Trump's Red Wave

[BotanyBoy]

Cruz barely held onto Red Red Texas.

And how much did they spend on Beto???

 

[HisArpy]

What does the Electoral Map have to do with Mid-term elections????

Cruz barely held onto Red Red Texas. They booted D Senators in very red States by SLIM margins, lost Nevada, might not get FL, and will lose AZ. The seats they picked up were D held in states Trump won in by huge margins--and only barely. Hardly a red wave.

In fact, the Senate races were heavily tilted in the R direction this go around. As I said, they eked out wins in super Trump states; not very encouraging. They barely defended what they had while Dems flipped a hell of lot and made big inroads into R territory.

When you factor in the House races, Obama won over Trump.

Lol. You keep telling yourself that about how Ds won. It's sheer fantasy. They won by sticking to the #1 issue voters cared about: healthcare. They ran on local issues, stayed with a positive message, and had a ton of new and exciting candidates.

Name one D candidate who ran on hate-mongering. Waiting . . .

The electoral map has a LOT to do with every election. The map depicts the tide of the voters and whether it's trending blue or red.

It's hard to defend a red seat in a state that's trending blue. When most of the red seats you're defending are in blue trending states, that tends to make the labors of even Sisyphus seem easy.

But you don't know that because maps iz hard. It's much easier to spew the rhetoric you're told rather than think for yourself or cross-check information.

The D's won because they threw bodies and money at the wall. Just like every other hoard of barbarians in history that overran the defensive line. Time will tell us if they stop before sacking the town or not. I'm betting not.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Your fantasies aren't voter suppression.

It's not any easier for white people to vote in any of those districts, the notion is fucking absurd. Losing democracy =/= racism.

It's all very well documented.

And the Pubs by now must know as well as anybody that voter fraud is a non-problem, after all those Pub-led investigations and commissions failed to turn up anything -- so why do the Pubs, and only the Pubs, put these laws in place when they have the chance?!

 

[HisArpy]

It's all very well documented.

And the Pubs by now must know as well as anybody that voter fraud is a non-problem, after all those Pub-led investigations and commissions failed to turn up anything -- so why do the Pubs, and only the Pubs, put these laws in place when they have the chance?!

Lol. The VERY FIRST SENTENCE of your cite:

Some laws and administrative practices have made it more difficult for people to register to vote

Note that it doesn't say "impossible". It says "made it more difficult".

If you want to vote, then you need to get off your ass. If you can't be bothered, then why should everyone else care about you're lack of motivation and help you?

The rest of the article is the same. Not "impossible" or even "they actually suppressed votes" only that the laws make it difficult to exercise your Right to vote.

Did you know that the SCOTUS has said that the exercising of Constitutional Rights doesn't have to be "easy"? Of course you do, you're a lawyer who presumably took ConLaw in school and passed the bar exam. Yet, for some reason you drop that VERY IMPORTANT BIT out of your narrative.

One wonders why. Unless it's because you need to hide that facet in order to push your political agenda on those who are too stupid and lazy to get off their asses and vote.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's all very well documented.

And the Pubs by now must know as well as anybody that voter fraud is a non-problem, after all those Pub-led investigations and commissions failed to turn up anything -- so why do the Pubs, and only the Pubs, put these laws in place when they have the chance?!

I know other (D)'s out there think it's voter suppression.


If it were though you'd be able to tell me how it's any harder for my black, upper middle class neighbor and I to vote than it is for the white boy across the street. But you can't because it's not. We all have the exact same voting options.

How is it harder for your minority neighbors to vote than you?

It's not, the idea that it is comes from racialized lefties creating a fantasy world filled with racists because they are DESPERATE for racism. That fantasy is fucking insane. It's not any harder for your neighbors of color to vote than it is for you...they are subject to the exact same laws you are. Welcome to not the 50's anymore.....

 

[Kirkrapine]

Note that it doesn't say "impossible". It says "made it more difficult.

That doesn't mean it doesn't matter. When you're dealing with numbers as vast as the votes cast in an election, discouragement can be enough to change the outcome.

I still see nobody offering an answer to this question: The Pubs by now must know as well as anybody that voter fraud is a non-problem, after all those Pub-led investigations and commissions failed to turn up anything -- so why do the Pubs, and only the Pubs, put these laws in place when they have the chance?!

 

[BotanyBoy]

That doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

Doesn't make it suppression either.

Much less the race based variety the (D)erps purport.

I still see nobody offering an answer to this question: The Pubs by now must know as well as anybody that voter fraud is a non-problem, after all those Pub-led investigations and commissions failed to turn up anything -- so why do the Pubs, and only the Pubs, put these laws in place when they have the chance?!

Because it's a bullshit question predicated upon lefty fantasies.

 

[HisArpy]

That doesn't mean it doesn't matter. When you're dealing with numbers as vast as the votes cast in an election, discouragement can be enough to change the outcome.

I still see nobody offering an answer to this question: The Pubs by now must know as well as anybody that voter fraud is a non-problem, after all those Pub-led investigations and commissions failed to turn up anything -- so why do the Pubs, and only the Pubs, put these laws in place when they have the chance?!

So, it's not really suppression like you claimed it is. It just a talking point stuck onto a fake headline. Typical Lefty crap.

Discouragement is NOT "suppression". If you don't want to get off your ass and go vote because "it's too much hassle" or someone said you needn't bother, then sit down and STFU.

Voter fraud is a non-problem? There you go with your false narrative again. You do realize that some people actually gather real news instead of just drinking the Lefty kool aid, don't you?

Heritage.org election fraud list

Ft Worth Texas voter fraud ring

9 arrested in Edinburg Texas voter fraud scheme

4 arrested in Starr County Texas for voter fraud

1500 non-citizens registered to vote in California

23,000 Californians vote eligibility botched


There are other stories out there, so YES, there is MASSIVE voter fraud going on. The Lefties just don't want to tell anyone about it.

 

[ryan8558]

I think part of the problem here is that mail-in ballots are sent to people that don't request them. I received one and it was not requested. Can only assume they look at people's ages and decide they need a mail-in ballot so they don't need to get their old bones out to vote.

The mail-in ballot had a short trip through my shredder.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

You are freakin clueless.

The Electoral College only votes in Presidential elections. It has squat to do with the Midterms, which are decided purely by popular vote.

Yeah but they were defending seats in states trending RED like TX and MO. The Dens were the ones this go around defending their seats in red or trending red states. Two years frim now you can throw a pity party when repubs are defending in bluer states.

No they won by sticking to healthcare and running superior candidates.

But apparently you dont consider nat'l security experts, ex CIA, decorated Vets, lawyers, educators, and successful entrepreneurs as "good" candidates. You prefer indicted crooks like Duncan Hunter and dead pimps.

The electoral map has a LOT to do with every election. The map depicts the tide of the voters and whether it's trending blue or red.

It's hard to defend a red seat in a state that's trending blue. When most of the red seats you're defending are in blue trending states, that tends to make the labors of even Sisyphus seem easy.

But you don't know that because maps iz hard. It's much easier to spew the rhetoric you're told rather than think for yourself or cross-check information.

The D's won because they threw bodies and money at the wall. Just like every other hoard of barbarians in history that overran the defensive line. Time will tell us if they stop before sacking the town or not. I'm betting not.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Discouragement is NOT "suppression".

Never mind that. You admit the discouragement exists -- and what is the point of it, if not to change the outcome of elections?

 

[Kirkrapine]

I think part of the problem here is that mail-in ballots are sent to people that don't request them. I received one and it was not requested. Can only assume they look at people's ages and decide they need a mail-in ballot so they don't need to get their old bones out to vote.

The mail-in ballot had a short trip through my shredder.

How is that part of any problem?

 

[von_Bismarck]

The electoral college is completely irrelevant in a midterm election. Any information one wants about demographic and partisan lean and trends can be had at a finer grain by looking district by district, or county by county in the case of a Senate race. In any case, it was the Democrats who faced the uphill battle in the Senate this cycle. Any suggestion otherwise is completely laughable and intellectually disingenuous.

 

[KeithD]

HisArpy = Swamp creature and one who is owned by the swampiest of creatures who is owned by the Russians.

 

[nowisthetime]

You mean Drumpf's redNECKs waving their flags?

 

[Que]

I think part of the problem here is that mail-in ballots are sent to people that don't request them. I received one and it was not requested. Can only assume they look at people's ages and decide they need a mail-in ballot so they don't need to get their old bones out to vote.

The mail-in ballot had a short trip through my shredder.

They know that statistically Democrats are more likely to both send the ballot in and vote in person. So it's an idea to get Democrats to honor their Heritage by voting early and often.

 

[nowisthetime]

Oh, one just hopped on to the thread....

 

[Que]

And how much did they spend on Beto???

Pretty interesting race was subject to a lot of interpretations. It seems like the Dems can poor huge amounts of money into no real effect. Look at how much Hillary spent she outspent Trump almost 2 to 1.

One of the things people have been noting is that cruises League shrunk when Trump began campaigning for him. The question is is it the reverse of the Trump effect or was that bombardment of advertising by the Democrats effective? It's really hard to disentangle various causations.

In Florida in Arizona they're just going to try to steal it rather than spend the money. It's interesting that they didn't bother to spend nearly as much money in Arizona and Florida which were more likely pickups because they knew that they had the structure in place to simply steal it.

It's gotten to be where they aren't even subtle about trying to steal elections. I think they really do want to bring on the next civil war.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Pretty interesting race was subject to a lot of interpretations. It seems like the Dems can poor huge amounts of money into no real effect. Look at how much Hillary spent she outspent Trump almost 2 to 1.

I bet if the (R)'s blew a gazzillion bucks they would be in the same boat.

I don't think it's the money anymore because in the information age you don't need money to get info out anymore.

One of the things people have been noting is that cruises League shrunk when Trump began campaigning for him. The question is is it the reverse of the Trump effect or was that bombardment of advertising by the Democrats effective? It's really hard to disentangle various causations.

I think that's because they are all there.

The question is which party figures it out first?

If (R)'s really wanted to win and cut the (D)'s heads off?

They would do a public HC system, STFU about abortion and legalize pot.

(D) would = DUNN for decades and all things the vast majority of their voters support.

It's gotten to be where they aren't even subtle about trying to steal elections. I think they really do want to bring on the next civil war.

Or their racism or their Marxist leanings.

I don't think anymore than the right.

I think people are just waking up to the political divide in the US.

There are racialized Marxist on the left, and liberals-Bring back the 50's~!! on the right.

If we don't figure out how to accommodate these groups of people or lead them in a civil manner to a live and let live type center? Then the war is unavoidable.

Start working out folks!! Gonna be a hell of a ride!!!

 

[Kirkrapine]

They know that statistically Democrats are more likely to both send the ballot in and vote in person. So it's an idea to get Democrats to honor their Heritage by voting early and often.

Well, nobody's actually voting twice.

 

[Kirkrapine]

In Florida in Arizona they're just going to try to steal it rather than spend the money.

Steal what? There's nothing dishonest about a recount, and there is often something dishonest about stopping a recount, like the SCOTUS did in 2000.

 

[Kirkrapine]

I think people are just waking up to the political divide in the US.

There are racialized Marxist on the left, and liberals-Bring back the 50's~!! on the right.

There are actually very few American Marxists, those who exist have practically no influence, and most people understand bringing back the '50s is impossible.

 

[Kirkrapine]

I think they really do want to bring on the next civil war.

Then why is it the only people threatening one are the Trumpers?

 

[BotanyBoy]

There are actually very few American Marxists,

Your posting of the DNC platform proved otherwise.

There is no other way to get the equity/"social justice" along the racial/social/gender lines they are pursuing. Racist and sexist government authority used to oppress the oppressor groups (white males) in the name of equity is the ONLY tool and justification you guys have.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Your posting of the DNC platform proved otherwise.

A general redistributionism does not equate to Marxism.