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Nothing personal, but wouldn't the IRA problem be solved if you would just withdraw your stuck up asses from their fucking Island?
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I know, the Lion wishes to hold on to its Kingdom. But why 7 counties at the tip of an island when they are clearly not wanted. If they need more land, let them invade France.
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Unregistered folks have all the answers!
Uh oh. I didn't register.
This is MissTaken, by the way
Unregistered folks have all the answers!
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This is MissTaken, by the way
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Unregistered said:
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Nothing personal, but wouldn't your terrorist problems be solved if you would just withdraw your stuck up asses from the Middle East?
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You do realise the "nothing personal" and "stuck up asses" do not belong in the same sentence. The latter tends to negate the former, kind like a with a "fuck you".
with a "fuck you".
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Give Ireland back to the Irish
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Nothing personal, but wouldn't the IRA problem be solved if you would just withdraw your stuck up asses from their fucking Island?
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Would that we could.
We are there in support of the wishes of the majority of the people who actually live there.
It might be a little pretenscious to say that we are supporting Democracy but I think that is what it is called when it is the will of the majority of the people.
If I remember right. The six counties were set up with the right to self determination when the Island was divided. This was with the agreement with the new government in the South who then shortly afterwards went back on their words and declared it one of their aims to unite the country. They have since given up that claim.
So at the moment the only people who actually want a united Ireland are the supporters of the IRA and most only support that out of fear.
The avowed aims of the IRA are to turn the whole island into a Marxist state. That would be nice for the people living there.
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Nothing personal, but wouldn't the IRA problem be solved if you would just withdraw your stuck up asses from their fucking Island?
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Would that we could.
We are there in support of the wishes of the majority of the people who actually live there.
It might be a little pretenscious to say that we are supporting Democracy but I think that is what it is called when it is the will of the majority of the people.
If I remember right. The six counties were set up with the right to self determination when the Island was divided. This was with the agreement with the new government in the South who then shortly afterwards went back on their words and declared it one of their aims to unite the country. They have since given up that claim.
So at the moment the only people who actually want a united Ireland are the supporters of the IRA and most only support that out of fear.
The avowed aims of the IRA are to turn the whole island into a Marxist state. That would be nice for the people living there.
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the USA occupy more places than any other country. do u all realise that osama bin laden is pissed off purly because the USA has military bases on supposed "holy ground".
i think u should think carefully about what ur own country does before u have a go at England.
p.s. im australian, so im unbiased. hate the british, and i also hate the americans. (well i dont really, i just dont like the british cause they suck at cricket, and i dislike the american pop culture, but british and american ppl ive met seem nice, with cool accents)
the USA occupy more places than any other country. do u all realise that osama bin laden is pissed off purly because the USA has military bases on supposed "holy ground".
i think u should think carefully about what ur own country does before u have a go at England.
p.s. im australian, so im unbiased. hate the british, and i also hate the americans. (well i dont really, i just dont like the british cause they suck at cricket, and i dislike the american pop culture, but british and american ppl ive met seem nice, with cool accents)
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Where do I figure?
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Your quite right Nessus , Rodney is gonna coach the youngster at the ECB academy , and don't we need him after this summer's performance's against the aussie's 
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But wasn't that after they had all ready wrapped up the "Ashes" serie's
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No. Thanks for asking.
Southern Ireland is already independent - it's a Republic - whereas Northern Ireland is part of the Union with England, Scotland and Wales. The people who live there (apart from a few British soldiers in Belfast and on the Border) are Irish in that they're families have been there for hundreds of years, longer than today's Americans have been in America. Some of them are Protestants. Some of them are Catholics. They're the ones who are fighting. It's not the British versus the Irish. It's the Irish versus the Irish. If the British government turned its back on the problem it wouldn't make the problem go away. It'd make it worse. You know, the IRA aren't the only terrorist organisations operating there. There's also the Real IRA (who have carried on murdering people long after the original IRA agreed to Peace Talks - they don't actually want a solution, they just want to fight), and other Republican groups. On the other side there are Loyalist terrorist organisations like the UVF (Ulster Volunteer Force) and the UDA. If your solution was to just leave them all to get on with it, pretty soon you'd find them intensifying their murderous campaigns in Ireland, the UK and probably American cities too. The IRA and the UVF aren't romantic Braveheart figures. They're psychopaths, just like Bin Laden.
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And if we did leave with in 6 month's we'd have to go back in as part of a U.N mission "IFOR" .
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May I suggest that you in future research your subject before starting a thread about it.
We (the people of the UK) have no wish to keep armed troops in Ireland and if you'd have been looking you'd have noticed that when the ceasefire was called way back when, one of the first things to happen was the soldiers put their guns on their backs rather than walking aroun with them at the ready and later patrols were reduced to a minnimum.
The Irish can have northern Ireland back anytime they want.....so long as the majority of people in norhtern Ireland want to leave the UK and become part of a united Ireland, just as the Arggy's can have the Falkland Islands just as soon as everybody who lives there votes to leave the UK.
The IRA are terrorists just like Osama Bin Laden.
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I believe most Brits truly want peace -
First, unregistered posts plain suck. Any opinion worth posting should have a name on it!
I believe that after a millennium of exploitation, most Britis really would like to stay the hell out of Ulster, have no more troops in the North, and have done with it. Prior British policies make this problematic, including the assassinations in recent years of Republican lawyers by death squads linked to the Provincial police, the Royal Ulster Constabulary.
The trick is to get all factions to give up the war and disarm, in accordance with the democratic principles wholeheartedly embraced by the UK in the so-called "Good Friday" accords. As the UK has always maintained, simply pulling out might invite a bloodbath. But as the UK has frequently denied, its forces in Ulster have favored some of the so-called Loyalist terrorists. The present IRA was revived by a massacre in Londonderry known widely as Bloody Sunday, wherein uniformed British troops killed numerous Catholics protesing in the spirit of the recently murdered Martin Luther King. Please recall the legal frauds of IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER (and think about those cops in light of the ID card question)
The whole process will take further decades of deft dancing by all well-intentioned parties, which I hope will continue to include the UK government, the IRA/Sinn Fein, and responsible loyalist groups. The bitterness that exists in Ulster is unlikely to be diminished by anything but peace and prosperity. Some gunmen of all persuasions are war loving, flag-waving psychos, and they will not easily give up their life choices. I wish all sides that future.
So, Troll, you are wrong, just as many Brits who have historically used the potential of violence as an excuse to stay in Ulster and wreak more of it were also wrong. This issue is SO CLOSE to being solved, given the hideous history. Let us hope.
First, unregistered posts plain suck. Any opinion worth posting should have a name on it!
I believe that after a millennium of exploitation, most Britis really would like to stay the hell out of Ulster, have no more troops in the North, and have done with it. Prior British policies make this problematic, including the assassinations in recent years of Republican lawyers by death squads linked to the Provincial police, the Royal Ulster Constabulary.
The trick is to get all factions to give up the war and disarm, in accordance with the democratic principles wholeheartedly embraced by the UK in the so-called "Good Friday" accords. As the UK has always maintained, simply pulling out might invite a bloodbath. But as the UK has frequently denied, its forces in Ulster have favored some of the so-called Loyalist terrorists. The present IRA was revived by a massacre in Londonderry known widely as Bloody Sunday, wherein uniformed British troops killed numerous Catholics protesing in the spirit of the recently murdered Martin Luther King. Please recall the legal frauds of IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER (and think about those cops in light of the ID card question)
The whole process will take further decades of deft dancing by all well-intentioned parties, which I hope will continue to include the UK government, the IRA/Sinn Fein, and responsible loyalist groups. The bitterness that exists in Ulster is unlikely to be diminished by anything but peace and prosperity. Some gunmen of all persuasions are war loving, flag-waving psychos, and they will not easily give up their life choices. I wish all sides that future.
So, Troll, you are wrong, just as many Brits who have historically used the potential of violence as an excuse to stay in Ulster and wreak more of it were also wrong. This issue is SO CLOSE to being solved, given the hideous history. Let us hope.
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thugs...
...don't pledge allegiance.
As an American living in England I'm afraid I still consider myself a "guest" and I don't understand the politics of Ireland any better now than I did when I first moved here years ago. I do know it's complicated and that most people living in Northern Ireland, like the rest of us, are decent people who would like to be left alone to work, love, and live their lives without fear.
The best I can figure is that the world is full of "thugs". Football thugs (show up at games for fights), racist thugs (throw rocks through mosques), Irish thugs (toss bombs at school children), Christian thugs (assasinate abortion doctors), Islamic thugs (no comment), and so on. Thankfully, there aren't a lot of them, but those few are a real pain in the ass (or arse as you prefer).
It isn't about religion, national pride, idealism, or anything requiring higher thinking.
It's just thuggery.
...don't pledge allegiance.
As an American living in England I'm afraid I still consider myself a "guest" and I don't understand the politics of Ireland any better now than I did when I first moved here years ago. I do know it's complicated and that most people living in Northern Ireland, like the rest of us, are decent people who would like to be left alone to work, love, and live their lives without fear.
The best I can figure is that the world is full of "thugs". Football thugs (show up at games for fights), racist thugs (throw rocks through mosques), Irish thugs (toss bombs at school children), Christian thugs (assasinate abortion doctors), Islamic thugs (no comment), and so on. Thankfully, there aren't a lot of them, but those few are a real pain in the ass (or arse as you prefer).
It isn't about religion, national pride, idealism, or anything requiring higher thinking.
It's just thuggery.
