US On Brink Of ‘Catastrophic’ UFO Leak, Experts’ Claim

[icanhelp1]

You don't have to believe in Dark Matter. Last I checked its the leading theory for what the math says but I'm not gonna argue Neil DeGrasse Titan about physics. Not my home court. When I mentioned that gravity is more complex than most people handle I wasn't really talking about why if take a ball and drop it it will hit the floor. I'm talking about stuff like why don't we fall into the sun? Why do the planets rotate all in the same orbit. As opposed to say electons around an atom.

To much science for 90% of people actually.

Most people don’t understand the complexity of gravity. How particles with mass are attracted to each other. Understanding what *MASS* is as it relates to quantum mechanics. Understanding how the current theory of “HIGGS FIELD“ affects mass. Before we can accelerate beyond the speed of light we would have to neutralize gravity. The string theory is fascinating and if someday we could examine the existence of string wave ( theory that string waves are the lowest denomination of matter as we know it). Understanding gravity, the higgs field. string theory, absolute zero and how to take the energy from 8 spoon and make the ninth spoon hotter (creation of extreme heat energy exponentially) we’d be well on our way to understanding mass, energy and why particle are attracted to each other, their relationship to each other before we even begin to contemplate speed of light travel. E=MC² Explains how energy relates to mass and can be converted from one to another, back and forth. The old adage *energy can neither be created nor destroyed*.

Dark matter and dark energy is the current theory as to why the universe is expanding at an astounding rate of speed.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The thing is we are moving because of gravity not despite it. And billions of years seems like if gravity worked the way we (or I) understand it that is a lot longer than it should take unless there is either A something that I just can't glean from reading because I need a stronger foundation or there is an X factor.

It's clear we don't understand gravity to the extent we need to in order to find a mathematical solution to the observed actions.But for the orbit 'decay" the math checks out.

Okay same plane, clearly you understood my point and I'm sure there is some kind of rational reason, just not one I understand.

Yep

I could also have used plenty of religious beliefs. Like don't eat pork or bottom feeders. We know now that its because of various germs, parasites and viruses common in them if they are't properly prepared. The Priests were wrong that God said don't eat this but they were right at least at the time that you shouldn't eat that.

I think that is observed cause and effect playing out back then. I think that maybe its something inherent in our species that what we see and experience drives a desire to understand why. Religion is a great placeholder to explain that which we don't understand.Or it would have for people in the distant past.

Which tells me that you can come to a conclusion that is functional. As in it works for what you need it to work for but you're not technically correct. I figure there are lots of things we think we understand now that if the only think you are trying to do is get to the moon and back or maybe Mars you'll be fine. If you're trying to reach Alpha Centari (the nearest star aside from Sol to us) you're gonna need to crack the code. I may be wrong.

I don't think your wrong, but I do wonder if there is a way, or if it is a hard limit. When you look at quantum physics, the behaviour ( entanglement) we observe between quantum particles gives the idea that the speed of light is not a limit. It's just that pesky "mass" problem.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Most people don’t understand the complexity of gravity.

Most people don't need to either, but I do get your point.

How particles with mass are attracted to each other. Understanding what *MASS* is as it relates to quantum mechanics. Understanding how the current theory of “HIGGS FIELD“ affects mass.

Mass isn't the problem, we mathematically have no issue with mass at all. And you are correct,it is the relationship between mass, gravity, and the four Universal forces that keep us from being able to reach a "Universal theory". Myself I think we are missing a force, or perhaps it is the that the weak force, is not actually the full force, and there are parts of it that interact in ways we can't observe.

E=MC² Explains how energy relates to mass and can be converted from one to another, back and forth. The old adage *energy can neither be created nor destroyed*.

You're mixing up the Law of Conservation of Mass.

Dark matter and dark energy is the current theory as to why the universe is expanding at an astounding rate of speed.

Yep,and one theory I disagree with, but there is no way in hell I could even attempt to solve it either. So I guess I will have to wait to see if it is shown being correct.

 

[HisArpy]

Most people don’t understand the complexity of gravity. How particles with mass are attracted to each other. Understanding what *MASS* is as it relates to quantum mechanics. Understanding how the current theory of “HIGGS FIELD“ affects mass. Before we can accelerate beyond the speed of light we would have to neutralize gravity. The string theory is fascinating and if someday we could examine the existence of string wave ( theory that string waves are the lowest denomination of matter as we know it). Understanding gravity, the higgs field. string theory, absolute zero and how to take the energy from 8 spoon and make the ninth spoon hotter (creation of extreme heat energy exponentially) we’d be well on our way to understanding mass, energy and why particle are attracted to each other, their relationship to each other before we even begin to contemplate speed of light travel. E=MC² Explains how energy relates to mass and can be converted from one to another, back and forth. The old adage *energy can neither be created nor destroyed*.

Dark matter and dark energy is the current theory as to why the universe is expanding at an astounding rate of speed.

You do know that you lost him at "Most people", yes?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You do know that you lost him at "Most people", yes?

Nice to see I still live rent free in your mind....Carbon Water Boy.....oh and ican't made some errors, I see you never noticed those either, which I'm not really surprised about. *chuckles*

 

[icanhelp1]

Nice to see I still live rent free in your mind....Carbon Water Boy.....oh and ican't made some errors, I see you never noticed those either, which I'm not really surprised about. *chuckles*

What errors? The theory of energy conservation.

 

[Rightguide]

Wtf is a UFO expert?

Apparently in this case, "A group of former military personnel and government agents."

 

[Rightguide]

If alien beings went into some form of suspended animation I still doubt they would sneak around, and return to their planet. When they got back the civilization that sent them may have fallen. Their species might have become extinct. At the very least they would land somewhere and say, "Take me to your leader."

Maybe, if they exist, they are already here. 71% of the earth is covered in Water, much of the depths of which have never been explored by man. Maybe they're on the dark side of the Moon. Maybe they are us.

 

[Bray123]

We know from the Trump presidency that there is nothing to know about UFOs.

Because if he had been informed of anything, there's no way he could have kept his trap shut about it.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Maybe, if they exist, they are already here. 71% of the earth is covered in Water, much of the depths of which have never been explored by man. Maybe they're on the dark side of the Moon. Maybe they are us.

Spy satellites are revolving around the room. They are sensitive enough to detect the existence of a car. The have not found the kind of evidence extra terrestrial would leave of their visit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Most people don’t understand the complexity of gravity. How particles with mass are attracted to each other. Understanding what *MASS* is as it relates to quantum mechanics. Understanding how the current theory of “HIGGS FIELD“ affects mass. Before we can accelerate beyond the speed of light we would have to neutralize gravity. The string theory is fascinating and if someday we could examine the existence of string wave ( theory that string waves are the lowest denomination of matter as we know it). Understanding gravity, the higgs field. string theory, absolute zero and how to take the energy from 8 spoon and make the ninth spoon hotter (creation of extreme heat energy exponentially) we’d be well on our way to understanding mass, energy and why particle are attracted to each other, their relationship to each other before we even begin to contemplate speed of light travel. E=MC² Explains how energy relates to mass and can be converted from one to another, back and forth. The old adage *energy can neither be created nor destroyed*.

Dark matter and dark energy is the current theory as to why the universe is expanding at an astounding rate of speed.

Exactly this. If you never take college physics gravity is basically dumbed down to an apple fell on Newton's head and he learned a theory of the universe. As if he was the first intelligent person to see something fucking fall. I know its MUCH more complex than that for a lot of reasons but when the average modern American knows the same amount about gravity as did Neanderthals driving animals off cliffs to get food.

I would second that the average person has no need for it. I value knowledge for the sake of knowledge. I think we don't spend enough time teaching the arts or history or science. That doesn't change the fact I rarely need math beyond the basics, history is great for knowing why to vote for this or that but much else, I don't need to know how many bones are in the human body.

 

[icanhelp1]

Exactly this. If you never take college physics gravity is basically dumbed down to an apple fell on Newton's head and he learned a theory of the universe. As if he was the first intelligent person to see something fucking fall. I know its MUCH more complex than that for a lot of reasons but when the average modern American knows the same amount about gravity as did Neanderthals driving animals off cliffs to get food.

I would second that the average person has no need for it. I value knowledge for the sake of knowledge. I think we don't spend enough time teaching the arts or history or science. That doesn't change the fact I rarely need math beyond the basics, history is great for knowing why to vote for this or that but much else, I don't need to know how many bones are in the human body.

My point is if we have possession of an alien craft perhaps with some reverse engineering we could unlock some of these secrets. Cut out a few thousand years of scientific research and development.

I was by no stretch trying to be condescending.

 

[dkovic77]

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I was by no stretch trying to be condescending.

You… never.

Isn’t that your name at the restaurant? Call you Cond-y for short.

 

[icanhelp1]

You… never.

Isn’t that your name at the restaurant? Call you Cond-y for short.

Speaking of condescending!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

What errors? The theory of energy conservation.

The law of Conservation of Mass.

E=MC² Explains how energy relates to mass and can be converted from one to another, back and forth. The old adage *energy can neither be created nor destroyed*.

While E=MC² does mathematically link Energy to Mass. The adage you attributed to it was wrong.

The adage is not that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed", but under the Conservation of Energy the adage is "energy is neither created or destroyed". What you did was confuse the Law of Conservation of Mass, with the Law of Conservation of Energy where the adage of CoM is Matter can not be created nor destroyed...."

See a minor error, but still an error.Notice I didn't go nuts on it, or call you out. Because both adages are so similar its actually a common error.

 

[Rightguide]

Spy satellites are revolving around the room. They are sensitive enough to detect the existence of a car. The have not found the kind of evidence extra terrestrial would leave of their visit.

How deep can they detect movement in the ocean?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

. Maybe they're on the dark side of the Moon.

China, Japan, the European space agency and Nasa have all explored the "dark side of the moon". If they are there, we can't detect them.

 

[Wonderer67]

 

[icanhelp1]

The law of Conservation of Mass.




The adage is not that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed", but under the Conservation of Energy the adage is "energy is neither created or destroyed". What you did was confuse the Law of Conservation of Mass, with the Law of Conservation of Energy where the adage of CoM is Matter can not be created nor destroyed...."

See a minor error, but still an error.Notice I didn't go nuts on it, or call you out. Because both adages are so similar its actually a common error.

I made my statement from memory, from what I was taught 40- 50 years ago. I didn’t google it like you. Google was correct not you.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

How deep can they detect movement in the ocean?

Atlantis’s security systems would pick them up in that case.

 

[Sean Renaud]

How deep can they detect movement in the ocean?

Its not clear how deep we can detect movement. We do know over the decades the US, Russia, Europe as a whole have been flying patrols and sending subs down.

 

[dkovic77]

I made my statement from memory, from what I was taught 40- 50 years ago. I didn’t google it like you. Google was correct not you.

Memory… that is a funny one for you. You can’t remember how long to keep the baskets in the fryer.

 

[dkovic77]

Speaking of condescending!

You continually show yourself you be lacking, I just point out the truth. You can correct it by not speaking as much.

Is that what has happened in your real life, and you come here to spout off?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I made my statement from memory, from what I was taught 40- 50 years ago. I didn’t google it like you. Google was correct not you.

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, see its not that hard!

 

[icanhelp1]

Memory… that is a funny one for you. You can’t remember how long to keep the baskets in the fryer.

Don’t have to, there’s a timer. What a stupid statement.