This Could Present a Quandry!

Well the problem is, Wet-- the states have not limited themselves to "Police, firefighters, teachers, roads, schools "

It's easy to talk about the states being petrie dishes, but we are not bacteria, we are human beings. And while the states are being petrie dishes, people are being forced to grow up live and die under petrie dish conditions.

It should be pretty fucking obvious that most human beings who are getting fucked over by the majority rule of the state they live in will look for succor.

And i gotta say, this latest crop of absolutely fucking insane anti-abortion/anti-conception/anti-health care for women laws are going to result in the states losing yet another significant measure of control, because women will have to make sure of it, as part of that "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" that all humans are endowed with as inalienable rights.

Bitch about federal mandates all you like, but you won't impress me much.

Actually, the conditions in petri dishes are almost perfect for sustaining the life that is in them.

I have to agree with what you say about the anti-abortion laws. I have never heard of anti-conception laws in the US but I suppose you mean anti-contraception laws. I don't believe there are any of them still on the books, but there probably have been sometime or other, and Santorum would like to pass some.

I have also never heard of any anti-health care for women laws. As far as I know, the health care for men and women is the same, after allowing for the gender differences we all know about.

BTW, with Obamacare, the states have already lost whatever control they might have had over health care. Hopefully, that misbegotten law will be repealed in a year, before it does any more damage.

I hope you know, that line about "Life, Liberty...." is not in the Constitution.
 
It will not. The president will be re-elected by a margin of about 45-50 electoral votes. I know that it will alarm many that such a thing can be so accurately predicted while completely ignoring the various national polls, but this research has been right for a very long time.
 
Meh.

Box.. talk about something you know about. Licking pussy, for instance.

In your opinion, how many women actually prefer the super-fast lapping tongue technique? And how many hours a day should a sincere cunt licker try to practice it? I gotta assume there's a mean between a well--exercised tongue and an overexercised tired flabby one.


Personally, I prefer to use a lot of suction, pulling as much of the cunt lips into my mouth as I can manage, and working my tongue against the clit while holding it trapped between my lips. What's your preference?
 
Let's see. I just went to Wal-mart yesterday and there is quite a bit of contraception available over the counter. You got your magnums and your trojans. A variety of spermicidal lube flavors included. You got pills aplenty. On military bases (federal government installations) you got almost as much variety, a whole shelf of rubbers. What brought about all this diversity and sustains it? The market, and competition.

So let's take all that variety and make the government pay for it, and guess what.. the variety will diminish as it becomes a budget item people fight over. The Midas touch is destructive.

While we're making contraceptives everybody's business (as it is still everybody's money we are spending) let's go ahead and set aside some money for another wonderful product that comes in a large variety and no one can do without: cough drops.:devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dFyaq-pYc
 
Reading this thread I am reminded yet again why I rarely come here any more. It used to be we in the AH could, with certain exceptions, discuss politics without the vituperative fury and hatred of the rest of the world.

No more. Now it's war to the knife and the knife to the hilt. You're either with us or against us. Victory no matter the cost.

Now I'll wander aways before I become collateral damage.
 
Until now, I have been confident I would vote against The Big O in the November election. If it came to Obama or Donald Duck, I would confidently cast my ballot for Donald. Now, I'm not at all sure.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick-santorum-wants-ban-hardcore-pornography-222833811.html

If this lunatic wins the Rep. nomination, do I vote against him or the idiot now in office. Santorum apparently wants to turn the US into some kind of theocracy, something like Plymouth Colony hundreds of years ago. This would be a terrible idea, but the alternative would be four more years of The Big O.

So, which one would I vote against: The lunatic Santorum or the idiot Obama? :confused: Maybe I would vote for a third party candidate, or vote the "None of the Above" option if it were possible. :eek:

Don't you get it Box?

The GOP is controlled by lunatics!

This group of candidates is fighting to win over the right-wing base and in so doing is exposing what the base really stands for. The GOP tries to keep that hidden and it has been somewhat successful up until now.
 


Ahh, yes. The envious and the jealous covet, the improvident and undisciplined whine, and the economic illiterati proclaim the existence of free lunches and perpetual motion. The "have-nots" sell their votes to those who promise to steal from the "haves."


Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.


 
Reading this thread I am reminded yet again why I rarely come here any more. It used to be we in the AH could, with certain exceptions, discuss politics without the vituperative fury and hatred of the rest of the world.

No more. Now it's war to the knife and the knife to the hilt. You're either with us or against us. Victory no matter the cost.

Now I'll wander aways before I become collateral damage.

You havent been missed.
 
Let's see. I just went to Wal-mart yesterday and there is quite a bit of contraception available over the counter. You got your magnums and your trojans. A variety of spermicidal lube flavors included. You got pills aplenty. On military bases (federal government installations) you got almost as much variety, a whole shelf of rubbers. What brought about all this diversity and sustains it? The market, and competition.

So let's take all that variety and make the government pay for it, and guess what.. the variety will diminish as it becomes a budget item people fight over. The Midas touch is destructive.

While we're making contraceptives everybody's business (as it is still everybody's money we are spending) let's go ahead and set aside some money for another wonderful product that comes in a large variety and no one can do without: cough drops.:devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dFyaq-pYc

Buying rubbers has never been a problem; theyve been cheap for all the years I go back. I think they come in every SIS'S FIRST DATE kit.
 
Whose trends? The economy is getting better even if the Republicans have done everything they can to stop it. Sitting on your hands and shaking your head is not a policy but the republican party have been using it to hinder and not to help. People have seen it and they understand it and will vote to get rid of the problem.

Societal attitudes, demographic shifts, the proliferation of alternative media outlets and communication for starters. Obama and the Dems made their first mistake when they decided to implement socialized medicine instead of improving the economy. Their second mistake was pseudo-nationalizing GM and Chrysler to save union jobs instead of allowing market forces to reshape the companies into real profitability.

Both of these blunders plunged the US into such massive debt our great grandchildren will be paying on the accrued interest without touching the principal. Greece is a classic example of the consequences of a burgeoning welfare states overreach and subsequent collapse; necessary austerity measures to avoid financial collapse generating street riots as people used to government largess panic when it's taken from them.

A Socialist utopia where no one is ever hungry, thirsty, lacking medical care, unemployed, unhappy, etc. is an unattainable dream. The former Soviet Union is ample proof of that. Such a society is the eternal dream of the soft hearted, the soft headed, philosophers, ivory tower theorists and academics. It's a nice dream but never will happen. It may exist for a time, but it is unsustainable and ultimately collapses of its own weight. Trading personal freedom for perceived security and contentment always ends in discontent and failure.

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

Edmund Burke. (Original quote)


"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

George Santayana (Subsequent modified quote)
 
The military is the perfect socialist utopia, and military peasants are treated like shit. Theyre treated like shit cuz the people who provide for their needs always go after the lowest quality food, housing, medical care, etc. I well remember eating C rations canned during World War 2 and Korea.
 
People need to learn the difference between social and socialist. They ain't the same things. :rolleyes:

Oh and the republicans need to remember that starting two wars at once ain't exactly cheap and who is paying for that and for how long?

Compared to Iraq, the GM & Chrysler bailouts were cheap and if I'm not mistaken, those have both been repaid. How about The war, who is going to pay that back I ask again?

Facts are hard to dispute.
 


Ahh, yes. The envious and the jealous covet, the improvident and undisciplined whine, and the economic illiterati proclaim the existence of free lunches and perpetual motion. The "have-nots" sell their votes to those who promise to steal from the "haves."


Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.



Trying to be like JB, are you, Tri? Maybe you should just cut and paste him like you do everything else.
 
People need to learn the difference between social and socialist. They ain't the same things. :rolleyes:

Oh and the republicans need to remember that starting two wars at once ain't exactly cheap and who is paying for that and for how long?

Compared to Iraq, the GM & Chrysler bailouts were cheap and if I'm not mistaken, those have both been repaid. How about The war, who is going to pay that back I ask again?

Facts are hard to dispute.

Uh no. Detroit 'paid off' the loans and got fresh, new ones. When Owebama sold his GM stock he lost his ass....our ass, I mean.

As I recall, you Democrats let a great opportunity slip thru your fingers when you voted FOR the wars. But thats cuz you didnt wanna get tagged as assholes again.
 
Uh no. Detroit 'paid off' the loans and got fresh, new ones. When Owebama sold his GM stock he lost his ass....our ass, I mean.

As I recall, you Democrats let a great opportunity slip thru your fingers when you voted FOR the wars. But thats cuz you didnt wanna get tagged as assholes again.

Your ignorance is showing as usual. :rolleyes:
 
Let's see. I just went to Wal-mart yesterday and there is quite a bit of contraception available over the counter. You got your magnums and your trojans. A variety of spermicidal lube flavors included. You got pills aplenty. On military bases (federal government installations) you got almost as much variety, a whole shelf of rubbers. What brought about all this diversity and sustains it? The market, and competition.

So let's take all that variety and make the government pay for it, and guess what.. the variety will diminish as it becomes a budget item people fight over. The Midas touch is destructive.

While we're making contraceptives everybody's business (as it is still everybody's money we are spending) let's go ahead and set aside some money for another wonderful product that comes in a large variety and no one can do without: cough drops.:devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dFyaq-pYc
Weare not talking about condoms.
Or cough drops, as you know quite well.
We are talking about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlRC0nsjtKQ

and this:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=40300537&postcount=103
 
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Let's see. I just went to Wal-mart yesterday and there is quite a bit of contraception available over the counter. You got your magnums and your trojans. A variety of spermicidal lube flavors included. You got pills aplenty. On military bases (federal government installations) you got almost as much variety, a whole shelf of rubbers. What brought about all this diversity and sustains it? The market, and competition.

So let's take all that variety and make the government pay for it, and guess what.. the variety will diminish as it becomes a budget item people fight over. The Midas touch is destructive.

While we're making contraceptives everybody's business (as it is still everybody's money we are spending) let's go ahead and set aside some money for another wonderful product that comes in a large variety and no one can do without: cough drops.:devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dFyaq-pYc

I don't know where this idea that under Obamacare the government is going to pay for contraception comes from.

Oh wait. Yes I do...

Obamacare says nothing about the government paying for contraception. It says nothing about government making any health decisions for anyone, other than requiring that they be insured so we don't have to pay their hospital bills when they end up in the ER, which is how things are now. Right now, our tax money plays for healthcare for the uninsured in the form of increased local taxes and inflated costs for hospital treatment for those who can afford to pay.

Obamacare regulates the health insurance INDUSTRY, not direct healthcare. It mandates that Insurance providers provide contraception along with their other services. The cost of the contraception, like the cost of any other treatment or medicine insurance covers, is paid for by insurance premiums.

If Georgetown University doesn't want to pay for contraception in their student insurance, they don't have to. The mandate is that the insurance company offer it, paid for by premiums. Students and faculty can take advantage of it or not as their conscience allows. So I don't pay for Sandra Fluke's contraception. She does. Or Georgetown does. That's for them to work out among themselves.

To let Catholic employers dictate what they will and will not cover opens the door for the Jehovah's Witnesses to refuse to cover blood transfusions (they consider transfusions the same as eating blood, which is forbidden in the OT) or Christian Scientists to refuse ALL benefits since they don't believe in medicine at all. I have no doubt that we'd see plenty of other strange religions springing up under the benefices of the Insurance Industry with objections against one sort of treatment or another.
 
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Trying to be like JB, are you, Tri? Maybe you should just cut and paste him like you do everything else.

Hey Teach!!!

Don't worry about try. He's grown paranoid and cranky waiting for the world to wake up to the Great Global Warming Conspiracy.
 
Hmmm. I need to consider changing religions. I'm a Methodist, and we (along with some other denominations) wind up paying for everything no one else, including the government, wants to pick up the tab on. We've got 45 homeless guys living in our fellowship hall now that the GOP would like to pretend don't exist at all.
 
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