpiest voice of nearly anyone I've met. Not just tonally or pitch-wise, but the intent behind it is so defeatist she can't even get her own dogs to shut up. It drives me crazy. Her dogs do exactly what I tell them the minute that I tell them when she's not around. They're not bad dogs, they're just totally undisciplined and she has no idea or any real desire to change that.

On a more sexual bent I've noticed a certain type of voice predominates among anonymous obscene phone callers --- the ones that like to talk rather than listen, that is. Perhaps it's just been my luck to attract these types, but I notice that they generally are higher register voices with a somewhat whiny, pleading tone to them.

Men who speak well are a definite turn on. If they speak well and have nice voices even more so.


-B

Yes, firmness is a quality that I desire, in both senses. I hyave a great difficulty when it comes to not mumbling and so I am quiet or not heard. Sometimes I will talk loud but not often. It's something I need to work just like my self-confidence as my manager tells me that I am really weak in that spot.

 

[Esclava]

Re: Phoenix Stone

<snip>Since reading your post i have been trying to imagine some of the voices of the posters on here:

Mr Blonde's voice ~ Deep but reasonable, teacher style perhaps?

Shadowsdream ~ Gorgeous, deep with a slight smokiness/huskiness a la Dusty Springfield?

Fungiug with a hint of devilment,

But as for AngelicAssassin.... Mmmm high pitched & nasel???... No perhaps not :
<snip>

All Dom/mes, shy? Hmmmm.....May I add my .02 cents?

I agree, Mr. Blonde - studious...yes.

I "hear" Shadowsdream as Geena Davis a la "League of our Own."

Fungiug might sound like a mischievous Sean Connery....not deep, but confident and terribly sexy.

And AngelicAssassin - oh my......I "hear" him as the sexiest "intelligent" voice I've ever heard....Leonard Nimoy/Mr. Spock - especially when he is explaining something. And the wit... Caustic or not, his words will get your attention (and the attention of something else if you are really listening )

Ahhhhh...the effects of voices ... enjoy!

Esclava