Top-opolis

[JarringJoe]

Go right ahead, Roscoe....

Actually, it's not a bad idea that you confine yourself to fucking dolls, for that means there is that much more pussy for the rest of us to enjoy. If you'd care to post your address book on this site, I am sure that you would have plenty of guys ready to give the gals some real live cock while you are hunching and grunting away with a doll. Seriously, to each his own, and if you are satisfied with a dollar, I shan't complain. Power to you, bud, power to you.

 

[Netzach]

Dolls don't flinch when you hit them. Crap.

The thought has occured to me, at times.

 

[Netzach]

Not so much cause I'd get off fucking one physically but just think:

I'd really like to talk about our relationship.

silence.


You know, you process things so differently from me.

Silence.

You, me a picket fence on the park, it doesn't sound so good to me. I just want to fuck you and throw you to the curb and have you crawl back next week. Don't say anything, just listen to this idea:

silence.


This would never be replicated with an actual girl.

 

[Pure]

Sounds like a re-run of an old argument I've had with others:
I say you can't 'dominate' or 'sadistically use' or 'exploit' or 'demean', etc. where there is no resistance, of where compliance is pre-agreed.

It follows you can't do these things with 'dolls' or 'compliant robots' 'specially designed sex service clones'.

Approaches with these entities are not unlike a case where someone says, "I like to hunt." and --to satisfy that need, he says--keeps a bunch of deer in a pen in the backyard, and underfeeds them so they'll hold still while being shot.

I'm reminded of RR's story of stalking the PR babe. Would it have worked if, just after seeing him follow her, she approached him and said, "Hey, guy, wanna party at my place? That will be $60." Somewhat diminishes the chase?

There are other possibilities, suitably 'sick.' How about where the sex starved gnome has access to a woman who in normal circumstances would tell him to fuck off, but is psychologically coerced --by her keeper--into cooperation? Of course one wants a few hints is her disgust at the whole process of her degradation, perhaps the fleeting look of contempt in her eyes.

J.

 

[evesdream]

The gift idea stuck in my throat on the way down too. With the implication that there should be something to be grateful for on one, all or both ends. It's a condescending idea.

I think that on most all sides of Top and Bottom D/s experiences are people who seek approval in some form or another but who do not wish to be condescended toward. Or maybe that's just me.

Yet, there is also a predjudice against the word in these quarters, certainly by myself- which I suspect comes from more of a twice- removed scene level of interacting than on that level of a relationship between human beings that most of us need to deal in in the long term in order to be the happy satisfied integrated people we are today. On a superficial scene level Dominance and submission as a gift might be 'nothing more than' a massive head game, but on that same scene level so can rejecting the concept out right; the gratitude as something that stimies the steaminess of the situation. From this side, to be strong armed, hairpulled into the deed I wanted and then to look up into the worshipful adoring exceedingly grateful eyes of my Top. Oh please Sir, anything but. But this is old news.

Rather than naming it "gift" maybe gratitude and/or not-taken-for-granted is something that makes more sense when it takes place on an unspoken level.

Full out colonic does sound trippy and great in a fresh clean way. I don't know much about enema play but would consider giving myself one for experimental reasons, that it would be an excellent way to knock me down (so to speak) and that there's a whole world of crazy medical paraphernalia out there.

 

[evesdream]

"hunching and grunting away with a doll"

Whenever Real Doll comes up at feminist and sexpositive forums the world is all up in arms. Really it's just a dildo with a face. So crass so true

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Re: "hunching and grunting away with a doll"

Whenever Real Doll comes up at feminist and sexpositive forums the world is all up in arms. Really it's just a dildo with a face. So crass so true

Well, sometimes that's what some people want their lovers to be, isn't it? A sex toy with a face, but no identity.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Tops and Doms, my findings are that there are very few of 'em. Why would that be so?

#1 it takes energy to do what those guys do. They have to pay attention to themselves, to you, then have a creative thought about you and your relationship with them, and about your physical being and your emotional state, then take action.

#2 a person has to have some level of confidence in his/her creativity. That person also has to find enough pleasure doing something besides just the old in-and-out to want to spend/waste time on the something else.

#3 it's a gift. I mean it's a gift that they are giving. Are there that many people out there ready to give, and ready to receive what's given in return?
*********

1) You're goddamned right! And it is mental energy more than anything else. While subs have their relaxing subspace, us Doms have to get into a space of total awareness. Subs slip down into subspace like it is a trance or dream state(at least my sub does); 'Domspace' is like being on meth, and is a drain sometimes.

2) Again, goddamned right! Utter confidence, not only in myself, but in my ability to create new and increasingly more deviant ways to play with my sub.

3) Like several others, I don't like the word gift, exactly. But, it is sort of a givingness....

 

[evesdream]

Re: Re: "hunching and grunting away with a doll"

Well, sometimes that's what some people want their lovers to be, isn't it? A sex toy with a face, but no identity.

more interesting is why it has to be in the shape of a woman

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Re: Re: Re: "hunching and grunting away with a doll"

more interesting is why it has to be in the shape of a woman

Well, the womanly shape is attractive...at least to some of us...

 

[rosco rathbone]

I dunno. I am a lazy top. I have ideas but don't follow through. Really, I just like hitting and being sucked off. Maybe I ought to put more effort into the whole thing, I might get more butt.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Real women are totally fucking overrated. I jack every day and that seems to hold me; why not use a better fantasy-surrogate? I have a strong enough imagination to picture the doll flinching. I'm not saying I'd never want to fuck a real woman again; but this is reality.-the reality of lame sex life and daily jacks.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I always think of MTF transexuals as being probably really conservative in that annoying, olden days "not till you put a ring on my finger" kind of way. Wearing brooches and button-up-neck dresses with lace. Why is that? THere must be plenty of transsexual sluts. After all, what is the point? I just for some reason picture them as turning all Doris Day once they get a girl hole, holding out for true love blah blah.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The Thesaurus Of Sperm

to be updated as needed. All terms invented by me:


baby butter
the spores of love
deadly venom
vile elixir
gonad gravy
curds & whey
mayonaise (pronounced "MAN-aze")
wombwash
organisms (as in, "I had an organism in her mouth")
gamete goulash
paste
mucilage ("made from the mucus of little children")
balderdash
slime
essence ("the ejaculatory pseudopod pulsed with the transmission of essence unimaginable")
spermacetti (The valuable contents of the sperm-whale head-case; for which the great fish was hunted nearly to extinction in the nineteenth century-named originally for its resemblance to human seed. I am reclaiming the term from the cetaecean world.)
substance J-7 (or any pseudo-scientific sounding designator code)
strong medicine
snake-oil
remedy (A Snakeoil Salesman came to town/ His Remedies the girls choked down/ And now it seems he can't be found/ The authorities he doth confound)
primodial ooze (Just one thimbleful of this primordial oose packs a powerful procreative punch)
the bitterest pill
radioactive isotope spermium 235 (This is some dangerous stuff. Halflife in the woomb ten to the sixth power of years. Refined from rosconium-a rare earth found only in my cock and balls.)
rosconium (Bauxite and sugarcane, corn, wheat and alfalfa, sorghum and molasses, rare earths and manufactured goods, spunk, slime, jizzom and deadly essence--these are the principal exports of my cock & balls)
submission serum
rape seed oil
piping hot soup She took ahold of my joint with the same elbow-akimbo, overhand grip employed by Oliver Twist upon his porridge-ladel in the film of the same name; and commenced to greedily glurging lashings of piping hot soup.
Rathbon-i-Os They're noodle sperms! Kids love 'em cause they wriggle on the way down to your tummy-Moms love 'em cause they're packed with DNA!

 

[evesdream]

....There are other possibilities, suitably 'sick.' How about where the sex starved gnome has access to a woman who in normal circumstances would tell him to fuck off, but is psychologically coerced --by her keeper--into cooperation? Of course one wants a few hints is her disgust at the whole process of her degradation, perhaps the fleeting look of contempt in her eyes.

J.

I'd written a scenario about this Jan, but I think I'm going to send it to the "needs improvement thread". Author's forum?

 

[evesdream]

Real women are totally fucking overrated. I jack every day and that seems to hold me; why not use a better fantasy-surrogate? I have a strong enough imagination to picture the doll flinching. I'm not saying I'd never want to fuck a real woman again; but this is reality.-the reality of lame sex life and daily jacks.

This is sad. Are U cursed?

 

[Pure]

RR

//Real women are totally fucking overrated. I jack every day and that seems to hold me; //

Eve's ream:

This is sad

Well, a similar conclusion is reached by a great many women.

Further most polls of activity show that jack/jill is the most frequent *and* most intensely orgasmic activity.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Well, I for one need a real woman...dols don't cry, scream, squirm, or beg me for more humiliation.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Reading this, I popt a major boner.

 

[rosco rathbone]

From same site:

"Observing silence, the slave is given the freedom to be completely absorbed in slave-space. She is likely to be keenly aware of her movements. she may concentrate with more precision on her mannerisms, the way she walks, the way she holds herself, the way she settles herself to her knees, the direction of her eyes. In silence, a slave learns to be unobtrusive. She does not infringe on her Master's space, His thoughts, or His plans. "

emphasis mine. I really liked the sound of this. Maybe I am a dominate master at heart.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Well, I for one need a real woman...dols don't cry, scream, squirm, or beg me for more humiliation.

You are some kind of sick sadistic freak, buddy. Taking pleasure from the pain of others.

 

[evesdream]

Pure said:
Well, a similar conclusion is reached by a great many women.

Further most polls of activity show that jack/jill is the most frequent *and* most intensely orgasmic activity.


Believe me, I know, I *know*

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

You are some kind of sick sadistic freak, buddy. Taking pleasure from the pain of others.

From you, that is a compliment...thanks!

 

[rosco rathbone]

From you, that is a compliment...thanks!

*winks an eye and points a finger*

 

[rosco rathbone]

Eenteresting. The bionic single menopausal dom thread and my thread are parallel in view count. Does this bespeak some great synchronicity or alignment of the bdsm spheres?