Thou Shalt Honor the Sabbath

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League says, "Hey, we told them when we let them in that there would be playoff games on the Sabbath."

School could similarly say, "Why did they let us in if they knew we could not play on the Sabbath?"

By the way, the Sabbath in question is the Jewish Sabbath, Friday–Saturday, sundown to sundown.

Had it been the Christian Sabbath, would the response be different?

You say...?

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In Texas, the Sabbath Trumps the Semifinals
By MARY PILON, New York Times
February 27, 2012

The Robert M. Beren Academy, an Orthodox Jewish day school in Houston, won its regional championship to advance to the boys basketball state semifinals this weekend in Dallas. But the team will not make the trip.

Beren Academy's basketball team had hoped to travel to Dallas early and play its semifinal game before sundown on Friday.

The Beren Academy players observe the Sabbath and do not play from sundown on Fridays to sundown on Saturdays. Their semifinal game is scheduled for 9 p.m. Friday.

“The sacred mission will trump excellence in the secular world,” Rabbi Harry Sinoff, Beren’s head of school, said Monday in a telephone interview.

The school filed an appeal to change the time of the game with the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, or Tapps, the group that organizes the tournament. On Monday morning, representatives of the school were notified that the association’s nine-member executive board had rejected the appeal.

“When Beren’s joined years ago, we advised them that the Sabbath would present them with a problem with the finals,” Edd Burleson, the director of the association, said. “In the past, Tapps has held firmly to their rules because if schedules are changed for these schools, it’s hard for other schools.

“If we solve one problem, we create another problem.”


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The rest: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/s...g-sabbath-loses-trip-to-state-semifinals.html
 
I do honestly think it would be different.

Get ready for the pitchforks up in here though.
 
I do honestly think it would be different.

Get ready for the pitchforks up in here though.

These threads don't play well at night. The best I can hope for is that someone posts the John Goodman bit from the Big Lebowski, and maybe that Bert spouts off with some comedically angry bit of latent antisemitism.


Will the persecution of the Jews ever end?

*cues Theme from Chariots of Fire*

I'll be right back, I've got to go buy a lottery ticket.
 
Let's say that instead of 9 p.m. on Friday night, say the game was 9 a.m. on Sunday morning. And let's say a particular regional champion said they couldn't make their playoff game because they routinely attended church from 9-12 on Sundays.

Would the league have shifted their game to noon? Should they? What would the public response be?
 
Let's say that instead of 9 p.m. on Friday night, say the game was 9 a.m. on Sunday morning. And let's say a particular regional champion said they couldn't make their playoff game because they routinely attended church from 9-12 on Sundays.

Would the league have shifted their game to noon? Should they? What would the public response be?

I absolutely think they would shift the game to noon.

Should they though? That's a more difficult question.

I guess the only honest answer I can give is that if one religion gets the exception, all of them should.

And that's why I see it as flawed, because if this were happening to a Christian school their would be outrage over it, and the same old tired bullshit that anything Christian based is bashed in this country because we live under the rule of a communist dictator blah blah blah.
 
There's no Sabbath prohibition against playing games. There is one on traveling in vehicles, but that could be averted by spending the night in the tourney town.
 
Thank you, Bert. I hope you'll keep me posted as other thoughts occur to you. Please don't be embarrassed if they seem inane or unrelated.

Just trying to put a little spice on the most boring thread on page one...you're welcome btw. Obviously you're on to something very sinister. Now I know why the list of famous Jewish basketball stars is so short.
 
Just trying to put a little spice on the most boring thread on page one...you're welcome btw. Obviously you're on to something very sinister. Now I know why the list of famous Jewish basketball stars is so short.
I'm sorry your haircut-music thread sucked. I know that can be hard. Make as many Jewish jokes as you need to feel better about it.
 
Did you hear about the rabbi who did circumcisions?

He only took tips.
 
By the by...

I thought this thread would be about honoring Black Sabbath.
 
I'm sorry your haircut-music thread sucked. I know that can be hard. Make as many Jewish jokes as you need to feel better about it.

Oh, I'm not worried at all about that. It's nice to see you talking sports with the guys though. Well, I guess it's not really about sports at all, is it?

Never mind.
 
Two old Jewish men are at the beach. One begins to drown. The other pulls him to shallow water. "Now, Irving, do you think you can float alone?"

"Really, Jacob," the first one says. "This is a time to talk business?"
 
Mr. Goldberg calls his Rabbi and says, “Rabbi, I have a problem and I need your advice. This year my beloved Yankees are playing a playoff that starts on the night of Kol Nidre. You know I’m a super fan, so you can imagine how torn up I am. What should I do?”

The Rabbi thinks for a moment and responds, “Mr. Goldberg, what are you worried about? It is just for a situation like this that we have VCRs and DVRs

Mr. Goldberg replies, “You mean I can tape Kol Nidre?!”
 
A well-dressed Jew walks into a bank in New York City and asks for the loan officer. He says he is going to Europe on business for two weeks and needs to borrow five thousand dollars.

The bank officer says the bank will need some kind of security for such a loan, so the man hands over the keys to a new Rolls Royce parked on the street in front of the bank. Everything checks out, and the bank agrees to accept the car as collateral for the loan.

An employee drives the Rolls into the bank’s underground garage and parks it there.

Two weeks later, the man returns, repays the five thousand dollars, and the interest, which comes to $15.41.

The loan officer says, “We are very happy to have had your business, and this transaction has worked out very nicely, but we are a little puzzled. While you were away, we checked you out and found that you are a multi-billionaire. What puzzles us is why would you bother to borrow five thousand dollars?”

The Jew replied, “Where else in New York can I park my car for two weeks for fifteen bucks?”
 
A young Jewish man excitedly tells his mother he’s fallen in love and that he is going to get married. He says, “Just for fun, Ma, I’m going to bring over three women and you try and guess which one I’m going to marry.” The mother agrees.

The next day, he brings three beautiful women into the house and sits them down on the couch and they chat for a while. He then says, “Okay, Ma, guess which one I’m going to marry.”

She immediately replies, “The one on the right.”

“That’s amazing, Ma. You’re right. How did you know?

The Jewish mother replies, “I don’t like her.”
 
A woman goes to the post office to buy stamps for her Hanukkah cards.

She says to the clerk, “May I have fifty Hanukkah stamps?”

The clerk says, “What denomination?”

“Oh my God,” the woman says, “has it come to this? Give me sixteen Orthodox, twenty-two Conservative, and twelve Reform.”
 
There's no Sabbath prohibition against playing games. There is one on traveling in vehicles, but that could be averted by spending the night in the tourney town.
...unless the playing of the game could be construed as work.

But assuming they can't play on Sabbath for whatever reason...should the game have been moved?
 
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