Unprotected anal sex question

pune

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I have a question for anyone who knows out there. I have had protected anal sex with my girlfriend before but I was thinking about trying it unprotected. Now I know I don't have to worry about any STD's or STI's from her so if she takes an enema before hand is there any danger still involved with catching a big infection when not using a condom? :confused:
 
You said you dont need to worry about STD's (I'd disagree because you just never know, but ...), so what 'big disease' dude?

Simpliest thing is just use a condom and not worry.
 
It is, in fact, easier to contract an STD from unprotected anal sex. This is because tearing deep in the anal cavity is almost impossible to avoid no matter how much lube you use. Even if you see no blood, it's very likely there is some deep in there.

Not only that, but an enema won't help any. It is the exchange of bodily fluids we're talking about here; an enema can't do anything about that.

-3eyes
 
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By the whole STD thing I mean that she hasn't been with anybody but me before. But I'm guessing since the anus isn't the cleanest area on the body there is probably still a good chance for infection of some type right?
 
Stay protected regardless.

Anal sex is the highest risk of transmitting anything, and not wearing a condom is the highest risk of receiving anything.

Enjoy!
 
I presume you are talking about contracting something because you might come into contact with fecal matter? Yes, even with an enema, there will be left over bacteria and other sorts of "critters" in the rectum. Unavoidable.

As far as an infection? Actually, your girlfriend stands a bigger chance of getting an infection if your penis comes into contact with her vagina after having been in her rectum. As for you, well, I suppos if you don't clean yourself really well afterwards something might develop.

I've had anal sex with and without condoms. Never had any type of infection, and neither did my partners. However, whether a condom was used or not, both myself and my partners were very conscious of washing immediately afterwards. Just makes good sense.
 
basically me and my girlfriend were each others first and we both haven't had seperate partners since so what I'm mainly concerned about is rectal bacteria and other critters in there that could cause troubles for me or her. And yeah, I definitely don't plan to get my penis anywhere near the vaginal area. I've read all about the type of junk that could happen then
 
try to locate the site of dr jack morin,or his book on anal sex.If you two are disease fre and faithful each other,there's less risk of getting infections,for both of you.The rectum area is clean when is not used,but not bacteria free.If you use lot of lube and she 's WILLING to have anal sex,if you're gentle,the risk of fissures is lower.Try to use a bacteria killer soap afterwards,for you two.And try to empty your bladder afterwards.She has to clean herself payng attention on not pass the hand from the anus to the vagina,but viceversa; that is needed even when you use a condom.I've had anal sex in the past and,using particular attention,there were no ugly consequences.If you worry about other things,the colon is usually empty.So if she has emptied her boewls,usually,there's very small risk.For all of you,i'm not referring to what was my experience only,but mostly,what Jack Morin has stated in plenty interwiews and in his book,so i'm using a medical reference.Try to see also the book of tristan taormino or visit her site:There's plenty of faq and tips about it.She's not a doctor,but has interwiewed many phds.
 
Prune...Bottomline if there are no deseases to be caught between you two there is nothing common that will happen to your penis because of bare-backing anal sex.

If you want to scare yourself from having it i can tell you what you do have to worry about. As stated previously no matter how much lube you use there is a potential for tearing. A more common problem with those that have frequent anal sex (condom or not) (5x a week plus) is that the skin between the rectum and the vaginal canal can become worn away and eventually a hole will form. (don't ask how i know)

So that's the scary side of anal sex within a loving, committed, non-condom relationship.

Happy loving
O
 
OnyxEros said:
. . . If you want to scare yourself from having it i can tell you what you do have to worry about. As stated previously no matter how much lube you use there is a potential for tearing. A more common problem with those that have frequent anal sex (condom or not) (5x a week plus) is that the skin between the rectum and the vaginal canal can become worn away and eventually a hole will form. (don't ask how i know)

So that's the scary side of anal sex within a loving, committed, non-condom relationship.

Happy loving
O


Umm, no offense here, but what in the hell are you talking about??

I'm in a terrific relationship, married 15 years, had great sex years before we got married, we're big fans of anal sex (and he's a big boy, btw) we have two kids so he's had the big V (hence, no condoms) and we have NEVER had the problems you suggest.

I've read extensively about anal sex and I have never even heard of such a thing. (well actually, it reminds me of the scare tactics teachers used when I was in junior high to prevent us kids from having sex)

If something like that did actually happen, I imagine it was an individual problem that was worsened by sex in general. Childbirth puts a bit more wear and tear on that area than anal sex ever could (unless it is truly violent sex)

So there! :p

(sorry, I was getting too serious for a moment )
 
I've only had...

..anal sex with women who were long-term attractions; what's the record? Using soap and water afterwards, zero problems.

--Orson

PS I unterstand that anal intercouse and hygiene is area of some conroversy, even before AIDS was a crisis: but why is that? A left-over taboo? Or a real problem? THIS topic may well deserve its own thread...
 
There are many anal sex threads - it is a favorite topic of discussion around here!! :D

(click on search - and check it out!)
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
Umm, no offense here, but what in the hell are you talking about??

So there! :p

(sorry, I was getting too serious for a moment )

Settle down there Cap'n:D

Thank you for sharing the size of your hubbies member but the point I was trying to make is that if this person wanted to be scared out of anal sex there is medical (forgot the term) proof for what I described happening with frequent poorly lubricated anal sex.

Personal experience aside this has nothing to do with enjoying it. It's just a precaution.

Happy loving
O
 
Cap'n - I think I like that!! Check this info please:

This is from http://www.sexuality.org/l/incoming/analrule.html

10 Rules of Anal Sex by Jack Morin

Jack Morin, PhD, a San Francisco sex therapist and researcher, is the author of Anal Pleasure and Health.

Anal Eroticism is surrounded by a powerful taboo. Yet millions of men and women - straight, gay and bisexual - are experimenting with anal sex. The anus, richly endowed with nerve endings and interconnected with the main pelvic muscles, is the closest erogenous neighbor of the genitals and contracts rhythmically during orgasm. Thirty-five years ago, Kinsey stated that the anal region had erotic significance for about half of the population. In a survey of 100,000 Playboy readers, 47 percent of the men and 61 percent of the women admitted to having tried anal intercourse.

Yet the anal taboo inhibits most people from thinking, talking and learning about the sexual use of the anus. Listed here are the ten things most men and women still do not know about anal sex.

1. Anal intercourse is the least practiced form of anal sex.

There are many ways to enjoy the anus erotically. The most common techniques include touching the anal opening while masturbating or stimulating a partner's anus during intercourse or oral sex.

Some people enjoy the sensation of a finger - their own or a lover's - insinuated into their anal opening and gently rotated. Others may prefer the insertion of a dildo or vibrator beyond the anal opening and short anal canal into the larger rectum. Many men, including hetereosexuals, prefer this form of penetration.

Oral-anal lovemaking is popularly known as rimming. The very idea disgusts some people. Others enjoy performing it or allowing themselves to be probed in this special way.

2. Anal stimulation, including intercourse, is not painful if done properly.

The belief that anal stimulation, especially intercourse, has to hurt is a persistent and dangerous myth. Just as pain anywhere in the body indicates that something is wrong, so is the same true of the anal area. With its high concentration of nerve endings, the anus can produce extreme agony when it is mistreated. Yet it can be a source of great pleasure.

When a finger, object or penis is intorduced into the anus, the anal muscles go into spasm, as if fighting off an invasion. Pain will result if the partners do not wait for these muscles to relax. Under sufficient stress they will eventually collapse and the pain subside, unless further damage is done. But, any 'pleasure' afforded from this kind of activity derives mostly from the absence of discomfort.

Maximum anal pleasure requires the elimination of all pain or physical trauma from the anal experience. Self-protection on the part of the passive partner involves being ready to say "no" until he or she is ready to proceed. Readiness is a combination of physical relaxation, usually helped along by plenty of leisurely anal touching, and desire.

Occasionally the anal muscles are relaxes, but the passive partner is still not in the mood. Stimulation should mount only in proportion to the degree of receptivity.

3. Anal sex can be enjoyed even if it has been consistently uncomfortable in the past.

Sufficient desire alone does not necessarily guarantee pleasurable anal sex. Nor is an uncomfortable previous experience always the reason for a lack of interest in or desire for anal sex.

Chronic anal tension is the most common cause of anal discomfort during sex. Hemorrhoids and constipation are usually a sign of this condition. Tension can be relieved by touching the anus and becoming more familiar with it. An ideal time to explore the anal opening is while taking a shower or bath. Deep breathing also affects the anal muscles. Tensing the anus and the letting go in another way of learning to relax it. Anyone who enjoys masturbation might want to experiment with some form of anal stimulation, though he or she should stop if any discomfort occurs.

For many people the turning point in anal sex is when they allow a partner to massage the anus with the understanding that intercourse will not be attempted. Then the recipient of anal caresses can concentrate solely on the pleasure that this erogenous zone is capable of generating.

4. Two muscle rings called sphincters surround the anal opening. Each functions independently.

If you insert a finger about one half-inch into your anus and press your fingertip against the side, you can clearly feel the two sphincter muscles. There is less than a quarter-inch between them. The external sphincter is controlled by the central nervous system - just like the muscles of the hand, for example. You can readily tense and relax this sphincter whenever you want.

The internal sphincter is quite different. This muscle is controlled by the involuntary or autonomic part of the nervous system, which governs such functions as heartbeat and stress response.

The internal sphincter reflects and responds to fear and anxiety during anal sex. It will cause the anus to tense up automatically even if the passive partner is trying to relax. Thus, precautions about safety and comfort are essential here.

Even if a person does feel comfortable during anal sex, he or she may still need to learn voluntary control over his or her internal sphincter in order to relax it at will. Doing so requires regularly inserting a finger, perhaps in the shower each day, and feeling the internal sphincter. The muscle changes spontaneously and in response to behavior. In this instance, simply paying attention is more important than trying to relax. Anyone can gradually learn to control the internal sphincter at will.


5. Anal stimulation provides many kinds of pleasure

The highest concentration of nerve endings is around the anal opening itself. A finger can focus on them especailly effectively. When an object or penis is inserted beyond the anal opening into the rectum, other pleasures are involved. The outer protion of the rectum, like the vagina, has several nerve endings. The inner portion responds mostly to pressure.

Some people enjoy the feelings of pressure and fullness once they understand that these sensations do not presage an impending bowel movement. Rectal pressure is especially important to enthusiasts of "fisting," a form of anal sex in which several fingers or een the entire hand and forearm are inserted into the rectum and sometimes into the lower colon.

In men, the protate - which is just beyond the rectal wall, a few inches in, towards the front of the body - can be a source of pleasure when massaged by a finger, an object, or a penis. Also, the lower end of the penis, or "bulb," is near the anal opening opening. It is stimulated indirectly by most types of anal sex.

Anal pleasure can be psychological as well as physical. The anal taboo adds to the thrill of the forbidden. The most common anti-anal message (it's dirty!) sometimes returns as a source of raunchy, sleazy excitement. Rimming enthusiasts may enjoy the feeling that they are being disgustingly - and delightfully - perverse. Other people regard the anus as a secret, special place. Sharing it with a partner is an act of openness and giving.

6. Anal stimulation can lead to orgasm

A minority of men and women can respond orgasmically to anal sex without direct genital stimulation. Women probably do so through pelvic muscle contractions - and a small minority even though the sheer excitement of being anally penetrated. When men expereience an orgasm from anal stimulation, they tend to focus on the prostate. No doubt they are also responding to indirect stimulation of the penile bulb.

Orgasms from anal stimulation are most likely to occur when the participants become thoroughly absorbed in their sensations and fantasies. An lmost certain way to prevent such an orgasm is to be become determined to have one. Seeking an anal orgasm will create new pressures and disrupt the pleasure.

It must be remembered that most people require direct genital stimulation in order to climax. On the other hand, a few people have orgasms only with anal stimulation.

7. Diet contributes to the enjoyment of anal sex

Regular bowel movements are the major function of the anus and rectum. There must be sufficient fiber in a person's diet to make his or her feces soft, bulky and well formed. This allows a bowel movement to be produced without force or effort. Forced evacuations irritate anal tissues, causing discomfort and adding to muscular tensions. Fresh fruits, vegetables, whole grains or unprocessed bran are important sources of fiber.

8. Different rules of hygiene apply to the vagina and rectum

Since intercourse can be vaginal or rectal, many people assume the the same rules apply for the penetration of the vagina and rectum. Although both are lined with soft tissue and are capable of expanding, they are radically dissimilar.

The rectum is not straight. After the short anal canal which connects the anal opening to the rectum, the rectum tilts toward the front of the body. A few inches in, it curves back - sometimes as much as 90 degrees. Then, after a few more inches, it swoops toward the front of the body once again. A person can learn about the shape of his or her rectum by gently inserting a soft object, trying different angles and body positions and concentrating on how it feels. Make sure the object has a flared base so that if you loose your grip, it won't slip into the rectum and become irretrievable.

The rectum does not produce lubrication like the vagina but only a small amount of mucus. Therefore, rectal penetration always requires a lubricant. Chemical additives should be avoided. Water-based lubricants are latex-compatible.

The main function of the rectum is to act as a passageway for feces. But feces are not normally stored in the rectum except just prior to a bowel movement. Yet small amounts may remain in the rectum, expecially if the feces are not well formed. Anal douching before lovemaking will help some people especailly concerned with cleanliness to relax. For others the idea of dirtiness heightens the joy of the forbidden; for them, douching is anti-erotic.

9. Anal intercourse is not necessarily an act of dominance and submission.

The top-bottom imagery associated with anal intercourse is widespread. No doubt the belief that anal sex has to hurt contributes to this notion. And in fact some people are intensely excited by top-bottom fantasies about anal sex. The thought that they are submitting to such a degrading act is a terrific thrill. However, actual, not fantasized, anal pain can lead to trouble.

For others, the enjoyment of anal sex is inhibited by top-bottom imagery. The idea of surrendering control, and perhaps submitting to humiliation, causes immediate, protective tensing of the anal muscles. These individuals are more likely to relax and enjoy themselves if they can learn to regard anal sex as pleasurable rather than as an expression of power.

10. Anal sex can be perfectly safe, even beneficial.

The taboo against anal eroticism is perpetuated by the almost universal belief among physicians that anal sex is inevitably dangerous. No physical injury from anal stimulation results if both partners refuse to tolerate pain, never use force and avoid the use of drugs.

All the other risks center on sexually transmitted diseases. Each of the common STDs - gonorrhea, syphillis, herpes - can affect the anus. Intestinal parasites, bacteria or tiny bugs are usually passed along when fecal matter finds its way into someone's mouth or vagina, most likely through rimming.

AIDS has complicated the matter. The HIV virus can pass from the semen or blood of an infected person to the bloodstream of a partner through a tiny break in the rectal tissue during anal intercourse.

To avoid this risk, anal intercourse and rimming should not be practiced casually. Those who do enjoy anal intercourse should always use a condom. Rimming should always be accomplished by a latex barrier. Of course, in a monogamous realtionship with two healthy people, the risk of disease transmitted anally is reduced.

Thousands of men and women with chronic anal medical problems have restored their anal health by challenging their negative attitudes. This approach is indespensible for full erotic enjoyment of the anus.

Verrrrry long post (gotta get those 10 rules!!) my apologies!!
 
If I ever knew Dr. Jack Morin, I think I would call him my asshole buddy.

No shit!



Anal Sex Rocks!





Thanks for the post, sweethsubsarahh. And yes, I'm kissing your ass. :kiss:
 
ProofreadManx said:
If I ever knew Dr. Jack Morin, I think I would call him my asshole buddy.

No shit!

Anal Sex Rocks!

Thanks for the post, sweethsubsarahh. And yes, I'm kissing your ass. :kiss:

As usual, Manx, you make me smile!

(but let me bend over just a bit for proper kissage angle - lol) :p
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
As usual, Manx, you make me smile!

(but let me bend over just a bit for proper kissage angle - lol) :p
______

After we do that, I'd like to try another angle for proper toungeage (sp?). And for rubbage. And for fuckage.


(Damn, is it hot in here, or what?)
 
sweetsubsarah,thanks for having the patience of making that long post.It explains many things,like i did mention in my post before.I hope people will read and learn a bit more about their bodies.Kudos to you!Check out also puckerup.com,or tristan taormino site.Have a wonderful holiday season!
 
Thanks to everybody that posted here with really helpful info. Does anyone know more about what Emerald_eye mentoined about a fecal basteria getting up the urethra and causing a major bladder infection?
 
pune said:
Thanks to everybody that posted here with really helpful info. Does anyone know more about what Emerald_eye mentoined about a fecal basteria getting up the urethra and causing a major bladder infection?

Actually, that's a danger from having vaginal sex as well. My doctor calls it "honeymoon cystitis" when the gal gets a urinary tract infection from having lots of sex (all that semen tends to get in and around the area - lol)

A very good idea after sex is to go to the bathroom - go pee. Honestly. That tends to "flush out the lines," and virtually eliminates the possibility of cystitis from seminal contact.

About fecal bacteria, well, that is a bit more complicated, but proper hygiene is always a plus! Often urinary tract infections from that type are caused from the female contaminating herself. As long as you get immediate care (antibiotics, extra fluids) you can rid yourself of the infection before it becomes serious (before it goes into the bladder, for example).

I'm not a doctor, I just play one on Lit!

:D
 
Like others that have posted here, my years of experience with anal sex has been completely free of disease for both myself and my partners.

Because I never have anal sex with a woman until our relationship is established and we are both sure of our health I never use condoms. I've had both very clean and very messy experiences. Simply washing afterwards solves any hygenic risks. Peeing after, as someone else suggested, also helps if fecal matter gets into the urethra.

The most important things for pleasurable anal sex is trust and acceptance. The body and its' secretions are in no way "dirty". Those that get the most out of sex understand that.
 
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