This just in from John Kerry:

When You're A Lemon, Declare Yourself Lemonade
Political savant John Kerry explains his contribution to the Democratic electoral victory last week:

Shortly before the Nov. 7 elections that brought Democrats back into power in the House and Senate, Kerry retreated from public view following his remark to a college audience that young people might get "stuck in Iraq" if they do not study hard and do their homework.

Kerry said Sunday he had made the decision to keep a low profile after the White House attacked the joke as insulting to U.S. troops and several Democrats called the comment a needless distraction before the pivotal congressional elections.

"Since we had very close races, I made the decision to make certain that I didn't distract. The results speak for themselves," he said.

There you have it - "Keep Kerry Hidden" was a proven winner in '06 and ought to be a key part of the Dem strategy in '08.
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LovingTongue said:
What LT said.
Just to let you know I'm responding.
We can argue all day about how you and I differ regarding how most people get AIDS. We can also discuss the minimal pollution generated by newer coal-fired power plants, and you can defend your position that you'd rather have to pay a lot more for renewable power and hope to have it available 24 hours a day.
BTW, I also like natural gas.
You stand for a higher minimum wage. Fine. I think Nevada's and Arizona's new minimum wage, which will be indexed to the apparently inevitable hike in the federal minimum as well as the CPI, will result in fewer jobs, particularly for those new to the job market. You believe that a starting minimum wage of $8, which isn't all that far off, won't hurt anybody and isn't inflationary. I believe some jobs just aren't worth $8 an hour to some employers and will vanish.
I've dealt with a minor medical condition for months, mostly by ignoring it. When I finally went to the doctor, I was examined, X-rayed and out the door within an hour with an appointment to see a specialist in two weeks.
You prefer a "free" system of medical care which will inevitably lead to rationed care and delays that I didn't have to deal with. It's ironic that you rail against the care afforded veterans, yet you seem more than willing to have every citizen in this country endure the same.
I believe this country would be better off if everyone worked only the first two months for the government. Right now, the sum total of local, state and federal government taxes and fees require the average worker to toil into June before he gets to keep what he earns. Your support of big government would push that to August at least.
And you claim to be a friend of the working man.
As for trade barriers, which you support so vociferously in the name of protecting jobs, I say fine. But why stop at national borders? If trade barriers aren't really an issue in terms of availability of goods we want to buy, as you suggest, why not have them in each state?
BTW, LT, I'll bet you're running a trade deficit with the grocery store you frequent.
I'm a fiscal conservative, I want secure borders, I believe the best terrorist is a dead terrorist. I don't need the results of a vote to validate my opinions and positions, nor do I shed tears for big-spending Republicans who supported amnesty and immediate Social Security benefits for illegals - Republicans who won't be returning to Congress in 2007.
Go ahead and respond, but rest assured no one else is reading this tedious exchange. And if you do respond, I've got a wager with another Litster regarding something I think you're sure to do.
 
Ham Murabi said:
. . .

I've dealt with a minor medical condition for months, mostly by ignoring it. When I finally went to the doctor, I was examined, X-rayed and out the door within an hour with an appointment to see a specialist in two weeks.
You prefer a "free" system of medical care which will inevitably lead to rationed care and delays that I didn't have to deal with. It's ironic that you rail against the care afforded veterans, yet you seem more than willing to have every citizen in this country endure the same.

. . .

All healthcare is rationed.

The only difference between US and EU systems is this.

In the EU it's rationed so that everybody gets what they need.

In the US it's rationed so that the richest get what they want.

If you want to live in a society where plastic surgery for vain old women takes priority over healthcare for small children, then you know what ?

Congratulations !

;)
 
busybody said:
When You're A Lemon, Declare Yourself Lemonade
Political savant John Kerry explains his contribution to the Democratic electoral victory last week:

Shortly before the Nov. 7 elections that brought Democrats back into power in the House and Senate, Kerry retreated from public view following his remark to a college audience that young people might get "stuck in Iraq" if they do not study hard and do their homework.

Kerry said Sunday he had made the decision to keep a low profile after the White House attacked the joke as insulting to U.S. troops and several Democrats called the comment a needless distraction before the pivotal congressional elections.

"Since we had very close races, I made the decision to make certain that I didn't distract. The results speak for themselves," he said.

There you have it - "Keep Kerry Hidden" was a proven winner in '06 and ought to be a key part of the Dem strategy in '08.
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This is so funny because it's so true.

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Ham Murabi said:
LovingTongue said:
What LT said.
Just to let you know I'm responding.
We can argue all day about how you and I differ regarding how most people get AIDS. We can also discuss the minimal pollution generated by newer coal-fired power plants, and you can defend your position that you'd rather have to pay a lot more for renewable power and hope to have it available 24 hours a day.
Holey, holey, holey moley! Your arguments are so holey that you should be the flaming God of dumbass by now.

We won't argue about the fact that the CDC agrees with me about the vectors for spreading HIV and you have no medical credibility behind your opinions. The CDC has spoken, and so have countless doctors. You're just mindless background noise on that issue.

We won't argue about minimal pollution either. Nor will we argue about renewable energy which will be here long after coal has run out - oh wait, darn, in your universe, coal can never run out. Sillyme.

BTW, I also like natural gas.
Of course, that's all you have between your ears.

You stand for a higher minimum wage. Fine. I think Nevada's and Arizona's new minimum wage, which will be indexed to the apparently inevitable hike in the federal minimum as well as the CPI, will result in fewer jobs, particularly for those new to the job market. You believe that a starting minimum wage of $8, which isn't all that far off, won't hurt anybody and isn't inflationary. I believe some jobs just aren't worth $8 an hour to some employers and will vanish.
And then the employers will vanish due to lack of people who can buy stuff. Oh wait, they'll be replaced by others who can *gasp*
adapt!
Oh noes, there's that dirty word that you think only applies to workers.

I've dealt with a minor medical condition for months, mostly by ignoring it. When I finally went to the doctor, I was examined, X-rayed and out the door within an hour with an appointment to see a specialist in two weeks.
You prefer a "free" system of medical care which will inevitably lead to rationed care and delays that I didn't have to deal with. It's ironic that you rail against the care afforded veterans, yet you seem more than willing to have every citizen in this country endure the same.
Oh now we all know rationing doesn't happen in America. Try getting a heart transplant when you're old or poor. What was that again?

I believe this country would be better off if everyone worked only the first two months for the government. Right now, the sum total of local, state and federal government taxes and fees require the average worker to toil into June before he gets to keep what he earns. Your support of big government would push that to August at least.
And you claim to be a friend of the working man.
What you talkin about, Willis? I'd much rather people be denied care because they don't have the money to afford it.

At least in America we don't have shortages like Canada. Oh wait, yes we do, it's called an emergency room shortage. Exacerbated by, hmmm, wait, exacerbated by illegal aliens that wanna-be slave drivers like you bring in to do your work for pennies on the dollar, as well as by people who cant afford (and thus cannot get) preventative care and who come to the ER when it's late or even too late. Sillyme.

As for trade barriers, which you support so vociferously in the name of protecting jobs, I say fine. But why stop at national borders? If trade barriers aren't really an issue in terms of availability of goods we want to buy, as you suggest, why not have them in each state?
ERROR - comparing apples to oranges. Wait, this argument of yours was stomped into pancakes before, wasn't it?

International trade barriers are affairs between sovereign governments. America is a sovereign entity inherently not bound to international rules unless we decide to be. The interstate commerce clause is a law binding our sovereign government to a set of rules, namely that states cannot erect trade barriers to each other.

Your argument isn't even relevant unless you equate interstate commerce regulations as being morally the same as international commerce regulations. Hello, Ham Murabi's new world odor.

BTW, LT, I'll bet you're running a trade deficit with the grocery store you frequent.
Oh boy, holes, holes, holes! Your argument is holeyer than a Cardinal locked up in the sex offender ward!

Let's see, where to start!
a) I can get a job at the supermarket without requiring a passport and moving to another country.
b) The supermarket doesn't own enough of my currency and debt to bankrupt me and my family and take my house
c) The supermarket isn't launching cyber attacks against the computers defending my house (oh man, this one went so far over your head you'll think it was a constellation)
d) My "trade deficit" with the supermarket puts people in my community and country to work and thus money back in my pocket. Money going into China doesn't come back here - except to investors who put that money right back into China again.
Oh wait, silly me, you think the America-China relationship is analogous to your average neighbor-to-neighbor relationship.
e) My "deficit" with the supermarket contributes to the wages of American workers (oh, I know, they mean nothing to you) and thus the tax base for my country and the running of my country. Damn, there I go again, loving my COUNTRY over international corporations and the Chinese. Damn me to hell for caring about my country first. Dude can you spare me a Chinese flag? Thx.

I'm a fiscal conservative,
Except when it comes to bailing out failing corporations

I want secure borders,
Then how will you get your cheap labor?

I believe the best terrorist is a dead terrorist.
You're going to assassinate Bush? :eek:

I don't need the results of a vote to validate my opinions and positions, nor do I shed tears for big-spending Republicans who supported amnesty and immediate Social Security benefits for illegals - Republicans who won't be returning to Congress in 2007.
Go ahead and respond, but rest assured no one else is reading this tedious exchange. And if you do respond, I've got a wager with another Litster regarding something I think you're sure to do.
I already won my bet that you're going to be everyone's bitch.
 
Kerry

Rangel

NO DUM HAS RESPECT FOR THE TROOPS

I say bring home the troops and use em to CLEANSE our beloved country of DUMZ

Kerry Redux: Rep. Charlie Rangel is stirring up a fuss, with his Kerryesque views on the U.S. military: “If there’s anyone who believes that these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it. No young, bright individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits. And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment. If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.”

Video at Hot Air, where Allahpundit thinks this is the Rangel/Kerry way to solve the problem of sounding “supportive” of the troops: “Solution: deny their autonomy. Pretend that they’re either too stupid or too lazy or too poor to do anything but enlist.”
 
Rangel went on TV yesterday and said that John Kerry was actually right when he said that people with a future don't go into the military. He totally rejects the Heritage study that found that the average military recruit was more likely to have a high school diploma than than the average civilian and also has a higher reading level.
"If a young fellow has an option of having a decent career, or joining the Army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq," Mr. Rangel, a Democrat representing Manhattan and Queens, said on "Fox News Sunday."

"If there's anyone who believes these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it. No bright young individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits. And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment," the congressman said.

Mr. Rangel was responding to a question about a study by a conservative think tank, the Heritage Foundation, which found that those enlisting in the military tend to be better educated than the general public and that military recruiting seems to be more successful in middle-class and wealthy neighborhoods than in poor ones.

"He's really, indirectly, insulting the troops," the study's author, Timothy Kane, told The New York Sun. "He doesn't want to admit the fact that thousands and tens of thousands of young men and women are willing to make these sacrifices. More and more troops are saying duty and honor are motivating them, not college money."

Mr. Kane, a former Air Force intelligence officer, said his study found that 97% of military enlistees were high school graduates, as compared with about 80% of Americans in general, and that the average reading level of military personnel is a full grade level higher than that of the general populace.

Mr. Kane acknowledged that in 2005 the Army, which was falling short of recruitment goals, began accepting more high school dropouts and more recruits with lower scores on intelligence tests. "It's not a huge surge," he said, noting that the increase amounted to a few percent at most.


Rangel rejects the Heritage Foundation study - I guess conservative think tanks aren't legitimate in his book - and plans for Congress to do their own study. Watch out for how that study is conducted.

I wonder how long before the Democratic leaders in the House tell Rangel to just keep his mouth shut. First he starts arguing for bringing back the draft and forcing almost everyone to do some sort of national service. Then he criticizes everyone in the armed services by coming right out to say that they are uneducated losers with no better alternatives and the only reason they are serving is for the scholarship or bonus money. And his solution for having so many people volunteer to accept those bonuses? Force everyone into the military even though no one in the armed services wants the days of conscription to return. Yup, he's just brilliant.
 
For One Night Only

I feel :rolleyes: ;) for John Kerry.

He's on Larry King Live right now and the graphic at the bottom of the screen says: "First primetime interview since placing last in new popular-leaders poll."
 
Borscht said:
All healthcare is rationed.

The only difference between US and EU systems is this.

In the EU it's rationed so that everybody gets what they need.

In the US it's rationed so that the richest get what they want.

If you want to live in a society where plastic surgery for vain old women takes priority over healthcare for small children, then you know what ?

Congratulations !

;)

Your post is beyond stupid.
 
busybody said:
For One Night Only

I feel :rolleyes: ;) for John Kerry.

He's on Larry King Live right now and the graphic at the bottom of the screen says: "First primetime interview since placing last in new popular-leaders poll."
Which puts him higher up than most Republicans.




HEY MILES!!!!!!

Dude, how does it feel to have lost Congress, ya little bitch? Welcome to the rest of your life, kid.
 
Borscht said:
All healthcare is rationed.

The only difference between US and EU systems is this.

In the EU it's rationed so that everybody gets what they need.

In the US it's rationed so that the richest get what they want.

If you want to live in a society where plastic surgery for vain old women takes priority over healthcare for small children, then you know what ?

Congratulations !

;)
I don't know where you live, but in the U.S. doctors who perform cosmetic surgery don't take care of small children. We refer to those doctors at pediatricians.
But you are correct that U.S. health care is rationed and the richest get what they want. The rationing is based on what is available. Some communities don't have hospitals. And the number of available doctors is finite.
I don't have a problem with the richest getting what they want. If some rich dude has the flu and wants to spend $300 for a doctor to tell him to rest, drink plenty of orange juice and take some aspirin/Tylenol/ibuprofen, fine with me.
In the U.S., though, you can walk into a specialist's office (brain surgery, for example), and see people from all walks of life.
 
vetteman said:
Charlie Rangle is a dumb son of a bitch who spends all of his time fortifying that simple truth.
He's beating a dead horse into the ground. The GOP is defeated... why bother with these issues?
 
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