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Pure said:
1) When you don't know someone be polite; do not use insulting terms.

Notes: Among friends, seeming abusive labels become teasing or fun, as when I label Roscoe a sadistic pervert, to his face.
Surely you have seen this.

2) "Members" of any group may insult each other as they wish, whether seriously or in fun.

Note: The folks here often call each other pervs. Yes we whites can call each other whatever we please: I notice a woman over on 'general' whose screenname is "crackerslut". She and her friends can use this to their hearts content. And if you and I were friends, yes, we could call each other rednecks, whitetrash or whatever. And Italians can call each other 'wops', and so on.

These rules are so simple and so widely known it's really hard to believe you don't know them. Or that being ignorant of them, you would attempt to give Cuckolded or brnsuga a hard time for their following and espousing these rules.

So there, big honky.

Sincerely

pure honky. [/B]


I actually agree with Rule 1. I do disagree with Rule 2, especially in a public forum such as this. To me, that just keeps it going. And you can not seriously say CBM was joking when he used the "N" word on ebonyfire.

I would love to see you explain this to a little child who is just learning to speak. He/she sees you calling some people the "N" word and others not. And then when he/she uses the "N" word they get admonished and is very confused. And then you have the joy of explaining the concept of racism to him/her and how you are in fact not furthering that concept by using the "N" word. Good luck.

I don't believe for a second these are the widely known "rules" and that everyone accepts them. If they are, then please people, chime in and tell me you all live by these rules. My friends and I do not use racial slurs. If someone called me a redneck, I'd be a tad pissed off, same goes for white trash.

I'm sorry you think I'm feigning all this, I'm not. I never have. The bullshit in the past with brnsuga, is just that to me, bullshit. The more people twist my words the more I'll say they are full of shit. brnsuga needs to get over this welfare thing. I've already stated my opinion on that before. If needed, I can dig up the link.

And thanks for the label. Please, by all means, keep the racial slurs going. :rolleyes:

PBW

Edit to add:

brnsuga's first attempt to twist my words.
 
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PBW said,


I would love to see you explain this to a little child who is just learning to speak. He/she sees you calling some people the "N" word and others not. And then when he/she uses the "N" word they get admonished and is very confused.


I'm not sure I agree with your assumption that adults talking at lit. are to follow rules explainable to 3 year olds.

I'd ask you, how do you explain to this kid, when he hears you call your friend "asshole" or "idiot" or "twit". Are you saying you've never done this in fun, or even heard of it???

I think you must be putting us on, with all this pretend obtuseness.

So there, fuck face! ;-)

Best,

Pure, PW'd Imperialist Running Dog.
 
WriterDom said:
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admit your homosexuality CockHold, it will set you free

Oy, Thumbo. Even though the "Dom Lounge" got rejected 10-0 by City Council in its bid for a liquor license ; even though Topopolis Central continued its unrivalled high school football dominance over the hapless Domsburg Valley with a 28-0 Homecoming Massacre, the 38th shutout in as many years; even though your lame-ass town's only cultural export, L'Academie du bdsemme is finally closing its doors once and for all in belated acknowldgement of its total irrelevance....there's no reason to give up hope and come sloping around here muttering weak aspersions in the town bluesman's ear, like some broken-down, bitter old baldie out of a Jethro Tull song. Catch the midnight bus back to your own town and get the old ladies together for a flogging bee, or a seminar on Organizing Your Toys. Maybe hold a "poetry" reading. You'll soon feel better.



*busts off a flashy bit of Chinese Shadow Boxing*

=l;{)
 
P. B. Walker said:
Good to know. Guess you can't have your Lit without a healthy dose of hate speech.

PBW

*giggles*

I must say, PBW, you are on a site where calling someone a "fucktard", "Perv", "cunt", "Fag", etc is acceptable practice.
So, the use of the word "Nigger" from one black man to another is hardly hate speech and carries only as much threat as someone will allow anonymous people to be a threat, IMHO.

As for Pure's "rules", a hearty "Yes" to number one. The Golden Rule and all that. As for it being acceptable for people in a group to "insult" one another...Hmmmm. I am scratching my head. That statement seems to lack a certain tact or enlightenment. I doubt that two black friends who call one another "Nigger" are insulting one another. "Nigger" is an insult from me to CBM, but is it really an insult from brnsgr to CBM?

I don't think so. Correct me if I am wrong, but no matter what "group" I am in, I do not expect to be insulted. However, if my friend calls me a "bitch" and punctuates it with a giggle, I am not offended, insulted or anything else.

As for the remarks about explaining to a three year old...we are always explaining adult comments that are overheard to our children. Certainly, my demeanor on this board is not the same as my demeanor with my children.
 
Ineradicable propensities *

There's a link or similarity between a perversion and an addiction.
In a sense, you don't ever get rid of it.

It's beyond choice, hence the irrelevance simple deliberate counter choices, like "I won't do this any more.

It was one of the key insights of AA is that one cannot 'win' through pitting the will against the impulse or craving. It simply does not work. Indeed, it arguably sets the stage for failure since the impulse, as such, is implacable.

On the 'perversion' end, consider the gay person who marries and tries to be straight. What is the usual result, 99% of the time? it doesn't work, he or she, the 'gay' starts getting a little action on the side, if indeed the marriage survives. S/M is likewise a perversion, which is why I post this here.

The same is true of fetishes, and so on. I leave one aside for a bit, but it's always there. The strange, ineluctable draw to the enforced humiliative delight in my mistress' cream pie. (Cf. 'you're always an alcoholic').

So is there a solution? Well, a perv is always a perv; an alcoholic always an alcoholic, it's said.

But there may be a lifesaving commitment and practice. The AA conceive of a strength not one's own that is drawn upon.

Clearly the only 'solution' has to be NON will based.
For the perv [added: some form of the practice is going to remain, but] it's not doing the really crazy things that endanger life or health or make one liable to arrest. For the addict [added: no from of the actual substance ingestion will remain, but the mental vulnerability continues, and so] it's the life 'on the wagon' if s/he has the wherewithal-- not really 'will' but more like character and quiet determination to stay on this planet and stay well. It's a calmer, more enduring 'strength' than 'strength of will', and it's more in the manner of the Tao, than "I am the master of my fate." One conceives of the strength of 'higher self' or 'Higher Power.'

*Thoughts on hearing of RR's visit to an AA meeting.

These are very complex thoughts and go to essential issues like
"Are we in charge of our lives?" "Is personal will that which shapes a life? "Can one change one's 'character'?

I'd like to hear other comments on these issues.

"pure"
J.
 
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Hi Miss T,

in your comments


As for it being acceptable for people in a group to "insult" one another...Hmmmm. [...]

Correct me if I am wrong, but no matter what "group" I am in, I do not expect to be insulted.



This is not quite what I said, but since PBW likewise misunderstood, may I'll try again.

People within a group may--that is, it may happen-- insult one another, have fights, be sarcastic, "put down" whether seriously or in fun, 'razz' and or 'yank the chain' of one another. I'm not commenting on whether that should occur, or its propriety; maybe you shouldn't 'yank the chain' of grandma, or call mama a slut cuz she's getting in late from a date.

But, whichever thing is occurring, it's generally acceptable for adult group members amongst themselves to use outsiders' derogatory labels. (To be more exact, it may well be unacceptable and an insult, if a cracker like me calls my virtuous sister a lewd whore; but calling her a cracker slut doesn't add to the unacceptability of it.)

And any such terms may be freely applied to oneself, at any time, whether seriously or in fun. I've never heard the N word used so often as by a certain Black comedian. My Jewish friend's email address is yid@xxxx.com.

And you Miss T are one hot pervy cracker slut.

:rose: :rose:

Sincerely

Pure jive ass mother fucker.
 
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I got into a six-year relationship thinking that I could make do without forcible, pervy sex and it didn't work. My psycho, the rapist, had assured me that my dark desires would pass as my anger at women waned. It was the only bad mistake he ever made (he is a very good psycho, the rapist). In fact, the more comfortable I got with my own existence, the more I realized that I obtain sexual and romantic pleasure, jwee cents if you will Pure, in situations of psychosexual inequality.

I , rosco, am one week clean from drugs and alcohol & loving every minute of it. Hopefully this shake up will rattle my psychosexual world into a better place.

Marquis: more details! Where, how did you meet her, describe her, what did you do to her?
 
Pure said:
Ineradicable propensities *

There's a link or similarity between a perversion and an addiction.
In a sense, you don't ever get rid of it.

It's beyond choice, hence the irrelevance simple deliberate counter choices, like "I won't do this any more.

It was one of the key insights of AA is that one cannot 'win' through pitting the will against the impulse or craving. It simply does not work. Indeed, it arguably sets the stage for failure since the impulse, as such, is implacable.

On the 'perversion' end, consider the gay person who marries and tries to be straight. What is the usual result, 99% of the time? it doesn't work, he or she, the 'gay' starts getting a little action on the side, if indeed the marriage survives. S/M is likewise a perversion, which is why I post this here.

The same is true of fetishes, and so on. I leave one aside for a bit, but it's always there. The strange, ineluctable draw to the enforced humiliative delight in my mistress' cream pie. (Cf. 'you're always an alcoholic').

So is there a solution? Well, a perv is always a perv; an alcoholic always an alcoholic, it's said.

But there may be a lifesaving commitment and practice. The AA conceive of a strength not one's own that is drawn upon.

Clearly the only 'solution' has to be NON will based.
For the perv it's not doing the really crazy things that endanger life or health or make one liable to arrest. For the addict it's the life 'on the wagon' if s/he has the wherewithal-- not really 'will' but more like character and quiet determination to stay on this planet and stay well. It's a calmer, more enduring 'strength' than 'strength of will', and it's more in the manner of the Tao, than "I am the master of my fate." One conceives of the strength of 'higher self' or 'Higher Power.'

*Thoughts on hearing of RR's visit to an AA meeting.

These are very complex thoughts and go to essential issues like
"Are we in charge of our lives?" "Is personal will that which shapes a life? "Can one change one's 'character'?

I'd like to hear other comments on these issues.

"pure"
J.

Alcohol nearly killed me. My submission to Him, however, is safe, sane, and consensual. I don't consider it a perversion. I don't care to "get rid of it." It is who i am and i have spent most of my life denying it. My years of alcoholism did nothing but leave me with feelings of self-guilt, self-hatred, and the feeling of being trapped beyond compare. In my sobriety, i feel free. In my submission, i feel free.

As to your questions. Yes. We are in charge of our lives. But i also believe in a higher power and its plan for my life. Small pushes this way or that. That can be my only explanation for some of the things that have happened in my life. Personal will cannot shape a life in and of itself. You cannot muscle your life into being. How could i be a submissive and believe that? *grin* or an alcoholic? *grin* Finally, yes, i believe one can change one's character, although it is horrible, hard work, that brings one to one's knees on numerous occasions. Humility is a hard pill to swallow. A rather large one, i might add.

An interesting topic. A thread all its own perhaps?
 
Hi AnelizeDE


Alcohol nearly killed me. My submission to Him, however, is safe, sane, and consensual.


That's an interesting point I hadn't thought of, perversion being (part of) the remedy for addiction!

I don't consider it a perversion.

Understand: Around here it's a purely descriptive term, or if more than that, complimentary .

:rose:

It signifies, simply, the preference, indeed the deep yen, to "come" by means of some eroticized (though perhaps non sexual in appearance) activities, besides (at the extreme, instead of) straightforward prick-in-pussy fucking.
 
re your PM pure (full box)

I've only been to one meeting, but I right away vibed that all sorts of hanky panky and romantic hookups go on in that place. There's just too much raw need and emotion being exposed and everyone is very open and friendly. An NYC Perv chapter of AA is a fantastic idea, but I have a feeling that it wouldn't go over that well. People would object to the overt use of AA as a meet market. But it is worth keeping in mind.
 
P. B. Walker said:
I guess that is because you have no argument. Your entire post is an attack against me and does not in any way answer the question regarding the previous post about hate speech. I believe this is because you just hate to admit that someone you admire and applaud did in fact speak such hate. That's cool. Nothing I say will help you in your self delusion. And I have no doubt you will continue with your agenda to paint me as the big evil white male. So be it. I'll not apologize to you for being white.

And yet, once again, you have proven me correct. You've taken a simple statement by me, morphed and twisted it into something that furthers your agenda. My statement was:

That means exactly what I say, which if you've even read any of my posts, I say exactly what I mean and I don't pull my punches. I don't call myself anything. I let my actions do the talking. I treat people the way I feel I should be treated until they either wrong me or attack me. If I come off as egalitarian, cool. If I come off as a big prick, so be it. But at least I'm not some poser who announces to everyone how he should be seen. I'm sure there is a fair number of people here who think I'm the biggest ass on the planet.

BTW, thank you for the definition of egalitarian. Duh. :rolleyes:

So, as for you raising points and actually having an argument, I would love to hear your argument for why CBM's hate speech is acceptable. But, I have the feeling I'll just be hearing you twisting my words more. Or maybe you'll surprise us all and actually come up with something coherent instead of attacking me.

Either way, I hope you keep enjoying your stay here at Literotica and have a nice day.

PBW

PBW:
My Debating Society awards serve as evidence that I do in fact know the difference between empirical proof and theoretical proof. Let me explain it to you. THEORETICAL proof is positing an idea and supporting it with unprovable, but linked, theories. An example of EMPIRICAL proof would be if you could list for us the posts where you did in fact tell others (who, unlike Marquis, had not confirmed that they were Black) to get off welfare. Then you could say that, even when you have no reason to think so, you accuse everyone who angers you of being on welfare. That would serve as a form of empirical proof that race was not the basis of your attempted insult .

You have tried to evoke the pity and support of other posters by claiming that you were attacked. Please re-read my original post. You will realize that I definitely did not attack you, but in fact made a concious choice to take the high road instead. You apparently do not understand the difference between the terms "refute" and "attack". For your future reference, here are two examples of what it would sound like IF I were to decide to attack you:
1)You said "paint me as the big evil white male" My response WOULD have been: Due to your avoirdupois, even Home Depot doesn't have enough paint to accomplish this task.
2)You said I would have difficulty explaining to a child the complex circumstances resulting from the effects that racism has had on my people. My response WOULD have been: Yes, I would find it difficult to make children, who by definition have limited experience and intellect, understand this complicated issue. And the perfect example of this dilemma has been my most recent exchanges with you.

Please note that these are not attacks, just examples of attacks to help you better understand the difference. Even though you are constantly leaving yourself open for such attacks, I have refrained from doing this in any of my previous discussions with you.

I love the way you continue to pretend that it is not obvious to almost everyone what you meant by the "welfare"/"lazy" comment. And based on your usage of the word, it is also obvious to almost everyone that you had NO idea what the word egalitarian meant. To say "I never tried to portray myself as egalitarian" is the SAME as saying "I never tried to portray myself as someone who thought all races were equal". And in fact, when your racism has been pointed out to you, you have repeatedly tried to portray yourself as someone who thinks that all races are equal. That has consistently been the basis for your defense.

In a previous post, referring to me, you said "...this country you hate so much". We have had this discussion before so I will not belabor the point. My ancestors spent much blood, sweat and tears to build this country, both with physical labor as well as with significant intellectual contributions. And unless your people came over on the Mayflower, my family lineage pre-dates the arrival of your ancestors on these shores. It is in fact love of country and of all civilized societies which causes me to take you to task on this issue.

Regarding your comments in a previous post about our Republican administration, please note that in their recent statement against affirmative action, even George and The Bush League acknowleged that racism is STILL a serious problem throughout this society.

Regarding your comments on how Black people may talk to other Black people: Slavery days are OVER, baby! Whether we are insulting each other or loving each other, we no longer have to seek "Mr. Charlie's" permission OR approval for the way we interact with each other.

I would now prefer to talk about more fun subjects (like sex and bondage) with Marquis and CBM and Rosco- three people who have actually HAD sex within the last decade.

-brnsuga
 
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brnsuga said:
I would now prefer to talk about more fun subjects (like sex and bondage) with Marquis and CBM and Rosco- three people who have actually HAD sex within the last decade.

I have inserted my pseudopod into an orifice quite a few times in the last decade, but with a notable lack of jwee cents. I swear from this day forth that I will not fuck any more vanilla bitches. Never again will I be involved with anyone who does not share my needs.
 
"1)You said "paint me as the big evil white male" My response WOULD have been: Due to your avoirdupois, even Home Depot doesn't have enough paint to accomplish this task"

I don't think I have laughed out loud in days.
 
Pure said:
Hi AnelizeDE


Alcohol nearly killed me. My submission to Him, however, is safe, sane, and consensual.


That's an interesting point I hadn't thought of, perversion being (part of) the remedy for addiction!



I think you slightly MISSED the point here. In your first post i felt you were trying to link alcholism and "perversion" together. While i still feel that BDSM is not perverse, i'll bow to semantics here, and go with the flow. IMHO, when BDSM is practiced in a safe, sane and consensual manner, it and alcoholism are as different as apples and eggplants. I got sober long before i finally started looking at myself as a submissive. Hence, in my life, the two are not connected.

I work my program of sobriety in AA, not at His feet. I work something else entirely there.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong Pure, but bdsm is by definition "perverse" is it not? In the technical if not moral sense.
 

Correct me if I'm wrong Pure, but bdsm is by definition "perverse" is it not? In the technical if not moral sense.


Yes,
If you strongly prefer, or have to, 'get off' and 'come' (see your Jewish aunts) otherwise than through a friendly dick-in-pussy fuck, you are a pervert.

BDSM, if more than fluff, transient titillation, or costume on the way to a good classic fuck, is by definition a perversion (i.e, one of them).
 
Pure said:

Correct me if I'm wrong Pure, but bdsm is by definition "perverse" is it not? In the technical if not moral sense.


Yes,
If you strongly prefer, or have to, 'get off' and 'come' (see your Jewish aunts) otherwise than through a friendly dick-in-pussy fuck, you are a pervert.

BDSM, if more than fluff, transient titillation, or costume on the way to a good classic fuck, is by definition a perversion (i.e, one of them).

I can bust from straight boning, but there's no pressure to it, as I've said before, and very little pleasure.

In one of the Castaneda books (big fan), the old Indian wizard tells the novice that he suffers a permanent low energy state because he is a product of cogido aburrido, or "boring sex". (I don't know if that is what the Spanish words actually mean). This somehow rang true to me when I read it.

My Jew grandfather was an only child.
 
Definitions...*yawns*

and just when the conversation was getting somewhat interesting.

Good day to you both.
 
Pure said:
PBW said,


I would love to see you explain this to a little child who is just learning to speak. He/she sees you calling some people the "N" word and others not. And then when he/she uses the "N" word they get admonished and is very confused.


I'm not sure I agree with your assumption that adults talking at lit. are to follow rules explainable to 3 year olds.

I'd ask you, how do you explain to this kid, when he hears you call your friend "asshole" or "idiot" or "twit". Are you saying you've never done this in fun, or even heard of it???

I think you must be putting us on, with all this pretend obtuseness.

So there, fuck face! ;-)

Best,

Pure, PW'd Imperialist Running Dog.

I tend to draw a distinction between words like asshole and the "N" word. The first is rude and demeaning, while the second is not only rude and demeaning but also racial.

Again, I'm sorry you think I'm joking about such a serious subject.

Have a good day.

PBW
 
Hi Anelize,
I'm glad to hear your interesting thought, from the front lines, as it were. Welcome.


IMHO, when BDSM is practiced in a safe, sane and consensual manner, it and alcoholism are as different as apples and eggplants.


Well, apples and eggplants are not without similarity; they're fruits/vegetables, they're edible, and have greenish flesh. If you had said an apple and an AK-47... that's different!

I'm not sure if I got my point across. It was a 'thought' experiment to emphasize some deep similarities between the two. BDSM, imo, is not like playing golf the way most people play it; you can switch to squash in the winter. You can move to an island and take up fishing instead.

The similarity is that these two (addictive and perverse) tendencies are 'in your blood'; you cannot, simply say,
"I'm not doing this any more," and succeed for long, without some major re-molding of character. IMHO.

As to SSC 'n' play safe 'n' foster your sub's realization.... that could get us off track; I gather you're, in part, thinking of the issue of harm. But that skews the comparison, by taking a 'best case' of one, and not the other.

There are ways of drinking fairly constantly and quite heavily that minimize harm. Like drinking only with food; like drinking only with friends, like avoiding drinking and driving; like drinking a lot of water before going to bed--indeed going to bed every night.
The same, I would argue, with BDSM practices.

Yet we know of BDSM cases leading to mental breakdown (as in
_9 1/2 weeks_, the story; or watch these boards!), leading to the man's cutting off his testicles, leading to a woman's turning over all her assets to the dom, etc.

Iow, each 'practice' be it perversion or drinking, has its dangers; each may be, to a degree, made safe ( and indeed I mentioned that in discussing the handling or 'solution' to a perversion). That's another similarity.

And in each practice, some of the folks in it fool themselves and simply say, "Yes I do it, but simply because I choose to. I can stop any time."

J.

What does 'anelize dark eyes' mean???
 
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MissTaken said:
*giggles*

I must say, PBW, you are on a site where calling someone a "fucktard", "Perv", "cunt", "Fag", etc is acceptable practice.
So, the use of the word "Nigger" from one black man to another is hardly hate speech and carries only as much threat as someone will allow anonymous people to be a threat, IMHO.

Like I mentioned to Pure, I draw a distinction between those types of words and racial slurs. I also feel that racial slurs are still racial slurs no matter who uses them. JMHO, sorry to disagree with you. Of course it would be silly for me to make assumptions that I won't see words like "fucktard", etc. But I think I should be able to make some small assumptions that I don't have to sit here reading racial slurs every other post. It's sad to see that Literotica allows, and by inference condones it since nothing is done when someone uses such racial slurs. But yes, I think I can predict the response to this, "If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out". I also find that sad.


As for Pure's "rules", a hearty "Yes" to number one. The Golden Rule and all that. As for it being acceptable for people in a group to "insult" one another...Hmmmm. I am scratching my head. That statement seems to lack a certain tact or enlightenment. I doubt that two black friends who call one another "Nigger" are insulting one another. "Nigger" is an insult from me to CBM, but is it really an insult from brnsgr to CBM?

I think we can all see that CBM did *not* use the "N" word in a friendly manner toward Ebonyfire. If anything, it was just as bad an insult as if I had used the "N" word. I also feel that this creates a double standard. It's ok for one group of people to use a word, while it's unacceptable for another group. That's BS in my opinion. That's just the way I feel.


I don't think so. Correct me if I am wrong, but no matter what "group" I am in, I do not expect to be insulted. However, if my friend calls me a "bitch" and punctuates it with a giggle, I am not offended, insulted or anything else.

Again, I see a distinction here. What is said between two friends is much different that what is said here between board members. I do not think I'm wrong when I say CBM and Ebonyfire are not friends. So this statement does not apply. And I'm pretty damn sure CBM didn't follow up his use of the "N" word with a giggle.


Certainly, my demeanor on this board is not the same as my demeanor with my children.

Again, I find that creates a double standard. JMHO.

I do not mean to argue with you MissT, I am just a bit disappointed in the policy here concerning racial slurs, as hopefully many others are.

PBW
 
Marquis said:
QUOTE]Originally posted by rosco rathbone
I thought we had established that it was called L'Academie du BDSMme, sounds more frenchified.

Tell the howtofors and the wherebys of your recent adventures, Marquis; for we salty old, pervy old mariners are sorely parched for a tale, becalmed as we are upon this sexual sargasso where the winds of Chance have abandoned our frajile bark be-doldrum'd.


LOL, ok I have something I am sure you will like. I'm not terribly good at telling stories, but this is basically what went down.

I have been hooking up with a pseudo-sub (basically a girl who gets off on getting it rough, she wouldn't even get into L'Acadamie du BDSMme) recently and I had her in my room the other night.

We had finished the evenings debaucheries and I decided to go get a glass of water. I had had her wrists tied together behind the bedpost with my belt, and I left them that way while I went downstairs.

By the time I came up however, one of the people who lives in the room next door to me had seen my door partially open, come in to say whats up to me and found a naked girl tied to my bed. Both he and my girl's mouths were agape in surprise, but I just calmly shut the door and gave my friend a little smile.

The next day at lunch was hilarious (names have been changed to protect the innocent).

Roommate 1: So {Marquis}, we here you got naked bitches tied up in your room at nights.

Me: I don't know about all that fellas...

Roommate 2: Well {Marquis}, {roommate 3} told us you did, is it true or not?

Me: Might be.

Roommate 1: So damn homie, you cant tell this bitch to put your boy down for a blowjob or something before she leaves?

Me: Ha Ha, I'll see what I can do guys.
[/QUOTE]

Marquis:
Reading of your exploits has left me sitting in a puddle. However, Rosco requested a "tale", not a sketch. I would really like to hear more, starting with "She walked into my room"...

Please give your readers more of the juicy details about the belt-around-the-bedpost sex which prompted your need for the glass of water. (We NEED to know stuff - like was the belt just mildly restraining her or was it exquisitely and painfully tight?)

In addition to my request for the titillating details, I have another question: my first inclination would have been to say (seeing it from the girl's point of view) why didn't you give her the courtesy of locking the door since she was "indisposed" at the time? But thinking about it from the dom/sub mentality, I wonder if this was an act of intentional disregard for her possible embarrassment? What kind of conversation ensued between the two of you after this incident?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Peace & Luv,
brnsuga
 
Right, just think of us as George Constanza saying "You're not in the mood?? (for details) Well, you GET in the mood!!!!"
 
brnsuga,

Thank you for pointing out the differences between theoretical and empirical. As an engineer, I have never heard of those. :rolleyes: I salute you and your awards. Do we get to hear your GPA next?

I would like for you to point out in the Literotica rules where I am required to show proof that any of my statements are not racially motivated before I make them. You do not have proof that my statement was racially motivated. That is meerly your opinion. I have responsed to your opinion in an attempt to explain why I said such a statement. You can't, or just won't, accept my explanation. In fact, you are flat out calling me a liar. It makes no sense to me that just because I have not told a non-black person from this board to get a job that I am in fact a racist. The last person I slept with was not caucasion, so by your logic, I must also hate caucasions. Please show me a post that you have made on this website where you called a non-white person a liar. Can't? Guess what. I will refrain from referring to you as a racist since I do not agree with your logic.

Your first post was not an attack, it was you twisting my words to state your opinion. I rebluffed your opinion. Your continued harping on this subject however, is indeed an attack in my eyes. And with this last post, it appears that your gloves are off. Well, whack away, psycho. As you've stated, I have left you plenty of avenues for attack.

I am sorry you feel that I am pretending. I see you can not take me at my word, as seen by your repeated harpings on this issue. I am sorry to burst your bubble, but I actually did understand the meaning of egalitarian. I did however fuck up in that I did not go back and proofread my post. If I had, I would have used a different word than portray. I will admit, I only got a 600 on my verbal SAT. It was never my strong suite. I have never denied that. I'll leave you to nit-pick that.

Thank you for affirming that you do in fact love this country. It's always good to hear that from a fellow American. We've never had this discussion before, sorry to say. I guess you don't agree with all of CBM's politics. I don't exactly know the date when my first ancestor arrived in America, but I know my mother has traced her lineage back to Henry VIII, so I figure my ancestors came over pretty early.

I agree racism is a serious problem and it's never more evident after reading the racial slurs here. That is part of the reason for my initial post regarding CBM's hate speech. I'm sorry you can't see that. Maybe you enjoy the double standard, or worse, condone it. <shrug>.

Regarding your comments on how Black people may talk to other Black people: Slavery days are OVER, baby! Whether we are insulting each other or loving each other, we no longer have to seek "Mr. Charlie's" permission OR approval for the way we interact with each other.

Cool, I thought you might go a whole post without twisting my words. Please point out where I say you need permission or approval to insult each other. Also point out where I say slavery is not over. Thank you, I await your proof. Awww... can't find where I said that? Guess what? I didn't. You seem to have a talent for taking my words and changing them into something completely opposite. But going by this last statement of yours, I see that you actually do advocate hate speech between people of the same race. I have to respectfully disagree with that philosophy. I guess that makes me a racist. :rolleyes:

So, until you again call me a liar, a racist, twist my words to your agenda, and make light of my sexuality, have a nice day.

PBW
 
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