This just in from John Kerry:

[busybody..]

nothing sums up the nothingness of Kerryism better than those smiling soldiers

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I don't think he's gonna be alone on November 8...

 

[busybody..]

http://www.bartcop.com/kerry-condom-suit.jpg

 

[Kandi]

a partial list of said RIGHT WING NUT JOBS

Right-Wing Nut-Jobs



Rep. Harold Ford

"He needs to apologize to our troops"


Sen. Hillary Clinton

“What Sen. Kerry said was inappropriate”


Gov. Janet Napolitano

“It's just wrong"


U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez

“I think his comments were inappropriate”


New Jersey Senate President Richard Codey

“I think it's offensive”


Senate candidate Jon Tester

“Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid”


North Carolina State Democratic Party chairman Jerry Meek

“John Kerry's botched joke was wrong and he should apologize”


Congressional candidate Bruce Braley

"I believe that Senator Kerry's brief statement was inappropriate”


Congressional candidate John Pavich

“I believe he should apologize to the brave men and women in service.”

That more or less sums up who's running and who isn't. What's Kerry running for anyway?

 

[busybody..]

That more or less sums up who's running and who isn't. What's Kerry running for anyway?

hater of US MILITARY personel

 

[Morcheeba]

There is a high degree of desperation on the part of republicans trying to turn this into some sort of issue for this election.

Actually, it's pretty amusing.

Whoa, wait just a darn sec. It all came straight from the horse's mouth!

* rim dunk

 

[busybody..]

He has been saying THE SAME thing for 32 years

Drinking CRAP

This is for you, you piece of useless SHIT

Yesterday you asserted that Kerry was just misunderstood and didnt mean to shit on the troops

When I pointed out to you how this SGIITING on troops has been his MO since 1971, you attacked me

I pointed you to the Meet The Press interview of April 18 1971

Here is even further evidence of Kerry SHIITING on US troops with the exact words used in 1972 as he used 2 days ago

You arfe a PIECE of SHIT

When you arfe corrected, acknowledge you are wrong and dont shoot the fucking messanger

FUCK YOU

Kerry's '72 Army Comments Mirror Latest


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Nov 2, 3:12 AM (ET)

By JOHN SOLOMON

(AP)
WASHINGTON (AP) - During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to "the perpetuation of war crimes."

Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran who turned against the war, made the observations in answers to a 1972 candidate questionnaire from a Massachusetts peace group.

After Kerry caused a firestorm this week with what he termed a botched campaign joke that Republicans said insulted current soldiers, The Associated Press was alerted to the historical comments by a former law enforcement official who monitored 1970s anti-war activities

Kerry apologized Wednesday for the 2006 campaign trail gaffe that some took as suggesting U.S. soldiers fighting in Iraq were undereducated. He contended the remark was aimed at Bush, not the soldiers.

In 1972, as he ran for the House, he was less apologetic in his comments about the merits of a volunteer army. He declared in the questionnaire that he opposed the draft but considered a volunteer army "a greater anathema."

"I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown," Kerry wrote. "We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply 'doing its job.'

"Equally as important, a volunteer army with our present constitutional crisis takes accountability away from the president and put the people further from control over military activities," he wrote.

Kerry's spokesman, David Wade, said Wednesday the historical document needed to be viewed in the era in which it was written but that it nonetheless raised a "bedrock question in a time of war when sacrifice should be shared by all Americans."

"These are the words 34 years ago of a 28-year-old veteran home from a war gone wrong, wondering who in America will bear the cost of battle and shoulder the responsibility of military service," Wade said.

Kerry filled out the candidate questionnaire at the request of Massachusetts Political Action for Peace, an anti-war group that decades later turned over its historical documents to university researchers.

AP obtained the document from someone who gathered it from archives during Kerry's unsuccessful 2004 presidential campaign against President Bush. Republicans in that election relentlessly assailed Kerry's role in the anti-war movement decades earlier.

Kerry and Bush renewed their rivalry again this week, with the president accusing Kerry of offending troops. Kerry said he botched the text of a joke and didn't mean to insult troops.

On Wednesday, Kerry canceled campaign appearance on behalf of Democratic congressional candidates and issued an apology

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Yep. No traction here.

There'll be no traction because all the Democrats are distancing themselves

and

John Kerry is voluntarily backing off the campaign trail.


The Republicans' ammunition on this is getting cold and wet very fast.

 

[phrodeau]

Busybody has been nothing but derogatory towards this esteemed member of our United States Senate.

I think he owes us an apology.

 

[busybody..]

That's crazy talk. You're compromising your own political beliefs based on bullshit.

End of the NSA Program?

By Kenneth R. Timmerman
FrontPageMagazine.com | November 2, 2006



The importance of next Tuesday’s election to the security of each and every American can be summed up in a single thirty-second spot, called “Wiretap.”

It was written by former Clinton pollster Dick Morris, and is being aired nationwide by Dave Bossie’s Citizens United, a conservative interest group.
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Here is the script.
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Two Arabic-speakers are discussing an imminent terrorist attack, as an NSA tape-recorder captures their conversation.
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“All is now prepared,” says the first.
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“Is everything in place?
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“It is done. When do we attack?
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“Be prompt. Plant the bomb at—“
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At that point, the screen goes blank, and the narrator delivers the come-on: “This terrorist wiretap has been disconnected by a Democrat-controlled Congress.”
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Referring to Democratic party opposition to the President’s terrorist-surveillance program, the narrator then says: “If the Democrats win, the NSA won’t be allowed to listen as terrorists plot attacks.”
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Liberal commentator Alan Colmes, partner with Sean Hannity on the FoxNews channel, was beside himself with indignation on Oct. 30 when he grilled Dick Morris on what he called a “dishonest” bit of negative political advertising.
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The Democrats are not against the Patriot Act, he argued. “Only parts of it. They are against doing it without a warrant.”
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Thankfully, Morris set Colmes straight. Warrantless wiretapping has nothing to do with the Patriot Act, but with an NSA program, launched in utter secret shortly after the September 11 attacks, to “troll the water front” for potential threats to the United States.
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When individuals living overseas with known terrorist connections phone a number in the United States, President Bush ordered the NSA to listen in – just in case.
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You would think it would be a no-brainer, but it’s not. Democrats from Nancy Pelosi to Alcee Hastings, the prospective chairman of the House intelligence committee, have all vowed to put a stop to the practice, and require the NSA to get a warrant for each and every phone call or email or other communication they want to intercept.
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To get those warrants, the NSA will need to go to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court and prove “probable cause.” Hard to do, when the subject, as Dick Morris points out, is “the bridge in the Godzilla movie.”
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How do you go to a judge and say, we think this gentleman in Brooklyn is potentially conspiring to commit at terrorist act because we heard him talking about “the bridge in the Godzilla movie”?
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As it turns out, that is a real case. The terrorists were referring to the Brooklyn bridge. When the NSA figured that out, they phoned the NYPD, who flooded the bridge with cops.
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“Then they picked up in their intercept it’s too hot to work on the Brooklyn Bridge,” Morris said. Because of the intercept, and the quick reaction by the NYPD, the terrorists were forced to abandon the plot.
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The world of real-time intelligence moves almost as fast as the electrons that convey messages over phone lines. The problem is not so much that the FISA court won’t approve terrorist-suspect wiretaps, but the incredible amount of time it takes to pull together the application.
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FBI agents just roll their eyes when asked about FISA applications. They can take weeks, even months to compile. “The last thing you want is to go the court and have your application turned down,” one FBI special agent told me.
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The whole process is simply not built for speed or efficiency, as the National Review’s Byron York pointed out last year. “It is built with an eye to keeping [investigators] in check.”
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Earlier this year, 71 House Democrats joined with independent Bernie Sanders (now running for U.S. Senate in Vermont) to block the NSA from continuing to monitor terrorist phone calls.
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Joining with the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional rights, they filed an amicus brief in two federal courts reviewing challenges to the warrantless wiretapping program in Detroit and New York.
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Both lawsuits demanded that the NSA terrorist surveillance program be ended, pure and simple. Leading the charge was Michigan Democrat John Conyers, in line to be the next chairman of the House Judiciary committee, should the Democrats win a majority of the House next Tuesday.
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"As our brief makes clear, this Congress dealt with this issue authoritatively almost 30 years ago - warrantless spying on American soil is flatly prohibited,” Conyers said.
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Rep. Jane Harman, currently the ranking member of the House intelligence committee, sponsored legislation along with Conyers and Hastings earlier this year that would require the NSA to get a warrant for each and every communication it sought to monitor.
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Called the “Lawful Intelligence and Surveillance of Terrorists in an Emergency by NSA Act, or the LISTEN Act, H..R. 5371 could become law should Democrats win the House.
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"As one who has been briefed on this program, I strongly disagree with (NSA Director) Gen. Alexander," Rep. Harman said in July, when Republican legislation aimed at broadening existence eavesdropping statutes came before the House. "The numbers (of targets requiring a warrant) are manageable, and the principle is non-negotiable."
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The Democrats have decided to run against George W. Bush in every race across the nation. That puts issues such as the NSA terrorist surveillance program right on the front burner. The Democrat plan – such as it is – will gut this and other programs needed to fight terrorists, capture terrorists, and interrogate terrorists, to prevent attacks against Americans and on American soil.
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Dick Morris put a clean cap on it all. “This year, vote like your life depends on it,” the “Wiretap” ad winds up.
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“Because it does.”

 

[wazhazhe]

The issue is not the wiretaps themselves. It's that they were initiated without a warrant.

 

[Peregrinator]

The issue is not the wiretaps themselves. It's that they were initiated without a warrant.

It would be the simplest thing in the world to fix the process with legislation, but people like DizzyBloody insist on making it a campaign issue. I mean, people like him on both sides of the aisle. If the cocksuckers really wanted us safe, rather than just wanting to preserve their own power, they would have worked this out five years ago.

 

[busybody..]

obviously NOT one of you TERRORTURDS actually READ what I posted!

 

[busybody..]

It would be the simplest thing in the world to fix the process with legislation, but people like DizzyBloody insist on making it a campaign issue. I mean, people like him on both sides of the aisle. If the cocksuckers really wanted us safe, rather than just wanting to preserve their own power, they would have worked this out five years ago.

the Legislation the Dumz are proposing is to OUTLAW it lock stock and barrel!

PERIOD, END OF STORY!

 

[Sean]

Not to butt in, but I just saw an interview with Arnie's campaign director. He just said that they didn't want Bush anywhere near California. Kinda strange for a Republican gov to a Rep prez, don't you think?

 

[wazhazhe]

Double post

 

[wazhazhe]

It would be the simplest thing in the world to fix the process with legislation, but people like DizzyBloody insist on making it a campaign issue. I mean, people like him on both sides of the aisle. If the cocksuckers really wanted us safe, rather than just wanting to preserve their own power, they would have worked this out five years ago.

There is already a process in place. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 provides ex parte proceedings solely for the DOJ. Bush should have applied for a FISA warrant. It takes less than twenty four hours to get one. There is even a provision that if time is of the essence, the tap may be put into place and the warrant applied for within a certain length of time.

 

[airborne92]

Not to butt in, but I just saw an interview with Arnie's campaign director. He just said that they didn't want Bush anywhere near California. Kinda strange for a Republican gov to a Rep prez, don't you think?

Not really. Arnie and Bush, while both are republicans, have a lot of different viewpoints.

Arnie has some viewpoints that are more in line with what most Californians are like, and Bush doesn't agree with those viewpoints. It doesn't mean either one is wrong about how they see things. Bush just wouldn't be helpful in Arnie's re-election. He would be helpful in fund raising but not in a personal appearance.

 

[Peregrinator]

the Legislation the Dumz are proposing is to OUTLAW it lock stock and barrel!

PERIOD, END OF STORY!

That's what they're proposing right now, because they think it will get them votes to oppose the other side. They won't actually outlaw it. It's like Bush talking about gay marriage.

 

[Peregrinator]

There is already a process in place. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 provides ex parte proceedings solely for the DOJ. Bush should have applied for a FISA warrant. It takes less than twenty four hours to get one. There is even a provision that if time is of the essence, the tap may be put into place and the warrant applied for within a certain length of time.

Yup. People complain that it still is ponderous and obstructive...as noted in BB's c&p up there, the one he says I didn't read for some reason. It could be streamlined if the assholes were willing to work together. Obviously it's important to listen to international calls from AQ to the US; only an idiot would disagree. Eveybody knows this, and the arguments over it are just political smoke. BB needs everyone to think that the Democrats are going to invite OBL to tea, because he's a Rep flack who sees it as his mission to spread that sort of distortion so his friends can get more power.

 

[Sean]

he's a Rep flack who sees it as his mission to spread that sort of distortion so his friends can get more power.

He has friends now?

 

[Peregrinator]

Not really. Arnie and Bush, while both are republicans, have a lot of different viewpoints.

Arnie has some viewpoints that are more in line with what most Californians are like, and Bush doesn't agree with those viewpoints. It doesn't mean either one is wrong about how they see things. Bush just wouldn't be helpful in Arnie's re-election. He would be helpful in fund raising but not in a personal appearance.

Bush needs to distance himself from Arnie, who is that rarest of breeds, an environmentally-almost-sensible Republican. Cali's emissions standards are the toughest in the country, and no one is bankrupt as a result. It gives the lie to the classic anti-environmental arguments made by the "Oh! My Ducats!" crowd.

 

[Peregrinator]

He has friends now?

Sure; he emails Colin Powell and raises money for a prominent Republican. I don't know if it's public knowledge who he raises money for, but I guarantee you know the name very well.

 

[Sean]

Bush needs to distance himself from Arnie, who is that rarest of breeds, and environmentally-almost-sensible Republican. Cali's emissions standards are the toughest in the country, and no one is bankrupt as a result. It gives the lie to the classic anti-environmental arguments made by the "Oh! My Ducats!" crowd.

Sixth largest economy in the world, according to the BBC. And GWB appears to be persona non grata with a lot of Republican contenders at the moment. He's seen as a liability.

 

[airborne92]

Bush needs to distance himself from Arnie, who is that rarest of breeds, an environmentally-almost-sensible Republican. Cali's emissions standards are the toughest in the country, and no one is bankrupt as a result. It gives the lie to the classic anti-environmental arguments made by the "Oh! My Ducats!" crowd.

That is probably a fair description of Arnie.

I agree and disagree with both Arnie and Bush, just depends on the issue in question.