Thoughts from an older man....

[Escierto]

So why suggest that he prey on women that are more vulnerable and desperate?

I am not suggesting that he prey on anyone. I am merely suggesting that he might look for women that have an appreciation of what he can offer.

A lot of people in Third World countries are vulnerable and desperate. Trying to help some of them is not necessarily “preying” on them.

I helped my Filipina girlfriend rent and renovate a space for a hair and nail salon. She never could have afforded to do this herself. She has a beautiful salon where she employs herself as well as two other people. She often tells me that she cannot imagine what her life would be like if I had not come along. Am I preying on her? She certainly doesn’t feel as though she has been preyed upon.

 

[KatieDoes]

I am not suggesting that he prey on anyone. I am merely suggesting that he might look for women that have an appreciation of what he can offer.

A lot of people in Third World countries are vulnerable and desperate. Trying to help some of them is not necessarily “preying” on them.

I helped my Filipina girlfriend rent and renovate a space for a hair and nail salon. She never could have afforded to do this herself. She has a beautiful salon where she employs herself as well as two other people. She often tells me that she cannot imagine what her life would be like if I had not come along. Am I preying on her? She certainly doesn’t feel as though she has been preyed upon.

Seeking vulnerable women, who have few options but to use their bodies to escape their circumstances is exploitative.

Trying to ‘help’ vulnerable and desperate people in third world countries would not require access to their bodies as a condition of them receiving ‘help’. That isn’t help, it’s exploitation.

Perhaps you care very deeply for your partner. That is lovely. Congratulations on finding happiness.

 

[Escierto]

Seeking vulnerable women, who have few options but to use their bodies to escape their circumstances is exploitative.

Trying to ‘help’ vulnerable and desperate people in third world countries would not require access to their bodies as a condition of them receiving ‘help’. That isn’t help, it’s exploitation.

Perhaps you care very deeply for your partner. That is lovely. Congratulations on finding happiness.

What you describe is simple prostitution. You don’t have to go to a Third World country to find women to take advantage of. There are poor and desperate women even in the US.

Would you go so far as to describe every relationship between a man and a woman as exploitation? Many definitely are but many are not. Sometimes a woman exploits a man although more often the opposite is true.

I am not suggesting that he travel as a sex tourist. I am suggesting that he could broaden his horizons in a search for a partner.

 

[KatieDoes]

What you describe is simple prostitution. You don’t have to go to a Third World country to find women to take advantage of. There are poor and desperate women even in the US.

Would you go so far as to describe every relationship between a man and a woman as exploitation? Many definitely are but many are not. Sometimes a woman exploits a man although more often the opposite is true.

I am not suggesting that he travel as a sex tourist. I am suggesting that he could broaden his horizons in a search for a partner.

That is….. an odd take.

No. I don’t view partnerships between men and women that care for each other as exploitive.

 

[Escierto]

That is….. an odd take.

No. I don’t view partnerships between men and women that care for each other as exploitive.

People can care for each other and still engage in exploitation of the other. In fact the feelings one person has for another might be the thing that allows the other person to exploit them. If you put a lot of relationships under a microscope, a fair amount of exploitation might be revealed where one person takes unfair advantage of the other.

 

[KatieDoes]

Whatever helps you sleep at night

 

[Sean]

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[lifeis2short2b]

The guy likes Young women. I don't know what he has to offer them. Just because it's not my preference I don't see any reason to attack him, ???? Life is 2 short 2....Not get what you want

 

[KatieDoes]

The guy likes Young women. I don't know what he has to offer them. Just because it's not my preference I don't see any reason to attack him, ???? Life is 2 short 2....Not get what you want

I don’t believe that suggesting he work towards developing a personality that women would be attracted to is an attack.

 

[stickygirl]

I don’t believe that suggesting he work towards developing a personality that women would be attracted to is an attack.

It isn't an attack, but your suggestion that he is capable of reform after that opening diatribe, bemoaning the state of affairs where women have choices and autonomy, is a vain hope.

The OP writes with a level of entitlement I didn't think existed outside of the 1950s and I suspect he's more 78 than 58. If he were 58 he surely couldn't remain so untouched by the passage of time, but if he is 58 it demonstrates how insulated men can become from even a basic grasp of equality.

 

[KatieDoes]

In the interest of honesty, I don’t think he’s able, either.

My comment was intended more for other men that were reading and lurking and seeing a bit of themselves in his complaints, but weren’t so far gone that they couldn’t find use for that insight.

I don’t know if those men actually exist here, though. The rampant misogyny here is….. a lot.

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Do you realize your on a site where women desire..old men, father figures, want to be spanked, gang banged, rape role play. Cum on there face, peed on and a bunch of other stuff. Yet you pull the misogyny card. LMFAO !!!!!
This is where you now attack me for disagreeing with you. I've seen your posts its the same act when you disagree with someone. I actually think you have multiple accounts and use that for those attacks.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I am not suggesting that he prey on anyone. I am merely suggesting that he might look for women that have an appreciation of what he can offer.

A lot of people in Third World countries are vulnerable and desperate. Trying to help some of them is not necessarily “preying” on them.

I helped my Filipina girlfriend rent and renovate a space for a hair and nail salon. She never could have afforded to do this herself. She has a beautiful salon where she employs herself as well as two other people. She often tells me that she cannot imagine what her life would be like if I had not come along. Am I preying on her? She certainly doesn’t feel as though she has been preyed upon.

Did you give her a fan and a can of corn?

 

[JohnnySavage]

Shoulda finished reading the thread...

 

[IrisAlthea]

Life is 2 short 2....Not get what you want

Well, as the poets said: ”You can’t always get what you want.”

The guy likes Young women. I don't know what he has to offer them. Just because it's not my preference I don't see any reason to attack him,

It’s not about his preference, but his bemoaning that young women have more of a choice these days:

the empowerment of women has kind of ruined traditional avenues a man could take to establish a rapport with a woman

Based on posting history, I think the preference might actually be attention though.

Do you realize your on a site where women desire..old men, father figures, want to be spanked, gang banged, rape role play. Cum on there face, peed on and a bunch of other stuff

Yet the complaint was that they don’t.

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Well, as the poets said: ”You can’t always get what you want.”



It’s not about his preference, but his bemoaning that young women have more of a choice these days:



Based on posting history, I think the preference might actually be attention though.



Yet the complaint was that they don’t.

This guy has an opinion ! Who knows where he lives and how many women he actually interacts with on a daily basis ? I don't have to agree with him, which I don't. But if you want to throw quotes around how about "Walk a mile in his shoes". I wish I had the time to analyze every sentence that people post here, Analysis paralysis I DON'T. i'm here for fun.

 

[IrisAlthea]

This guy has an opinion ! Who knows where he lives and how many women he actually interacts with on a daily basis ? I don't have to agree with him, which I don't. But if you want to throw quotes around how about "Walk a mile in his shoes". I wish I had the time to analyze every sentence that people post here, Analysis paralysis I DON'T. i'm here for fun.

Yup, he has an opinion.
So do the others who posted.

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Yup, he has an opinion.
So do the others who posted.

But he is not attacking any one. I also question the SAME GROUP of people Who seem to twist his opinion into " misogyny " . Especially on this platform. It's hypocritical

 

[stickygirl]

I know there are women who want to be seen as a desirable object, to be looked after by a grateful older man, who may indeed be looked after in a kindly way - is that misogyny or philanthropy? It depends on your viewpoint and all this thread has done is spotlight those different viewpoints.

I've seen the older white guy with his asian woman in tow and I used to be critical, but these days, less so. If they both benefit from the arrangement, there was no coercion and both are adults, then who am I to criticise? The ones you see together in the mall shopping are a long way from the women we don't see - the ones smuggled across borders into slavery.

I'm a feminist and I have a boyfriend - those are not contradictory, because feminism isn't misandry, it's about equality. How we decide on that equality in a society is based on a wide legal brushstroke; how to decide within a relationship isn't really anyone else's business.

But the OP, as others have pointed out, was bemoaning a situation where women don't have to need him and that's kinda fucked up. That's expecting women to be grateful for his patronage and that isn't philanthropy.

 

[lazy_literotic]

if the gal's just there for a lifestyle they like - I think it's sad.
one can get satisfaction in life from personal achievements.
one thing that I know, a sister of a gal I worked with married a guy 19 yrs older than her.
they stayed married for the whole time, he died.
but the problem was that the young wife essentially stole the guy's daughter's inheritance.

 

[IrisAlthea]

But he is not attacking any one. I also question the SAME GROUP of people Who seem to twist his opinion into " misogyny " . Especially on this platform. It's hypocritical

No.
Women being on

a site where women desire..old men, father figures, want to be spanked, gang banged, rape role play. Cum on there face, peed on and a bunch of other stuff.

…is freedom to choose what to get involved in - the other side of the freedom not to be involved in certain things or with certain people.

 

[KatieDoes]

But he is not attacking any one. I also question the SAME GROUP of people Who seem to twist his opinion into " misogyny " . Especially on this platform. It's hypocritical

No one had to twist his opinion into misogyny. His opinion is literally the textbook definition of misogyny.


He is lamenting that women have the autonomy and agency to choose partners based on whether they enjoy being with them or not. He is upset that women are able to provide for themselves and don’t require a man to be able to exist.

He isn’t asking what he can change about himself to become more appealing to women that have options. He’s asking how to find women that don’t have other options.

That is misogyny.

Yes, this is a porn site. Women like sex. Maybe not with you, or with this dinosaur, but women like sex.

Women can and do choose to consent to all sorts of fun and filthy kinky things with people that they enjoy doing those things with. That doesn’t make them less human or less valid or less than men. Do the men that choose to consent to being pegged or cuckolded, or dominated, or other non traditionally masculine kinks give up their autonomy and agency and the right to choose who and when and how they engage sexually?

Women, even women on a porn site, are full fledged people with agency over their bodies. We aren’t props or objects or dick receptacles. There are a lot of great men on this platform. I’ve spoken with a bunch of them. There are also a lot of entitled, misogynistic men here that loathe women and act as though the value of our existence is based upon our usefulness to them. So, yes, misogyny is rampant here.


Why would I need other accounts? Who the hell has time for that? I’m just me. I don’t give a shit if you like me. I’m good.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Do you realize your on a site where women desire..old men, father figures, want to be spanked, gang banged, rape role play. Cum on there face, peed on and a bunch of other stuff.

And if women desire that...that is within their personal sexual agency to do so. It is not a social default for their existence.

if you're not willing to have all that done to you, what does that say about how you actually view those actions?

Then some dudes will be like, "I was able to give them opportunities and access to higher quality resources available to upper levels of society that they never had on their own."

quiet caveat they never say out loud: "as long as I was able to fuck them."

totally interchangeable with youth and/or race. "Hey, you should think about going to an Asian/Latin/African country, there's loads of young gals there who'll bed you straight off the plane."

compounded by the excuse we tell ourselves while living under arbitrary laws: "Everyone involved is an adult making their own choices."

While this is true, the two leverages in these interactions are almost always being older and having money. From an earlier period of living when it was easier to fuck people over. If they're young, they never lived the way you did. If they're a minority, they might be on a lower social level than you and have to deal with social/sexual stereotypes that facilitate a one-way desire. Ergo, you are never meeting them on an equal social plane of existence.

How do you think that shapes the way you think and move in this world when you need to eat, pay rent and get to the next month intact and whole as a body? One person might think, I will milk what I can out of this person in order to survive and the other person might think, If I just keep putting coins in the slot machine, sex is gonna come out.

while it is true that these conditions aren't absolutes to humanity and that sincere love can and may flourish from a spark of whatever, we cannot be naive about power imbalances in our society and how our having to live in it makes us think that these conditions are absolutes to our humanity. Conditions that only serve one group.

because this part screamed it all:

the young ones either expect too much, or know they can get it themselves and so are closed to the entreaties of nice men like me, or have gotten caught up in the wave of straight white man hatred that has erupted these recent years.

the Hugh Hefner era of sex is over. We gotta move on, evolve through change and be better.

 

[thør]

the Hugh Hefner era of sex is over. We gotta move on, evolve through change and be better.

If I had them, I'd retire the black PJs and the silk smoking jacket.

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Blah blah blah blah. Hypocritical and shit stirrers