To liberals, 'free speech' means the right to indoctrinate. To conservatives, it means the right to dissent from the elites

[SugarDaddy1]

Hypocrisy is the constant in all politics, and politicians who preach principles (such as free speech) typically wield those principles instrumentally rather than adhere to them religiously.

It’s expected, then, that the American Left would object to the charge of censoriousness. Yes, many on that side have been open about disliking free speech. The ironically named American Civil Liberties Union, a venerable institution of the Left, fretted about Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter because of his expressed “free-speech absolutism.”

“Hate speech” and “misinformation” are labels constantly hurled from the Left, along with the ominous chant that conservative opinions put black people in danger. These are all efforts to curtail speech. Calling whole classes of opinion incitement or misinformation is an attempt to put those opinions and facts outside the safe harbor of free speech.

Put another way, when the Left demands free speech, it wants the government to teach children stuff that parents don’t want to be taught to their children; when the Right demands free speech, it is asking for the right to express opinions and relay facts that clash with elite teaching.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...it-means-the-right-to-dissent-from-the-elites

 

[Rotadom]

 

[Ezkaton]

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Random unrelated non-response.

I guess when OP is stating facts that's all you can do.

 

[Rotadom]

It's a thread about indoctrination. My reply is a direct response about indocrination.

Your post, like most of them, makes no sense.

 

[JohnEngelman]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...it-means-the-right-to-dissent-from-the-elites

The left complains about banned books. It did not complain when Amazon stopped selling books written by Jared Taylor. I am confident that leftists would prevent a high school civics or biology teacher from assigning the teacher's class to reading Professor J. Philippe Rushton's essay "Race, Evolution, and Behavior," even though the assertions of that essay are thoroughly documented, and obvious to anyone who has taught or attended a multi racial public school.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

 

[Rotadom]

Does Jared Taylor author math books? The conservative right is banning math books "based on" CRT indoctrination.

 

[phrodeau]

Does Jared Taylor author math books? The conservative right is banning math books "based on" CRT indoctrination.

No, and his books are available at Barnes and Noble.

But Amazon doesn’t sell them, so he’s a total martyr.

 

[Rotadom]

No, and his books are available at Barnes and Noble.

But Amazon doesn’t sell them, so he’s a total martyr.

The right must be so confused about who they are supposed to hate and why.
Trump said WaPo is fake news so go to the Wash Exam, owned by Bezos.
Amazon is banning "right-wing" books but Bezos owns Amazon and Wash Exam.

Poor righties.

 

[ll74]

This is a dumb take

 

[siobhancan99]

The right must be so confused about who they are supposed to hate and why.
Trump said WaPo is fake news so go to the Wash Exam, owned by Bezos.
Amazon is banning "right-wing" books but Bezos owns Amazon and Wash Exam.

Poor righties.

The examiner is owned by Philip Anschutz

 

[Rotadom]

The examiner is owned by Philip Anschutz

You are correct but it actually helps my point so I thank you.

 

[icanhelp1]

The right must be so confused about who they are supposed to hate and why.
Trump said WaPo is fake news so go to the Wash Exam, owned by Bezos.
Amazon is banning "right-wing" books but Bezos owns Amazon and Wash Exam.

Poor righties.

Me thinks Bezos owns WAPO

 

[Rotadom]

The examiner is owned by Philip Anschutz

You are correct but it actually helps my point so I thank you.

Me thinks Bezos owns WAPO

Me thinks icanbeslow is correct.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Does Jared Taylor author math books? The conservative right is banning math books "based on" CRT indoctrination.

I would like to look at those mathematics books. If they find ways to blame whites for black problems they should be excluded.

If a mathematics book sticks to mathematics, and avoids political issues, I am sure that it is not banned from school.

 

[Rotadom]

If a mathematics book sticks to mathematics, and avoids political issues, I am sure that it is not banned from school.

You'd be wrong.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

This whole indoctrination whining is nothing but bullshit. You americans with your book bannings and hatred of homos and trannies is getting out of control.
As a nation, you're doomed.

 

[JohnEngelman]

You'd be wrong.

Do you know anything about the mathematics books that were banned? What was the rationale for banning them?

 

[icanhelp1]

You are correct but it actually helps my point so I thank you

This whole indoctrination whining is nothing but bullshit. You americans with your book bannings and hatred of homos and trannies is getting out of control.
As a nation, you're doomed.

Coming from someone who's content sucking the shit out of fascist Trudeau's ass.

 

[JohnEngelman]

This whole indoctrination whining is nothing but bullshit. You americans with your book bannings and hatred of homos and trannies is getting out of control.
As a nation, you're doomed.

If you believe that high school civics teachers and biology teachers should not be allowed to teach Professor J. Philippe Rushton's essay, "Race, Evolution, and Behavior," you are being hypocritical about condemning book banning.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

Liberals complain when books like Heather Has Two Mommies are banned.

They are not protective of books like Charles Murray's “Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America.”

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1O3VFHAYM6D7P?ref=pf_ov_at_pdctrvw_srp

 

[Rotadom]

Florida math book ban miscalculates​

https://www.gainesville.com/story/o...math-books-just-political-theater/7409796001/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-banned-references-Critical-Race-Theory.html
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local...-books-rejected-for-crt-other-issues/2742102/

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Coming from someone who's content sucking the shit out of fascist Trudeau's ass.

Disliking anti vaxxers isn't supporting trudeau, dipshit. Canadians dont idolize politicians like you morons do.

 

[BernadetteRochelle]

"Liberal" and "Conservative" barely have anything to do with it. Global culture is mostly a few multi-bilionares versus the rest of us.

 

[icanhelp1]

To conservatives, it means being able to demonize children for being who they are, it means speech that brings violence at LGBTQ+ people under the guise of ‘just my opinion’ and ‘religion’.

For conservatives its about letting children be children and not packing their tiny little heads with bullshit. What speech brings violence to LGBTQ? Cite

Oh, and trying to overthrow the government. And overturn an election.

No one to this day was charged or convicted of insurrection or trying to overthrow the government.

Also, has anyone else noticed that conservatives use the term ‘elite’ when what they want to say is ‘people with education and experience to back up what they say’?

Not elite! *elitist* You know, those better than thou dumbasses that run people like you around by the nose.

 

[phrodeau]

Do you know anything about the mathematics books that were banned? What was the rationale for banning them?

Florida has been semi-transparent about both the books in question and their rationale.

 

[icanhelp1]

Disliking anti vaxxers isn't supporting trudeau, dipshit. Canadians dont idolize politicians like you morons do.

Ya can't accuse me of idolizing politicians. Anti Vaxxers are people too!