Two Weeks Smoke Free

graceanne said:
K's quit for 90 days twice. He always starts again. Of course he won't use pills to help him quit, he doesn't want to use a 'mood altering drug'. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU CALL NICOTINE? :mad:
these pills arent nicotine or mood altering. you dont become dependant on them and they arent substituting one form of nicotine for another. thats why i decided to try them.
 
Kajira Callista said:
these pills arent nicotine or mood altering. you dont become dependant on them and they arent substituting one form of nicotine for another. thats why i decided to try them.

I know. Neither are the pills the doctor prescribed for him, but they are technically anti-depressants. I personally think he doesn't want to quit, and is making excuses.
 
graceanne said:
I know. Neither are the pills the doctor prescribed for him, but they are technically anti-depressants. I personally think he doesn't want to quit, and is making excuses.
Here is something I have learned... If he is not ready to quit...no drug or substitute will help him.
 
Kajira Callista said:
Here is something I have learned... If he is not ready to quit...no drug or substitute will help him.

Yep, that's my feeling. The last time he said he was gonna quit, I asked 'do you want to, or do you think you should'. He said 'i don't want to, but I need to'. I was like 'then do us all a favor and don't bother trying'.

I am quite willing to put up with the moodswings and the attitude and all that, but only if the end result is he's not smoking anymore. I'm done with dealing with all that, just to have him start two weeks later.

Although last time he quit I told after two weeks to buy a pack of cigarettes or find some place else to stay. He went over the line.
 
graceanne said:
Yep, that's my feeling. The last time he said he was gonna quit, I asked 'do you want to, or do you think you should'. He said 'i don't want to, but I need to'. I was like 'then do us all a favor and don't bother trying'.

I am quite willing to put up with the moodswings and the attitude and all that, but only if the end result is he's not smoking anymore. I'm done with dealing with all that, just to have him start two weeks later.

Although last time he quit I told after two weeks to buy a pack of cigarettes or find some place else to stay. He went over the line.
well then...tell him to try this stuff. no mood swings or anything here. no desire to smoke...no nervousness.
 
Kajira Callista said:
well then...tell him to try this stuff. no mood swings or anything here. no desire to smoke...no nervousness.

I'll definately tell him about it. It's worth a try.
 
Addiction to nicotine is one of the most difficult addictions to break. And it most definitely IS an addiction... A lot of people make the mistake of believing that it isn't. But long term smokers are physically addicted, mentally addicted and often emotionally addicted to their cigarettes.

And KC is absolutely correct, until the smoker desires to quit for themselves, for their own reasons, it will be nearly impossible to quite and make it stick. I offer my heartfelt prayers and energy to those who are trying to kick the habit, and sincere congratulations for those who have done so. And a rousing OORAH! for those who quit and stay quit!

You keep on keeping on, KC! And my hopes for a permanent quit for K, gracie! {{{{HUG}}}}
 
Evil_Geoff said:
Addiction to nicotine is one of the most difficult addictions to break. And it most definitely IS an addiction... A lot of people make the mistake of believing that it isn't. But long term smokers are physically addicted, mentally addicted and often emotionally addicted to their cigarettes.

And KC is absolutely correct, until the smoker desires to quit for themselves, for their own reasons, it will be nearly impossible to quite and make it stick. I offer my heartfelt prayers and energy to those who are trying to kick the habit, and sincere congratulations for those who have done so. And a rousing OORAH! for those who quit and stay quit!

You keep on keeping on, KC! And my hopes for a permanent quit for K, gracie! {{{{HUG}}}}


How 'bout hopes that he quits and I don't divorce him in the process.
 
Evil_Geoff said:
Addiction to nicotine is one of the most difficult addictions to break. And it most definitely IS an addiction... A lot of people make the mistake of believing that it isn't. But long term smokers are physically addicted, mentally addicted and often emotionally addicted to their cigarettes.

And KC is absolutely correct, until the smoker desires to quit for themselves, for their own reasons, it will be nearly impossible to quite and make it stick. I offer my heartfelt prayers and energy to those who are trying to kick the habit, and sincere congratulations for those who have done so. And a rousing OORAH! for those who quit and stay quit!

You keep on keeping on, KC! And my hopes for a permanent quit for K, gracie! {{{{HUG}}}}
I know there is the nicotine addiction and after a while, the social association, the pattern you create by smoking at certain times, etc. But, isn't there any enjoyment in smoking at some time?

If not, how do people start in the first place? The enjoyment might end at some point, and the addiction keeps them smoking, but they are enjoying the process, early on, right?
 
DVS said:
I know there is the nicotine addiction and after a while, the social association, the pattern you create by smoking at certain times, etc. But, isn't there any enjoyment in smoking at some time?

If not, how do people start in the first place? The enjoyment might end at some point, and the addiction keeps them smoking, but they are enjoying the process, early on, right?

Part of the problem, I think, is that a lot of smokers LIKE smoking. I know K does - it's one of the main reasons he can't quit. What he doesn't like is how it makes him feel - the coughing, the weezing, etc.
 
J smokes 5-7 ciggarettes a day... which makes me a bit nuts, but he's a big boy, he knows the risks, and he still does it. He actually quit for something like 7-8 years at one point, but started smoking again after his third divorce a few years ago. It amuses me that his ex-wife (#2) and kids don't know. He's so anal about hiding it... silly man.

His doctor has told him he's gotta quit, but he's in such fabulous shape that it's difficult for him to see the necessity. He's 51, still weighs what he did in high school, has the resting heart rate of a 17 year old, still climbs waterfalls, kite surfs, plays tennis a few times a week, etc. The only "low blow" his MD made that hit home was the impact it'll have on vascular health (which will eventually mess with his sex life). He doesn't have a cough (yet), and he really can go without it, because we'd have uber-busy days where he'd not smoke for 8 hours (because he won't smoke in the car, the house, or at the table when we're eating out). He smokes so little that the Dr. said patches/etc would just make him sick, so he just has to tough it out and quit.

I sat him down and told him I knew he'd not quit until he was ready, but I do take issue with it. I must admit it's damned sexy to be all tied up, look over my shoulder and see him peacefully having a smoke and cup of coffee just watching me, but it's icky to kiss him 5 seconds later. LOL And as I pointed out, I don't care how much he loves oral, it ain't gonna happen if his smoking makes that less pleasant, too. (Boy did he look like a kid who just dropped his ice cream cone when I said that... LOL)

It's a social thing for him... he really enjoys sitting down with a cup of coffee and a ciggarette; at some point he started connecting that with really relaxing. I can understand that, but I like him enough that I don't wanna wory about him getting sick [or having vascular issues LOL]. So he agreed to quit by his birthday, and I reminded him that's 7 freaking months away, and to stop being such a pussy or I swear to God I'd cut him off - submissive or no. Because he's wonderful, and because I'm right, he started cutting back the next day - which I noticed, appreciated, and thanked him for; hopefully it won't be too terribly difficult, and with enough positive reinforcement it won't be too stressful an experience.
 
Between you and me, I think a man smoking is sexy looking. Don't tell K, though. lol I don't like the smell or taste. k's been smoking about a pack a day since he was 12 years old. he's 38 now.

As much as I bitch here about his smoking, I do not bitch to him about it. I want him to quit, cause I want him to be alive fro the next 20 years. But, frankly, he's an adult and I'm not his mommy.
 
I quit smoking almost two years ago.

I was down to six cigarettes a day.
Had broken all of the "habit" ones (after a meal, with a coffee etc.)
Did all of the right things.
Went cold turkey and paid for it. I had every one of the withdrawl symptoms you have heard about and the added bonus of headaches so bad that I could not see.

My body would not let me quit like that.

I tried so many things and kept getting more and more frustrated. Finally, I ended up doing hypnosis. A lot of it. At first, every day. After a couple of weeks, every second day and then once a week... and then less often.

Thank goodness I have someone in my life who was willing and able to do this for and with me. He committed to me to help me with this no matter how many times I called or at what times.

We figured out that I had different kinds of cravings. One was for the action of having the cigarette... another was for some chemical in the cigarette... not necessarily the nicotine (it took us a few sessions to figure that one out. We ended up working on it as a general "whatever chemical it is that is causing the withdrawl symptom" way).

The cravings get further and further apart but I still have days when I think "C'mon, someone offer me a cigarette, I'll smoke it". When I say that (or things like it) some people say, "No, you don't want one." I tell them that yes, I do .. very much so... but that does not mean that I will have one.

To anybody with someone who is going through the process of quitting there are a few things to keep in mind.

The tobacco is probably not the problem... it is all of the chemicals that are put in the cigarettes. Breaking the addiction to those chemicals is all the harder when you don't know what you're addicted to.

The average smoker quits 8 times before it is for good.

No matter how badly someone wants to quit... sometimes, it feels impossible. Knowing that the gentleman helping me would have been disappointed for me not in me, did pull me through a couple of really rough times... and he did not put me through any guilt or any negative feelings for all of the times that I tried and did not succeed. He knew I already felt bad enough in myself.

I hope that this helps someone in some small way.
 
I've been hearing a lot of great things about Chantix. I've been trying to convince Marquis to give it a shot to quit smoking but he's not in the mindset to quit yet but hopefully he'll get to that point before the lung cancer kicks in.
 
At 9:30 this evening it will be officially 4 whole weeks. According to WD I am one third of the way there!
 
Kajira Callista said:
At 9:30 this evening it will be officially 4 whole weeks. According to WD I am one third of the way there!
Congratulations! The physical habit/need is gone - well gone - and all that's left is the psychological/mental habit - smoking when stressed, angry, etc. - and I'm sure you can handle that, too.
 
Sir_Winston54 said:
Congratulations! The physical habit/need is gone - well gone - and all that's left is the psychological/mental habit - smoking when stressed, angry, etc. - and I'm sure you can handle that, too.
Pretzels
 
DVS said:
I know there is the nicotine addiction and after a while, the social association, the pattern you create by smoking at certain times, etc. But, isn't there any enjoyment in smoking at some time?

If not, how do people start in the first place? The enjoyment might end at some point, and the addiction keeps them smoking, but they are enjoying the process, early on, right?


I think there is a lot of enjoyment one does gain from smoking, and that is especially so in the beginning. I started as a teenager and thought it made me cool and grown-up. This distorted image lingered throughout my smoking years, even when I was wise enough to know how disgusting and unhealthy the habit was there was still this misconception of exactly how uncool I was.

It is such a hard addiction to break, and I really don't think I would have been able to break it if it wasn't for the fact that I changed my entire life, and that to have my Joe, I had to give up the smokes.

Congrats on your first month as a non-smoker KC. I really admire you. :nana:
 
Kajira Callista said:
At 9:30 this evening it will be officially 4 whole weeks. According to WD I am one third of the way there!

OUTSTANDING!

Well done!


:rose:
 
I lost my father on thursday. I DID NOT smoke a cig...as many times as I really wanted to I knew that I could just not do that because he was really cheering me on.

Almost 5 weeks now. Thank you all for the encouragment.
 
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