This just in from John Kerry:

[SleepingWarrior]

Hence the need for a multi-pronged approach, which is what I've been saying. Clinton dropped some of the balls. Bush has dropped different ones. We need them all in the air.

Would have to find some new ones since none of the old ones were enough for the world to get tough on such extremists whether they were nations or groups.

 

[Slider69]

Hence the need for a multi-pronged approach, which is what I've been saying. Clinton dropped some of the balls. Bush has dropped different ones. We need them all in the air.

It's not the balls in the air that matter, it's who's juggling them.

We haven't had a true statesman in years.

I'm not categorically against working with allies, but I'm equally tired of the growing chorus of wackos who believe the US should simply adopt "international" standards, whatever the fuck that means.

We should never abdicate our sovereignty for the sake of going along to get along. Jorge Bush has made some disastrous missteps, but that's not synonymous with having to swing the pendulum the other way. If Bush were as good a public speaker as Clinton, half of the animus toward him would be non-existent.

Kerry, on the other hand, is a complete knob. Always has been, always will be.

 

[TheOlderGuy]

Rather than "bring it on" after 9/11, would you prefer "we're sorry, what did we do wrong"?

"bring it on" had nothing to do with 9/11. the proper response to 9/11 was to go get the fuckers. but we didn't. we went to Iraq instead, and accomplished NOTHING but to create a safe haven for terrorists of all stripes. it was when it first became clear that his mission was far from accomplished in Iraq that Bush got all junior high with "bring it on"

 

[Sean]

We can barely get any kind of consensus on the North Korea and Iran situations so how could we on this?

That might just be because nobody trusts the US of A. Why might that be, do you think?

 

[overthebow]

"bring it on" had nothing to do with 9/11. the proper response to 9/11 was to go get the fuckers. but we didn't. we went to Iraq instead, and accomplished NOTHING but to create a safe haven for terrorists of all stripes. it was when it first became clear that his mission was far from accomplished in Iraq that Bush got all junior high with "bring it on"

Bush said in a high level meeting that he was going to kick Saddam's motherfucking ass all over the middle east.

That sure happened.

3000 dead soldiers later, it is still happening.

 

[SleepingWarrior]

That might just be because nobody trusts the US of A. Why might that be, do you think?

It has little to do with that and you know it. But if blaming the US for the world's inaction gets you to sleep at night thats ok.

 

[garbage can]

I'm not categorically against working with allies, but I'm equally tired of the growing chorus of wackos who believe the US should simply adopt "international" standards, whatever the fuck that means.

It means that Kofi Anan should be calling the shots.

 

[wazhazhe]

Since I have ya here...

What do you make of the hype over this report of findings showing that the Saddam regime was still pursuing and/or had some nuclear weapon making capabilities after the end of the '91 conflict?

There is no credible evidence that Saddam had any kind of nuclear program after the Gulf War.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

There is no credible evidence that Saddam had any kind of nuclear program after the Gulf War.

That's right; I don't believe a thing the Times prints...

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

"bring it on" had nothing to do with 9/11. the proper response to 9/11 was to go get the fuckers. but we didn't. we went to Iraq instead, and accomplished NOTHING but to create a safe haven for terrorists of all stripes. it was when it first became clear that his mission was far from accomplished in Iraq that Bush got all junior high with "bring it on"

No, we went to Afghanistan first and did what the Russians were incapable of doing and then we went into Iraq exposing their corruption and duplicity. The French too, but their day is coming and coming soon...

Then the fuckers came to get us and we kicked their ass at which point and time Iran decided it, instead of Al Qaeda, would lead the Jihad and it instructed Hizbullah and Mookie to go nuts and enable the American Left to continue its fifth column activities and you're one of their soldiers...

Furthermore, since the press is an organ of the Democrat party, they report on good news for Democrats and dissent is what is good, so they seek it, champion it, foster it, and elevate it.

 

[Ishmael]

That's right; I don't believe a thing the Times prints...

You're speakikng of the article on Saddam's nuclear program printed in the Times yesterday no doubt?

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

PLANS DON'T THREATEN PEOPLE!

Only Republican Neo-cons threaten people!

FUCKING NEO-CONS! I hated the fucking Matrix too!

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Those documents weren't even in his handwriting as his Democrat lawyer pointed out in the trial...

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Besides

...they were OLD plans!

 

[Ishmael]

...they were OLD plans!

Yep, 11 years old. LOL

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

We remembers my precious, oh yes, we rememberssssss..............

 

[Ham Murabi]

How about not making idiotic comments? That's the point.

Kerry's didn't endanger the troops and Bush's did. Which do you think is worse?

I don't buy that. I think it's absurd to believe two words have ignited a firestorm of violent opposition.

 

[Pookie]

I don't buy that. I think it's absurd to believe two words have ignited a firestorm of violent opposition.

Go up to a group of people already sorta pissed off at you to begin with and boldly tell them to "bring it on" and see what likely happens. Only an idiot would do it.

 

[TheOlderGuy]

No, we went to Afghanistan first and did what the Russians were incapable of doing and then we went into Iraq exposing their corruption and duplicity. The French too, but their day is coming and coming soon...

Then the fuckers came to get us and we kicked their ass at which point and time Iran decided it, instead of Al Qaeda, would lead the Jihad and it instructed Hizbullah and Mookie to go nuts and enable the American Left to continue its fifth column activities and you're one of their soldiers...

Furthermore, since the press is an organ of the Democrat party, they report on good news for Democrats and dissent is what is good, so they seek it, champion it, foster it, and elevate it.

these thugs wouldn't even have bothered with the Taliban if they could have figured out earlier how to bullshit everyone on Iraq and WMD's. they have no interest in getting the bad guys. the bushes and the bin Ladins have been sleeping together for years.

Mookie? i googled it. came up with the Mets Mookie Wilson (probably before your time), and some formulaic comedy from the nineties, but nothing that would explain your reference, AJ.

the "organ of the Democratic party" gave Bush and Co. a free ride thru all of the lies that followed 9/11, and allowed them to take this country down a dangerous and bankrupt path toward tyranny. it's been hard waking up from this nightmare, but there's a window of opportunity to bring democracy back to this country. hope we don't blow it.

 

[TheOlderGuy]

Go up to a group of people already sorta pissed off at you to begin with and boldly tell them to "bring it on" and see what likely happens. Only an idiot would do it.

and at that, only an idiot who sends someone else to do his fighting.

 

[Holy Devil]

and at that, only an idiot who sends someone else to do his fighting.

Yeah. Iraq's become a big joke. American soldiers died for nothing. No just cause. Its so sad.

 

[zipman]

I don't buy that. I think it's absurd to believe two words have ignited a firestorm of violent opposition.

So you don't think his "Bring it on" comments exacerbated the situation?

I definitely do.

And I think it is nothing more than partisan bullshit for people to go after Kerry for his comments and give GWB a free pass on his when it had far worse repurcussions.

 

[Ham Murabi]

So you don't think his "Bring it on" comments exacerbated the situation?

I definitely do.

And I think it is nothing more than partisan bullshit for people to go after Kerry for his comments and give GWB a free pass on his when it had far worse repurcussions.

No. "Bring it on" did nothing. It was said right after 9/11, and if the U.S. and friends took no action against Afghanistan or Iraq, do you believe terrorism would have stopped?
Clinton did nothing more than promise to hunt down terrorists after WTC I, USS Cole and the U.S. Embassy attacks in Africa. Using your logic, if he would have kept mum and just let us keep on taking hits we'd be better off.
Or I could argue that because Clinton promised to hunt down the terrorists 9/11 happened.
And what ever shit Kerry is taking now is something he earned and brought upon himself. I don't think a backlash directed at someone for denigrating members of the armed forces is partisan.
And you know as well as I do that Kerry has been doing it for years.

 

[zipman]

No. "Bring it on" did nothing. It was said right after 9/11, and if the U.S. and friends took no action against Afghanistan or Iraq, do you believe terrorism would have stopped?
Clinton did nothing more than promise to hunt down terrorists after WTC I, USS Cole and the U.S. Embassy attacks in Africa. Using your logic, if he would have kept mum and just let us keep on taking hits we'd be better off.
Or I could argue that because Clinton promised to hunt down the terrorists 9/11 happened.
And what ever shit Kerry is taking now is something he earned and brought upon himself. I don't think a backlash directed at someone for denigrating members of the armed forces is partisan.
And you know as well as I do that Kerry has been doing it for years.

"Bring it on" was said after we had invaded Iraq and before the insurgency had taken control of the situation there. It was bravado that did nothing but inflame the resistance.

And it is partisan bullshit when you only go after the comments/actions of one side of the political spectrum.

 

[Pookie]

and at that, only an idiot who sends someone else to do his fighting.

Yeah, but the mission had already been accomplished, doncha know? There was nothing for Bush to go fight against. Heh.